"Carb Solutions" Bars and "Net Carbs"

"Jenny" wrote in message
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Is there glycerine/glycerol in these bars?

Yes.

It will not be listed as a sugar alcohol. It will be included in the carb
count, and it does raise the blood
sugar of many people with diabetes--especially if you are on a low carb
diet
because the liver processes glycerine differently depending on whether it
is
full of glycogen or not.

So how can the manufacturer legitimately deduct grams of glycerine from the
total carb count to arrive at "net carbs"?

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-My Real Name

"Ignoramus32082" wrote in message
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why in the hell are you lecturing him on SA when the product he is
interested doesn't even have them? get a friggin clue

you get a clue, I was responding to his own comments about sugar
alcohols. I did not bring them up, he did.

Actually the context I brought them up in was to say that this product does
not contain them.

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-My Real Name

"Lexin" wrote:
I'm posting from Google, so someone may have already raised this, but
isn't the point that while sucralose isn't a sugar alchohol, it may be
listed in the ingredients as a carb, because carbs listed on
nutritional information aren't a food group per se (like protein and
fat) but are 'everything else'?

"Mr. N" wrote:
No.

Why not?

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Lexin

On 1/14/2004 11:09 PM, Ignoramus32082 wrote:
In article m, Mr. N wrote:

"Ignoramus32082" wrote in message
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why in the hell are you lecturing him on SA when the product he is
interested doesn't even have them? get a friggin clue

you get a clue, I was responding to his own comments about sugar
alcohols. I did not bring them up, he did.

Actually the context I brought them up in was to say that this product does
not contain them.



You said:


I understand that the concept of "net carbs" is at least somewhat
dubious, but generally accepted to mean the number of "impact"
carbs, i.e. Total Carbs - Fiber - Sugar alcohols = "net/impact
carbs".


It was a statement to which I replied. You did not just mention that
those candy bars did not contain sugar alcohol, you stated a formula
involving SA's that I was compelled to correct.

i

The OP also said "NO sugar alcohols" in the original post.

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jmk in NC

On 1/14/2004 9:46 PM, Mr. N wrote:

So how can the manufacturer legitimately deduct grams of glycerine from the
total carb count to arrive at "net carbs"?

According to the FDA, they cannot. I mean, the FDA has said that
glycerine is a carbohydrate and should be counted. In fact, I think
that they have sent warning letters to manufacturers that are not
listing it as such.

--
jmk in NC

carbs listed on
nutritional information aren't a food group per se (like protein and
fat) but are 'everything else'?

"Mr. N" wrote:
No.

Why not?

You are right Lexin, carbs are all the calories left over after the fat and
protein calories are taken out:

"According to Jack M. Goldberg, Ph.D., and Dr. Karen O'Mara....... The
discrepancy can be attributed to the method by which the government requires
manufacturers to measure carbohydrates. The "difference" method means
manufacturers measure all the different components of a food and anything
left is counted as carbohydrates."
http://members.tripod.com/~himolocar...ocarb_diet.htm

Jenny -- thanks for all the info on blood sugar and sugar alchols.
Your website is very helpful. I've noticed eating the Atkins chocolate
bars with malitol that I still get a "sugar rush" -- if not as
pronounced -- and seem to retain some water, so I think my body is
still recognizing the stuff as carbs.

-rebeq

"Lexin" wrote in message
om...

I'm posting from Google, so someone may have already raised this, but
isn't the point that while sucralose isn't a sugar alchohol, it may be
listed in the ingredients as a carb, because carbs listed on
nutritional information aren't a food group per se (like protein and
fat) but are 'everything else'?

"Mr. N" wrote:
No.

Why not?

It simply isn't true that 'carbohydrates' on food labels represent
everything that is neither a protein or fat.

"Carbohydrates" specifically address compounds that provide energy (i.e.
calories). The idea that "carbs = everything else" is a myth that the
rising number of "low-carb" food manufacturers want you to swallow so that
they can claim a lower level of "net carbs" in order to get you to buy their
products.

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-My Real Name

"jmk" wrote in message
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So how can the manufacturer legitimately deduct grams of glycerine from
the
total carb count to arrive at "net carbs"?

According to the FDA, they cannot. I mean, the FDA has said that
glycerine is a carbohydrate and should be counted. In fact, I think
that they have sent warning letters to manufacturers that are not
listing it as such.

This might explain the runaround I got when I called Richardson Labs, whom
I've since discovered is also the (former) manufacturer of Metab-o-Lite, a
Metabolife knockoff high in ephedra.

It looks like this company has (since my call) removed all information about
the Carb Solutions product from it's web site at www.carbsolutions.com and
will soon be marketing a product marketed as having "0 Sugar Carbs",
whatever that means.

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-My Real Name

"Rebeq" wrote in message
om...

Jenny -- thanks for all the info on blood sugar and sugar alchols.
Your website is very helpful. I've noticed eating the Atkins chocolate
bars with malitol that I still get a "sugar rush" -- if not as
pronounced -- and seem to retain some water, so I think my body is
still recognizing the stuff as carbs.

My experience with Maltitol and other sugar alcohols has NOT been good.
Even a small amount causes me painful (and noisy) gas attacks. My sense is
that Maltitol will be gradually replaced by sucralose as the sweetener of
choice as the price of Splenda comes down.

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-My Real Name