The atkins diet ....

Rob Chesebrough wrote:
|
| Low carb high protein diets deliver rapid temporary weight loss by
| starvation and dehydration. They deplete the body of its normal energy
| source (carbohydrates) and force kidneys to flush the systems, getting
| rid of the excess waste products of protein and fat (ketones). This
| action causes the quick weight drop but also flushes water, muscle
| mass and important nutrients as it attempts to rid the body of fat.
| It’s obviously an unhealthy state to put the body in and can't be
| maintained long term.
|
| Pat wrote:


ROFLMAO! If ignorance is bliss, he must be euphoric! My guess is that he
is fat and bitter; has no self-control so can't lose weight. Misery does so
love company, so he is beside himself with jealousy at the incredible
success of our way of eating!

--
Peter
270/215/180
Before/Current Pix:
http://users.thelink.net/marengo/wei...htlosspix.html

Rob Chesebrough wrote:
|
| Low carb high protein diets deliver rapid temporary weight loss by
| starvation and dehydration. They deplete the body of its normal energy
| source (carbohydrates) and force kidneys to flush the systems, getting
| rid of the excess waste products of protein and fat (ketones). This
| action causes the quick weight drop but also flushes water, muscle
| mass and important nutrients as it attempts to rid the body of fat.
| It’s obviously an unhealthy state to put the body in and can't be
| maintained long term.
|
| Pat wrote:


ROFLMAO! If ignorance is bliss, he must be euphoric! My guess is that he
is fat and bitter; has no self-control so can't lose weight. Misery does so
love company, so he is beside himself with jealousy at the incredible
success of our way of eating!

--
Peter
270/215/180
Before/Current Pix:
http://users.thelink.net/marengo/wei...htlosspix.html

Keep guessing. Try 5'8", 155 lbs, 10%BF and hitting 40 next May.

marengo wrote:
Rob Chesebrough wrote:
|
| Low carb high protein diets deliver rapid temporary weight loss by
| starvation and dehydration. They deplete the body of its normal energy
| source (carbohydrates) and force kidneys to flush the systems, getting
| rid of the excess waste products of protein and fat (ketones). This
| action causes the quick weight drop but also flushes water, muscle
| mass and important nutrients as it attempts to rid the body of fat.
| It’s obviously an unhealthy state to put the body in and can't be
| maintained long term.
|
| Pat wrote:


ROFLMAO! If ignorance is bliss, he must be euphoric! My guess is that he
is fat and bitter; has no self-control so can't lose weight. Misery does so
love company, so he is beside himself with jealousy at the incredible
success of our way of eating!

Keep guessing. Try 5'8", 155 lbs, 10%BF and hitting 40 next May.

marengo wrote:
Rob Chesebrough wrote:
|
| Low carb high protein diets deliver rapid temporary weight loss by
| starvation and dehydration. They deplete the body of its normal energy
| source (carbohydrates) and force kidneys to flush the systems, getting
| rid of the excess waste products of protein and fat (ketones). This
| action causes the quick weight drop but also flushes water, muscle
| mass and important nutrients as it attempts to rid the body of fat.
| It’s obviously an unhealthy state to put the body in and can't be
| maintained long term.
|
| Pat wrote:


ROFLMAO! If ignorance is bliss, he must be euphoric! My guess is that he
is fat and bitter; has no self-control so can't lose weight. Misery does so
love company, so he is beside himself with jealousy at the incredible
success of our way of eating!

How else would you explain the body being in Ketosis? Does the body do
this when it's fed normally? The point of the Induction Phase is limit
carbs to get the body into Ketosis, right? Type “ketosis” into a google
search, you’ll find your starvation proof. Ketosis is a body’s reaction
to starvation. Fueling itself with ketones because it’s in trouble.

Are you confusing ketoacidosis with ketosis? I've seen articles that call
the cannibalization of body tissue due to diabetes as ketosis. This is
ketoacidosis and is dangerous when you are a diabetic. Your body is not
getting enough energy from the food you are eating because it can not be
processed. Ketosis is different. It is the process that the body uses to
break down it's own body fat. This is totally natural and is how the body
uses it's own fat stores for energy. If there is an absence of
carbohydrates, then the body is forced to use the next most efficient fuel,
which is fat, and is called being in ketosis. If there is enough protein
ingested, the body will not have to derive it from it's stores of protein,
which is of course muscle tissue. Breaking down muscle tissue for energy is
inefficient and is only done as a last resort. The body will only break down
it's own tissue if there is a lack of protein in the diet. You can put your
body into a state of ketoacidosis by not eating enough food. It would then
be forced to take energy from fat and muscle tissue. Fat would of course be
used for energy and what ever other functions, like making hormones or bile.
Muscle tissue would be broken down for body repair and some for energy. You
can live on a diet devoid of carbohydrates. The Inuit people are proof of
that. But you must have protein and fat to survive. Again, ketoacidosis is
starvation mode either by lack of food, or that the body can't process the
food because of diabetes. Ketosis is the breaking down of the bodies own fat
stores to provide energy and is a totally natural process. How else would we
burn the fat off if not by ketosis. Even the traditional low calorie diets
will produce some ketosis, but it won't be able to be measured on the keto
sticks unless you eat to few calories, because your still burning some fat.
Eating lo-carb is still low calorie, but you are not hungry all the time
which is handy when your trying to lose weight.
Tom
210/178/180

