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Old March 21st, 2006, 07:21 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Due to recently discovering I'm reactive hypoglycemic, and on my way to
diabetes if I don't straighten up and fly right, I've now cut my carbs
way down. I'm not "doing" any one particular diet, but if there's one
that would be the closest it would be South Beach - high veg, mod
protein, mod good fat, lower bad fat, nothing white.

Breakfast is typically an egg or two, maybe Canadian bacon, with a big
pile of spinach or other veg
Lunch is usually salad with 3 or 4 oz of meat or fish or burger mixed
with leftover vegs
Dinner is usually some sort of protein (meat or fish), not huge
portions.
Snacks are nuts or almond/peanut butter on celery

Sometimes I'll throw in a few (1/4 cup or less) of beans into a meal
such as chickpeas or kidney beans since my workouts seem better with
them and my blood sugar stays pretty level with them (though not with
any other starchy carb). I treat them as "carbohydrate pills" .

I'm currently off dairy on the advice of a naturopath who may or may
not be a crackpot, the jury is still out on that one.

But I've got some questions:

1) My body temperature is all over the map. In the AM if I haven't
eaten it can be as low as 96, sometimes after I eat it goes up 2 or 3
degrees!
In the PM by the time I come home from work, hungry, it's often down to
the low 97's.

I was always a straight 98.6 girl before this so I don't know what's
going on.

Is this connected to my thyroid (pronounced to be ok by the doc on the
tests)? Am I not eating enough food and that's why the temp drops?
Does anyone else here experience the wildly fluctuating body temps?

2) Am I losing weight too fast? I started this 5 weeks ago at 260 lbs
(I'm 5'10", tall for a woman, and built like an ox even when I'm not
fat) and I'm down to 238 as of this AM.
That's 22 lbs in 5 weeks.

I'm not super hungry, and I'm afraid of eating too much at any one time
as it will send the blood sugar up even if it's all protein.
I'm drinking a ton of water too.

3) Am I exercising too much? I'm doing 40 minutes of either walking,
step aerobics, or stationary cycling 7 days a week, while lifting
weights M/W/F in the evenings. Even when I started I had good
endurance as I have a lot of muscle under the blubber (probably from
carrying myself around :lol: ) and could do the whole step tape right
from the start as long as I took the arms down or out.

4) I've read places that going low-carb for a long time changes your
body permanently so that you lose what carbohydrate tolerance you have
left because of the diet. Is this true?

5) Will my insulin resistance and hyperinsulinemia go away when I lose
more weight? I don't have PCOS.
I'll never go back to my previous habits, but would like to have a
small portion of a carby treat (forkful of birthday cake) sometime in
the future without it sending my body haywire. The concept of "never
again" is too depressing to keep on with.

Thanks, this group has been great to browse. RH seems to be something a
lot of people here have or had, it's unusual to see so many of us in
one spot.

LQ

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Old March 21st, 2006, 08:06 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Hi Susan :waving:: :lol: . Didn't realize that a lot of you guys are
over here too!

No, no T3 test yet. Hopefully when I go back in 2 months they'll do it,
I'm going to ask.
The TSH was fine, actually a little on the low side.
Because the temp isn't just sitting at 96 or 97 it makes me think it's
the diet, since it goes up if I eat and down if I don't.

I haven't tried pure protein alone for a bg rise test, but I did get a
small spike and drop from steak and a vegetable (I think it was
asparagus) the other night (128). Not a spike in the true sense of
most at ASD but one that I could feel when it went to 100 10 minutes
later. It could have been the asparagus but that stuff isn't that
carby, I didn't think.

I haven't given up the "girly weights" completely, but have added in
time on a real weight machine 3x a week to hit more groups and do more
weight. My arms do get tired (not just bored!) with the girly weights
given enough reps so I figure if they're burning the exercise is doing
*something* and if I'm watching TV I might as well do that rather than
just sitting there. I'll soon need to get a heavier set.

And I need to add ankle weights too for the leg stuff I do on the floor
in front of the TV. Right now I wear DH's heavy motorcycle boots since
I don't have anything else around to add weight around my feet :lol: .


I've still got the shakes, worst in the AM and in the middle of the
night. But the daytime ones aren't as bad, probably because I can
control it with diet while I'm awake. I've been trying to get the
night ones to stop with a handful of nuts at bedtime but it's not
working.

