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Old April 19th, 2010, 10:53 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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I almost felt asleep in the bus within an hour after having a smoothie
made of banana and strawberries. Coincidence or is it my insuline? We
are bombarbed in the media with the "Fruits are great for you""
messages. If they are, then why are they killing me like this?
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Old April 20th, 2010, 12:00 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Apr 19, 5:56*pm, Alfred Matej wrote:
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:53:04 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
I almost felt asleep in the bus within an hour after having a smoothie
made of banana and strawberries. Coincidence or is it my insuline? We
are bombarbed in the media with the "Fruits are great for you""
messages. If they are, then why are they killing me like this?


I'd guess it was insulin. How big was the smoothie?


I had a large one because I love the taste. About 2 1/2 cups.
Tonight I'm back to "safety" with tuna and green beans. I don't want
to gain back the water.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 12:47 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Apr 19, 5:56*pm, Alfred Matej wrote:
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:53:04 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
I almost felt asleep in the bus within an hour after having a smoothie
made of banana and strawberries. Coincidence or is it my insuline? We
are bombarbed in the media with the "Fruits are great for you""
messages. If they are, then why are they killing me like this?


I'd guess it was insulin. How big was the smoothie?


I had a large one because I love the taste. About 2 1/2 cups.
Tonight I'm back to "safety" with tuna and green beans. I don't want
to gain back the water.


Hmmm...2 1/2 cups of smoothie has got to be c. 75 grams of carb,
depending on ingredients. One banana alone is 30 grams of carb. If
there's OJ in your smoothie, there's another 30 grams (assuming 8 oz of
juice). Strawberries and plain yoghurt are relatively low-carb, but they
still add some. Finally, if you bought the smoothy somewhere, I'd be
shocked if there weren't some sugar or honey in it.

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Old April 20th, 2010, 01:03 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Apr 19, 7:47*pm, Alice Faber wrote:
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" wrote:
On Apr 19, 5:56*pm, Alfred Matej wrote:
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:53:04 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
I almost felt asleep in the bus within an hour after having a smoothie
made of banana and strawberries. Coincidence or is it my insuline? We
are bombarbed in the media with the "Fruits are great for you""
messages. If they are, then why are they killing me like this?


I'd guess it was insulin. How big was the smoothie?


I had a large one because I love the taste. *About 2 1/2 cups.
Tonight I'm back to "safety" with tuna and green beans. I don't want
to gain back the water.


Hmmm...2 1/2 cups of smoothie has got to be c. 75 grams of carb,
depending on ingredients. One banana alone is 30 grams of carb. If
there's OJ in your smoothie, there's another 30 grams (assuming 8 oz of
juice). Strawberries and plain yoghurt are relatively low-carb, but they
still add some. Finally, if you bought the smoothy somewhere, I'd be
shocked if there weren't some sugar or honey in it.

No yogurt or juice. Just one or two bananas and strawberries. I
demanded that there be absolutely no sugar added.

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Old April 20th, 2010, 01:13 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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" wrote:

I almost felt asleep in the bus within an hour after having a smoothie
made of banana and strawberries. Coincidence or is it my insuline? We
are bombarbed in the media with the "Fruits are great for you""
messages. If they are, then why are they killing me like this?


No causality shown. Don't go weird on us.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 02:19 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Apr 19, 8:13*pm, Billy wrote:
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" wrote:
I almost felt asleep in the bus within an hour after having a smoothie
made of banana and strawberries. Coincidence or is it my insuline? We
are bombarbed in the media with the "Fruits are great for you""
messages. If they are, then why are they killing me like this?


No causality shown. Don't go weird on us.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 02:22 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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In article
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" wrote:

On Apr 19, 7:47*pm, Alice Faber wrote:
In article
,

" wrote:
On Apr 19, 5:56*pm, Alfred Matej wrote:
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:53:04 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
I almost felt asleep in the bus within an hour after having a
smoothie
made of banana and strawberries. Coincidence or is it my insuline? We
are bombarbed in the media with the "Fruits are great for you""
messages. If they are, then why are they killing me like this?


I'd guess it was insulin. How big was the smoothie?


I had a large one because I love the taste. *About 2 1/2 cups.
Tonight I'm back to "safety" with tuna and green beans. I don't want
to gain back the water.


Hmmm...2 1/2 cups of smoothie has got to be c. 75 grams of carb,
depending on ingredients. One banana alone is 30 grams of carb. If
there's OJ in your smoothie, there's another 30 grams (assuming 8 oz of
juice). Strawberries and plain yoghurt are relatively low-carb, but they
still add some. Finally, if you bought the smoothy somewhere, I'd be
shocked if there weren't some sugar or honey in it.

No yogurt or juice. Just one or two bananas and strawberries. I
demanded that there be absolutely no sugar added.