How else would you explain the body being in Ketosis? Does the body do
this when it's fed normally? The point of the Induction Phase is limit
carbs to get the body into Ketosis, right? Type “ketosis” into a google
search, you’ll find your starvation proof. Ketosis is a body’s reaction
to starvation. Fueling itself with ketones because it’s in trouble.

Are you confusing ketoacidosis with ketosis? I've seen articles that call
the cannibalization of body tissue due to diabetes as ketosis. This is
ketoacidosis and is dangerous when you are a diabetic. Your body is not
getting enough energy from the food you are eating because it can not be
processed. Ketosis is different. It is the process that the body uses to
break down it's own body fat. This is totally natural and is how the body
uses it's own fat stores for energy. If there is an absence of
carbohydrates, then the body is forced to use the next most efficient fuel,
which is fat, and is called being in ketosis. If there is enough protein
ingested, the body will not have to derive it from it's stores of protein,
which is of course muscle tissue. Breaking down muscle tissue for energy is
inefficient and is only done as a last resort. The body will only break down
it's own tissue if there is a lack of protein in the diet. You can put your
body into a state of ketoacidosis by not eating enough food. It would then
be forced to take energy from fat and muscle tissue. Fat would of course be
used for energy and what ever other functions, like making hormones or bile.
Muscle tissue would be broken down for body repair and some for energy. You
can live on a diet devoid of carbohydrates. The Inuit people are proof of
that. But you must have protein and fat to survive. Again, ketoacidosis is
starvation mode either by lack of food, or that the body can't process the
food because of diabetes. Ketosis is the breaking down of the bodies own fat
stores to provide energy and is a totally natural process. How else would we
burn the fat off if not by ketosis. Even the traditional low calorie diets
will produce some ketosis, but it won't be able to be measured on the keto
sticks unless you eat to few calories, because your still burning some fat.
Eating lo-carb is still low calorie, but you are not hungry all the time
which is handy when your trying to lose weight.
Tom
210/178/180

Yes, apparently I combined the two. Ketones are the backup source of
energy for the body when glucose is not available. Once in the backup
mode you’re in a state of ketosis not ketoacidosis. The body is starved
for carbs, not food.

Now can you help me understand the purpose of putting the body in the
“back-up” mode for life? If it’s not going to be for life, why bother?

Why not limit caloric intake? Why not give the body water, lean protein
sources, complex carbohydrates and unsaturated fats? That’s what it
wants to function at its best so treat it right. Why instead of all
this would one put their body into its back-up mode of ketosis full time?

Why let food manufacturers put new buzz words (Low Carb) on their labels
to sell products loaded with calories but low in carbs? So people think
they’ll lose weight by eating?

I just don’t get it.

Rob
185/155/160


Tom wrote:

How else would you explain the body being in Ketosis? Does the body do
this when it's fed normally? The point of the Induction Phase is limit
carbs to get the body into Ketosis, right? Type “ketosis” into a google
search, you’ll find your starvation proof. Ketosis is a body’s reaction
to starvation. Fueling itself with ketones because it’s in trouble.


Are you confusing ketoacidosis with ketosis? I've seen articles that call
the cannibalization of body tissue due to diabetes as ketosis. This is
ketoacidosis and is dangerous when you are a diabetic. Your body is not
getting enough energy from the food you are eating because it can not be
processed. Ketosis is different. It is the process that the body uses to
break down it's own body fat. This is totally natural and is how the body
uses it's own fat stores for energy. If there is an absence of
carbohydrates, then the body is forced to use the next most efficient fuel,
which is fat, and is called being in ketosis. If there is enough protein
ingested, the body will not have to derive it from it's stores of protein,
which is of course muscle tissue. Breaking down muscle tissue for energy is
inefficient and is only done as a last resort. The body will only break down
it's own tissue if there is a lack of protein in the diet. You can put your
body into a state of ketoacidosis by not eating enough food. It would then
be forced to take energy from fat and muscle tissue. Fat would of course be
used for energy and what ever other functions, like making hormones or bile.
Muscle tissue would be broken down for body repair and some for energy. You
can live on a diet devoid of carbohydrates. The Inuit people are proof of
that. But you must have protein and fat to survive. Again, ketoacidosis is
starvation mode either by lack of food, or that the body can't process the
food because of diabetes. Ketosis is the breaking down of the bodies own fat
stores to provide energy and is a totally natural process. How else would we
burn the fat off if not by ketosis. Even the traditional low calorie diets
will produce some ketosis, but it won't be able to be measured on the keto
sticks unless you eat to few calories, because your still burning some fat.
Eating lo-carb is still low calorie, but you are not hungry all the time
which is handy when your trying to lose weight.
Tom
210/178/180