Thanks for the info and for all the help in the other group,
LQ
260/238/target 180

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Old March 21st, 2006, 09:14 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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I think that stuff is called "Glucerna" - my dentist (who says his doc
says he's a "borderline diabetic" with an A1C of 6.9 and a fasting
usually in the 130s ::sigh: drinks them and offered me one when I was
in there, shaking, 2 days after this started.
I declined since I didn't know what it would do to me. If it's got even
a little bit of carbs in it my body is likely to be able to pick them
out of the mix and react to it ::sigh::. Like you and the creamed
spinach.

The Atkins shakes look promising as a possible bedtime snack but right
now I'm trying to stay off the fake sweeteners too. My personal theory
is that insulin will react even to stuff that just tastes sweet, even
if it doesn't have carbs, and I don't need that right now. Chewing gum
makes me hungry, so does diet soda. So I've cut them all out ::sigh::.


I'm thinking of inventing, when I feel better, some sort of balanced,
tasty portable snack that works for me that I can have on hand as a
convenience. I'll call them "Gluco-Pucks" :lol: .

LQ

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Old March 21st, 2006, 09:36 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Susan wrote:
:: Nah. Call them almonds. Seriously. Always have them in my car.
:: They're about 40/30/30.

Almonds?


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Old March 21st, 2006, 10:32 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Susan wrote:
:: Nah. Call them almonds. Seriously. Always have them in my car.
:: They're about 40/30/30.

Almonds?


I think what she meant was that the OP said she would invent something and
Susan was saying that almonds already fit the bill: no need to invent
something.

Pat in TX




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Old March 21st, 2006, 10:34 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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The Atkins shakes look promising as a possible bedtime snack but right
now I'm trying to stay off the fake sweeteners too. My personal theory
is that insulin will react even to stuff that just tastes sweet, even
if it doesn't have carbs, and I don't need that right now. Chewing gum
makes me hungry, so does diet soda. So I've cut them all out ::sigh::.


I think you're wrong about the insulin reacting "even to stuff that just
tastes sweet", though. After all, we are talking about chemicals and
chemical reactions, not just "feelings" when it comes to insulin. My
insulin doesn't react to the Splenda at all. The Atkins shakes have much
less sweetener than the Glucerna stuff, IIRC.

Pat in TX


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Old March 21st, 2006, 11:36 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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wrote:

The Atkins shakes look promising as a possible bedtime snack but right
now I'm trying to stay off the fake sweeteners too. My personal theory
is that insulin will react even to stuff that just tastes sweet, even
if it doesn't have carbs, and I don't need that right now. Chewing gum
makes me hungry, so does diet soda. So I've cut them all out ::sigh::.


You can get bulk protein powder that is *just* protein powder, no
sweeteners, flavors, fillers, etc. - or exactly the ones you specify.
Basically, you don't have to buy some store's notion of what should be
in a protein powder, but can design your own. This site has milk,
whey, soy or egg protein powders... and you can add sweeteners or
flavors or buy them plain:
http://proteinfactory.com/store/

I don't have a problem with sweeteners, but find plain milk protein
powder more versatile... I can flavor it with a sugarless DaVinci
syrup, a lower-carb fruit (berries), cocoa, vanilla or almond extract,
or with a few TB of sugar-free pudding mix - and if it needs
sweetneing, I can add stevia, aspartame or splenda, as I desire.. Or I
can leave it unflavored and unsweetened and use it to make "pancakes"
or such or in other savoury type recipes. This is what I get:
http://proteinfactory.com/store/prod...products_id=50

They're located in NJ, I'm in PA and usually get my order the day after
I place it.

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Old March 22nd, 2006, 05:27 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Could you state, in 50 words or less, what it is that you want?

Jim


wrote:
Due to recently discovering I'm reactive hypoglycemic, and on my way to
diabetes if I don't straighten up and fly right, I've now cut my carbs
way down. I'm not "doing" any one particular diet, but if there's one
that would be the closest it would be South Beach - high veg, mod
protein, mod good fat, lower bad fat, nothing white.