Bananas have, on average, 30 grams of carbohydrate, each (assuming
they're not too large!). Most smoothie recipes that I've seen have
*some* liquid added, either milk or fruit juice; those are equivalent in
terms of carb content (though not in taste, obviously).

--
"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
This, apparently, upsets the fools."
---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest
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Old April 20th, 2010, 05:18 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default "Fruits are great for you!". Really?

wrote:

I almost felt asleep in the bus within an hour after having a smoothie
made of banana and strawberries. Coincidence or is it my insuline? We
are bombarbed in the media with the "Fruits are great for you""
messages. If they are, then why are they killing me like this?


The idea that a smoothie is equivalent to the fruit is false. Even if
you make the smoothie yourself the blender separates the sugar from the
fiber to make it higher glycemic load. If you didn't make it yourself
even watching how it was made you're likely to miss high carb added
ingredients.

The idea that fruits are good is fine for someone who's never gotten fat
in the first place. It's a load of nonsense for those of us have gotten
fat. What's a fruit? It's a vegitable that grew a fancy outfit and
added sugar to itself. Given the choice between some vegitable and some
fruit there's rarely any up side to picking the fruit over the vegitable.

That said some fruit are a lot lower carb than others. Cucumber is a
fruit but it's so low in carbs few ever consider it a fruit and it's on
the salad veggie list. Tomatoes are low enough folks like to add them
in the early weeks. Strawberries are low enough that they are early on
the lists of fruit.

Other fruits are a lot higher carb than others. Bananas, pineapples and
dates are filled with sugar. I think it was the Greek philosopher
Anaximander who said "If the gods had not made honey we would think figs
the sweeter".

Fruits are great for folks who think french fries count against their
daily 5 servings of veggies. Have you even seen what a serving is? The
salads I often have with dinner are tiny but they count as 2 servings!
I come closer to 10 servings of veggies per day than to 5 when I take
into account the tiny size of a serving. To think that some folks eat a
medium serving of fries at Burger King and count it as their 5 servings
for the day, no matter even something as bad as a banana is supposed to
be beneficial. But it isn't compared to real food. Bananas are candy
without being called that.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 11:31 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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In article ,
Alice Faber wrote:

In article
,
" wrote:

On Apr 19, 5:56*pm, Alfred Matej wrote:
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:53:04 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
I almost felt asleep in the bus within an hour after having a smoothie
made of banana and strawberries. Coincidence or is it my insuline? We
are bombarbed in the media with the "Fruits are great for you""
messages. If they are, then why are they killing me like this?

I'd guess it was insulin. How big was the smoothie?


I had a large one because I love the taste. About 2 1/2 cups.
Tonight I'm back to "safety" with tuna and green beans. I don't want
to gain back the water.


Hmmm...2 1/2 cups of smoothie has got to be c. 75 grams of carb,
depending on ingredients. One banana alone is 30 grams of carb. If
there's OJ in your smoothie, there's another 30 grams (assuming 8 oz of
juice). Strawberries and plain yoghurt are relatively low-carb, but they
still add some. Finally, if you bought the smoothy somewhere, I'd be
shocked if there weren't some sugar or honey in it.


If it was from a health food place probably agave nectar.

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Old April 20th, 2010, 11:33 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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In article ,
Alice Faber wrote:

In article
,
" wrote:

On Apr 19, 7:47*pm, Alice Faber wrote:
In article
,

" wrote:
On Apr 19, 5:56*pm, Alfred Matej wrote:
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:53:04 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
I almost felt asleep in the bus within an hour after having a
smoothie
made of banana and strawberries. Coincidence or is it my insuline?
We
are bombarbed in the media with the "Fruits are great for you""
messages. If they are, then why are they killing me like this?

I'd guess it was insulin. How big was the smoothie?

I had a large one because I love the taste. *About 2 1/2 cups.
Tonight I'm back to "safety" with tuna and green beans. I don't want
to gain back the water.

Hmmm...2 1/2 cups of smoothie has got to be c. 75 grams of carb,
depending on ingredients. One banana alone is 30 grams of carb. If
there's OJ in your smoothie, there's another 30 grams (assuming 8 oz of
juice). Strawberries and plain yoghurt are relatively low-carb, but they
still add some. Finally, if you bought the smoothy somewhere, I'd be
shocked if there weren't some sugar or honey in it.

No yogurt or juice. Just one or two bananas and strawberries. I
demanded that there be absolutely no sugar added.


Bananas have, on average, 30 grams of carbohydrate, each (assuming
they're not too large!). Most smoothie recipes that I've seen have
*some* liquid added, either milk or fruit juice; those are equivalent in
terms of carb content (though not in taste, obviously).


Perhaps, they added high fructose corn syrup instead, technically that's
not sugar.

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