Yes, apparently I combined the two. Ketones are the backup source of
energy for the body when glucose is not available. Once in the backup
mode you’re in a state of ketosis not ketoacidosis. The body is starved
for carbs, not food.

Now can you help me understand the purpose of putting the body in the
“back-up” mode for life? If it’s not going to be for life, why bother?

Why not limit caloric intake? Why not give the body water, lean protein
sources, complex carbohydrates and unsaturated fats? That’s what it
wants to function at its best so treat it right. Why instead of all
this would one put their body into its back-up mode of ketosis full time?

Why let food manufacturers put new buzz words (Low Carb) on their labels
to sell products loaded with calories but low in carbs? So people think
they’ll lose weight by eating?

I just don’t get it.

Rob
185/155/160


Tom wrote:

How else would you explain the body being in Ketosis? Does the body do
this when it's fed normally? The point of the Induction Phase is limit
carbs to get the body into Ketosis, right? Type “ketosis” into a google
search, you’ll find your starvation proof. Ketosis is a body’s reaction
to starvation. Fueling itself with ketones because it’s in trouble.


Are you confusing ketoacidosis with ketosis? I've seen articles that call
the cannibalization of body tissue due to diabetes as ketosis. This is
ketoacidosis and is dangerous when you are a diabetic. Your body is not
getting enough energy from the food you are eating because it can not be
processed. Ketosis is different. It is the process that the body uses to
break down it's own body fat. This is totally natural and is how the body
uses it's own fat stores for energy. If there is an absence of
carbohydrates, then the body is forced to use the next most efficient fuel,
which is fat, and is called being in ketosis. If there is enough protein
ingested, the body will not have to derive it from it's stores of protein,
which is of course muscle tissue. Breaking down muscle tissue for energy is
inefficient and is only done as a last resort. The body will only break down
it's own tissue if there is a lack of protein in the diet. You can put your
body into a state of ketoacidosis by not eating enough food. It would then
be forced to take energy from fat and muscle tissue. Fat would of course be
used for energy and what ever other functions, like making hormones or bile.
Muscle tissue would be broken down for body repair and some for energy. You
can live on a diet devoid of carbohydrates. The Inuit people are proof of
that. But you must have protein and fat to survive. Again, ketoacidosis is
starvation mode either by lack of food, or that the body can't process the
food because of diabetes. Ketosis is the breaking down of the bodies own fat
stores to provide energy and is a totally natural process. How else would we
burn the fat off if not by ketosis. Even the traditional low calorie diets
will produce some ketosis, but it won't be able to be measured on the keto
sticks unless you eat to few calories, because your still burning some fat.
Eating lo-carb is still low calorie, but you are not hungry all the time
which is handy when your trying to lose weight.
Tom
210/178/180

Have you read the FAQ?

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW


"Rob Chesebrough" wrote in message
...
Yes, apparently I combined the two. Ketones are the backup source of
energy for the body when glucose is not available. Once in the backup
mode you’re in a state of ketosis not ketoacidosis. The body is starved
for carbs, not food.

Now can you help me understand the purpose of putting the body in the
“back-up” mode for life? If it’s not going to be for life, why bother?

Why not limit caloric intake? Why not give the body water, lean protein
sources, complex carbohydrates and unsaturated fats? That’s what it
wants to function at its best so treat it right. Why instead of all
this would one put their body into its back-up mode of ketosis full time?

Why let food manufacturers put new buzz words (Low Carb) on their labels
to sell products loaded with calories but low in carbs? So people think
they’ll lose weight by eating?

I just don’t get it.

Rob
185/155/160


Tom wrote:

How else would you explain the body being in Ketosis? Does the body do
this when it's fed normally? The point of the Induction Phase is limit
carbs to get the body into Ketosis, right? Type “ketosis” into a google
search, you’ll find your starvation proof. Ketosis is a body’s reaction
to starvation. Fueling itself with ketones because it’s in trouble.