Breakfast is typically an egg or two, maybe Canadian bacon, with a big
pile of spinach or other veg
Lunch is usually salad with 3 or 4 oz of meat or fish or burger mixed
with leftover vegs
Dinner is usually some sort of protein (meat or fish), not huge
portions.
Snacks are nuts or almond/peanut butter on celery

Sometimes I'll throw in a few (1/4 cup or less) of beans into a meal
such as chickpeas or kidney beans since my workouts seem better with
them and my blood sugar stays pretty level with them (though not with
any other starchy carb). I treat them as "carbohydrate pills" .

I'm currently off dairy on the advice of a naturopath who may or may
not be a crackpot, the jury is still out on that one.

But I've got some questions:

1) My body temperature is all over the map. In the AM if I haven't
eaten it can be as low as 96, sometimes after I eat it goes up 2 or 3
degrees!
In the PM by the time I come home from work, hungry, it's often down to
the low 97's.

I was always a straight 98.6 girl before this so I don't know what's
going on.

Is this connected to my thyroid (pronounced to be ok by the doc on the
tests)? Am I not eating enough food and that's why the temp drops?
Does anyone else here experience the wildly fluctuating body temps?

2) Am I losing weight too fast? I started this 5 weeks ago at 260 lbs
(I'm 5'10", tall for a woman, and built like an ox even when I'm not
fat) and I'm down to 238 as of this AM.
That's 22 lbs in 5 weeks.

I'm not super hungry, and I'm afraid of eating too much at any one time
as it will send the blood sugar up even if it's all protein.
I'm drinking a ton of water too.

3) Am I exercising too much? I'm doing 40 minutes of either walking,
step aerobics, or stationary cycling 7 days a week, while lifting
weights M/W/F in the evenings. Even when I started I had good
endurance as I have a lot of muscle under the blubber (probably from
carrying myself around :lol: ) and could do the whole step tape right
from the start as long as I took the arms down or out.

4) I've read places that going low-carb for a long time changes your
body permanently so that you lose what carbohydrate tolerance you have
left because of the diet. Is this true?

5) Will my insulin resistance and hyperinsulinemia go away when I lose
more weight? I don't have PCOS.
I'll never go back to my previous habits, but would like to have a
small portion of a carby treat (forkful of birthday cake) sometime in
the future without it sending my body haywire. The concept of "never
again" is too depressing to keep on with.

Thanks, this group has been great to browse. RH seems to be something a
lot of people here have or had, it's unusual to see so many of us in
one spot.

LQ



--
1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book
2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book
3) Don't Diet Without Supplemental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins
book
4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other)
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Old March 22nd, 2006, 02:21 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Pat in TX wrote:

I think you're wrong about the insulin reacting "even to stuff that just
tastes sweet", though. After all, we are talking about chemicals and
chemical reactions, not just "feelings" when it comes to insulin. My
insulin doesn't react to the Splenda at all. The Atkins shakes have much
less sweetener than the Glucerna stuff, IIRC.


But some folks do respond to AS with an insulin response, I stumbled
across one such study yesterday. I think it was 20% of this particular
small group tested, and they ate more later due to increased appetite,
too.

Susan


That's not what she said, however.

"The Atkins shakes look promising as a possible bedtime snack but right
now I'm trying to stay off the fake sweeteners too. My personal theory
is that insulin will react even to stuff that just tastes sweet, even
if it doesn't have carbs, and I don't need that right now. Chewing gum
makes me hungry, so does diet soda. So I've cut them all out ::sigh::."

The topic was "fake sweeteners" and her personal theory. An Atkins Advantage
shake has milk and soy in it and those have naturally occurring sugars.

Pat in TX


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Old March 22nd, 2006, 03:20 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Ok, for those without the patience or interest to read the whole thing,
this is the abridged version:

1) My body temperature swings wildly and seems to correlate with eating
(up when eating, down when not eating). Is this other peoples
experience?

2) I've lost 22 lbs in 5 weeks. Is that too fast?

3) I exercise 40 min/day 7 days a week, with 3x a week weight lifting.
Is that too much? Should I be taking a day off to let my body repair
itself?

4) Will low-carbing permanently alter my metabolism so that I will
never be able to modestly up the carbs in the future?

5) Will my insulin resistance go away in the future once I lose the
weight?

Is that short enough?

LQ

 




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