Low Carb (Paleo) Half Marathon Report

Ig, decent race for your first HM. You make many assumptions, including
that your glycogen reserves were empty or relatively empty. In fact, eating
ample protein can fill your glycogen stores.

If you're happy with your lifestyle that is fine. For many, perhaps most,
low-carb does not work very well for an active lifestyle. It seems you're
trying to show something in general from an experiment-of-one. You sound a
bit like an old friend of mine who's a vegan -- and far too religious about
it.

I was impressed reading about Stu Mittleman's accomplishments, and the fact
that he did many of them while eating controlled carb. So if you want to
learn the extremes *one* person has taken a dietary change to, then read his
book. That being said, it's not for everybody. What you're doing has been
tried before by many, with many different results.

- Tony

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:21:30 GMT, "Tony"
wrote:

Ig, decent race for your first HM. You make many assumptions, including
that your glycogen reserves were empty or relatively empty. In fact, eating
ample protein can fill your glycogen stores.

If you're happy with your lifestyle that is fine. For many, perhaps most,
low-carb does not work very well for an active lifestyle. It seems you're
trying to show something in general from an experiment-of-one. You sound a
bit like an old friend of mine who's a vegan -- and far too religious about
it.
i turned vegetarian a few months ago. i eat tons of carbs. and i
feel good too. it all comes down to what makes you feel
good and is healthy in the long term. i really doubt
if eating fatty north american meat is healthy. so i
stopped. but i don't care what anybody else eats.

and ignoramus, good run. keep it up.
....thehick

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:21:30 GMT, "Tony"
wrote:

Ig, decent race for your first HM. You make many assumptions, including
that your glycogen reserves were empty or relatively empty. In fact, eating
ample protein can fill your glycogen stores.

If you're happy with your lifestyle that is fine. For many, perhaps most,
low-carb does not work very well for an active lifestyle. It seems you're
trying to show something in general from an experiment-of-one. You sound a
bit like an old friend of mine who's a vegan -- and far too religious about
it.
i turned vegetarian a few months ago. i eat tons of carbs. and i
feel good too. it all comes down to what makes you feel
good and is healthy in the long term. i really doubt
if eating fatty north american meat is healthy. so i
stopped. but i don't care what anybody else eats.

and ignoramus, good run. keep it up.
....thehick

Well, they certainly prove possibility.

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Ignoramus12690 stated
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| Thanks, I just ordered his book, out of curiosity. I hope that it will
| be entertaining. No doubt, "experiments on one" are usually not proofs
| of general concepts applicable to others. And yet, they can point out
| to interesting results.
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Well, they certainly prove possibility.

In ,
Ignoramus12690 stated
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| Thanks, I just ordered his book, out of curiosity. I hope that it will
| be entertaining. No doubt, "experiments on one" are usually not proofs
| of general concepts applicable to others. And yet, they can point out
| to interesting results.
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| i

"Ignoramus12690" wrote in message
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In article _9I5d.16999$Wa7.4167@trndny06, Tony wrote:
Ig, decent race for your first HM.

Thank you.

You make many assumptions, including that your glycogen reserves
were empty or relatively empty. In fact, eating ample protein can
fill your glycogen stores.

That's interesting and makes sense to me. Is there any way to measure
glycogen reserves?


Pardon me, but could someone show me the pathway by which protein becomes
glycogen?

If you're happy with your lifestyle that is fine. For many, perhaps
most, low-carb does not work very well for an active lifestyle. It
seems you're trying to show something in general from an
experiment-of-one. You sound a bit like an old friend of mine who's
a vegan -- and far too religious about it.

I was impressed reading about Stu Mittleman's accomplishments, and
the fact that he did many of them while eating controlled carb. So
if you want to learn the extremes *one* person has taken a dietary
change to, then read his book. That being said, it's not for
everybody. What you're doing has been tried before by many, with
many different results.

Thanks, I just ordered his book, out of curiosity. I hope that it will
be entertaining. No doubt, "experiments on one" are usually not proofs
of general concepts applicable to others. And yet, they can point out
to interesting results.

i

Sam wrote in message .........
Pardon me, but could someone show me the pathway by which protein
becomes
glycogen?

Ok, I don't know this as fact. When I was experimenting with the Paleo diet
myself, I read in several places (probably in different paleo and low-carb
books) that when you eat excess protein beyond what the body needs, it will
be broken down into either carbohydrates or fats.

- Tony

In article ,
Sam wrote:
Pardon me, but could someone show me the pathway by which protein becomes
glycogen?

Can't glucose from gluconeogenesis be an input to to glycogenesis?

Andrew

Ignoramus16074 wrote in message ...
In article , Andrew Taylor wrote:
In article ,
Sam wrote:
Pardon me, but could someone show me the pathway by which protein
becomes
glycogen?

Can't glucose from gluconeogenesis be an input to to glycogenesis?

Andrew


I thought about these questions overnight and realized a simple thing.

It is easy to verify if I am out of glycogen. All I need to do is to
"carb up", without overeating calories too much, and drink water not
to be thirsty. If I suddenly gain a few pounds, these can be assumed
to be new glycogen reserves. So, if I carb up and gain pounds, then I
would know that I was out of glycogen before that.

Now, what we do know is that gaining a few pounds after carbing up is
typical for lowcarbers. Also it is typical to lose a few lbs upon
commencement of an LC diet. It is that "water loss from Atkins" that
is mentioned to disparage Atkins diet.

This makes me comfortably convinced that indeed, I was very low on
glycogen prior to the run.


Yes this is highly possible, but also you're not attempting to lose weight
on the diet. It makes sense to assume at least that your glycogen reserves
weren't full.