Are you confusing ketoacidosis with ketosis? I've seen articles that
call
the cannibalization of body tissue due to diabetes as ketosis. This is
ketoacidosis and is dangerous when you are a diabetic. Your body is not
getting enough energy from the food you are eating because it can not be
processed. Ketosis is different. It is the process that the body uses to
break down it's own body fat. This is totally natural and is how the
body
uses it's own fat stores for energy. If there is an absence of
carbohydrates, then the body is forced to use the next most efficient
fuel,
which is fat, and is called being in ketosis. If there is enough protein
ingested, the body will not have to derive it from it's stores of
protein,
which is of course muscle tissue. Breaking down muscle tissue for energy
is
inefficient and is only done as a last resort. The body will only break
down
it's own tissue if there is a lack of protein in the diet. You can put
your
body into a state of ketoacidosis by not eating enough food. It would
then
be forced to take energy from fat and muscle tissue. Fat would of course
be
used for energy and what ever other functions, like making hormones or
bile.
Muscle tissue would be broken down for body repair and some for energy.
You
can live on a diet devoid of carbohydrates. The Inuit people are proof
of
that. But you must have protein and fat to survive. Again, ketoacidosis
is
starvation mode either by lack of food, or that the body can't process
the
food because of diabetes. Ketosis is the breaking down of the bodies own
fat
stores to provide energy and is a totally natural process. How else
would we
burn the fat off if not by ketosis. Even the traditional low calorie
diets
will produce some ketosis, but it won't be able to be measured on the
keto
sticks unless you eat to few calories, because your still burning some
fat.
Eating lo-carb is still low calorie, but you are not hungry all the time
which is handy when your trying to lose weight.
Tom
210/178/180

Have you read the FAQ?

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW


"Rob Chesebrough" wrote in message
...
Yes, apparently I combined the two. Ketones are the backup source of
energy for the body when glucose is not available. Once in the backup
mode you’re in a state of ketosis not ketoacidosis. The body is starved
for carbs, not food.

Now can you help me understand the purpose of putting the body in the
“back-up” mode for life? If it’s not going to be for life, why bother?

Why not limit caloric intake? Why not give the body water, lean protein
sources, complex carbohydrates and unsaturated fats? That’s what it
wants to function at its best so treat it right. Why instead of all
this would one put their body into its back-up mode of ketosis full time?

Why let food manufacturers put new buzz words (Low Carb) on their labels
to sell products loaded with calories but low in carbs? So people think
they’ll lose weight by eating?

I just don’t get it.

Rob
185/155/160


Tom wrote:

How else would you explain the body being in Ketosis? Does the body do
this when it's fed normally? The point of the Induction Phase is limit
carbs to get the body into Ketosis, right? Type “ketosis” into a google
search, you’ll find your starvation proof. Ketosis is a body’s reaction
to starvation. Fueling itself with ketones because it’s in trouble.


Are you confusing ketoacidosis with ketosis? I've seen articles that
call
the cannibalization of body tissue due to diabetes as ketosis. This is
ketoacidosis and is dangerous when you are a diabetic. Your body is not
getting enough energy from the food you are eating because it can not be
processed. Ketosis is different. It is the process that the body uses to
break down it's own body fat. This is totally natural and is how the
body
uses it's own fat stores for energy. If there is an absence of
carbohydrates, then the body is forced to use the next most efficient
fuel,
which is fat, and is called being in ketosis. If there is enough protein
ingested, the body will not have to derive it from it's stores of
protein,
which is of course muscle tissue. Breaking down muscle tissue for energy
is
inefficient and is only done as a last resort. The body will only break
down
it's own tissue if there is a lack of protein in the diet. You can put
your
body into a state of ketoacidosis by not eating enough food. It would
then
be forced to take energy from fat and muscle tissue. Fat would of course
be
used for energy and what ever other functions, like making hormones or
bile.
Muscle tissue would be broken down for body repair and some for energy.
You
can live on a diet devoid of carbohydrates. The Inuit people are proof
of
that. But you must have protein and fat to survive. Again, ketoacidosis
is
starvation mode either by lack of food, or that the body can't process
the
food because of diabetes. Ketosis is the breaking down of the bodies own
fat
stores to provide energy and is a totally natural process. How else
would we
burn the fat off if not by ketosis. Even the traditional low calorie
diets
will produce some ketosis, but it won't be able to be measured on the
keto
sticks unless you eat to few calories, because your still burning some
fat.
Eating lo-carb is still low calorie, but you are not hungry all the time
which is handy when your trying to lose weight.
Tom
210/178/180