The new goal has been set

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:55:23 -0400, Beverly wrote:

Would some type of elastic knee brace help keep the kneecap in a better
position? I tried running a few years ago and used one when my knee started
giving me problems. It certainly helped to alleviate the nagging pain and
kept my knee warm in the cold weather, toog

I have used things like that in the past, but without the training they
didn't do much for me. I really need that muscle to be stronger first, if
that's not enough, a brace is certainly an option.

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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:18:22 +0000, Ignoramus29728 wrote:

At least be careful and listen to your body... Running with acute knee
pain is not recommended...

Hehe, I know. Thankfully, I'm generally quite well in tune with my body
and know my limits very well. Mainly learned through bad experience, so I
definitely know where I do *not* want this to go

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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:18:22 +0000, Ignoramus29728 wrote:

At least be careful and listen to your body... Running with acute knee
pain is not recommended...

Hehe, I know. Thankfully, I'm generally quite well in tune with my body
and know my limits very well. Mainly learned through bad experience, so I
definitely know where I do *not* want this to go

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"Boemsi" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 19:37:46 +0000, Ignoramus22762 wrote:

my suggestion is to not run if you experience knee pain. At least
without approval from some relevant doctor. I doubt you want to have
artificial knees.

At the moment I don't have pain and haven't had for years. As I just
described in my answer to Jenn, my kneecap is drawn to the outside of my
joint, and under duration stress will wear out the cartilage. In the past
I've had very good results with training the muscles on the upper/inner
sides of my thighs to correct for this.

Also, taking glucosamine helps with osteoarthritis (deterioraion of
the cartilage in knee joints).

I'll keep that in mind, but I'd rather not take anything. If it turns out
the running will not work for me, I'll stick to the swimming and biking.

I would not run together with people who are much better runners than
me.

I know my friend is a good runner, but another friend will join us too and
for her I have no clue. For the most part we'll have to train by ourselves
anyway, as our working schedules do not allow us to meet daily.

Thanks for the tips!

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Don't avoid running with experienced or faster runners if they're willing to
work at your pace. You'll find that they'll be able to help you learn more
about breathing/cadence, etc. and I've found that I end up trying a little
harder. I also am not too embarassed to say "hey this is too fast for me"
and pull back. I'm doing it for *me* not to show off in front of others.

Jenn

"Boemsi" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 19:37:46 +0000, Ignoramus22762 wrote:

my suggestion is to not run if you experience knee pain. At least
without approval from some relevant doctor. I doubt you want to have
artificial knees.

At the moment I don't have pain and haven't had for years. As I just
described in my answer to Jenn, my kneecap is drawn to the outside of my
joint, and under duration stress will wear out the cartilage. In the past
I've had very good results with training the muscles on the upper/inner
sides of my thighs to correct for this.

Also, taking glucosamine helps with osteoarthritis (deterioraion of
the cartilage in knee joints).

I'll keep that in mind, but I'd rather not take anything. If it turns out
the running will not work for me, I'll stick to the swimming and biking.

I would not run together with people who are much better runners than
me.

I know my friend is a good runner, but another friend will join us too and
for her I have no clue. For the most part we'll have to train by ourselves
anyway, as our working schedules do not allow us to meet daily.

Thanks for the tips!

--
-- Boemsi
207 - 193 - 180

Don't avoid running with experienced or faster runners if they're willing to
work at your pace. You'll find that they'll be able to help you learn more
about breathing/cadence, etc. and I've found that I end up trying a little
harder. I also am not too embarassed to say "hey this is too fast for me"
and pull back. I'm doing it for *me* not to show off in front of others.

Jenn

"Boemsi" wrote in message
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Thanks for the excellent tips Jenn! That sounds like a schedule I can
stick to. I've been working on my knees. The problem is that my kneecap is
drawn to the outside, because the thigh muscles on that side are stronger.
I've been training the opposite muscles for a few weeks now, and
definitely start to notice an improvement. I also have a fully equipped
athletics center across the street from my job, with indoor and outdoor
track (oooh, the luxury!).


You're lucky Our indoor track has crappy hours because it's at the high
school. Anyway, think about the running shoe thing, it made a HUGE
difference in the way my legs felt by getting a decent pair of motion
control shoes. I spent about $100 for a pair which is steep for most
people, but since they made running so much easier, I ended up putting a LOT
of miles on them. They've now been retired to become my "screw" shoes for
ice running - which I will take up this winter if I can start running again
by Oct.

Jenn

"Boemsi" wrote in message
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Thanks for the excellent tips Jenn! That sounds like a schedule I can
stick to. I've been working on my knees. The problem is that my kneecap is
drawn to the outside, because the thigh muscles on that side are stronger.
I've been training the opposite muscles for a few weeks now, and
definitely start to notice an improvement. I also have a fully equipped
athletics center across the street from my job, with indoor and outdoor
track (oooh, the luxury!).


You're lucky Our indoor track has crappy hours because it's at the high
school. Anyway, think about the running shoe thing, it made a HUGE
difference in the way my legs felt by getting a decent pair of motion
control shoes. I spent about $100 for a pair which is steep for most
people, but since they made running so much easier, I ended up putting a LOT
of miles on them. They've now been retired to become my "screw" shoes for
ice running - which I will take up this winter if I can start running again
by Oct.

Jenn

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:58:31 -0500, JMA wrote:

Anyway, think about the running shoe thing, it made a HUGE
difference in the way my legs felt by getting a decent pair of motion
control shoes.

I'll definitely keep that in mind. I have a decent pair of running shoes
at the moment, at least, I think I do. That's why I bought them last year.
Never got around to actually using them for the purpose until now

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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:58:31 -0500, JMA wrote:

Anyway, think about the running shoe thing, it made a HUGE
difference in the way my legs felt by getting a decent pair of motion
control shoes.

I'll definitely keep that in mind. I have a decent pair of running shoes
at the moment, at least, I think I do. That's why I bought them last year.
Never got around to actually using them for the purpose until now

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-- Boemsi
207 - 193 - 180

"Boemsi" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 19:37:46 +0000, Ignoramus22762 wrote:

my suggestion is to not run if you experience knee pain. At least
without approval from some relevant doctor. I doubt you want to have
artificial knees.

At the moment I don't have pain and haven't had for years. As I just
described in my answer to Jenn, my kneecap is drawn to the outside of my
joint, and under duration stress will wear out the cartilage. In the past
I've had very good results with training the muscles on the upper/inner
sides of my thighs to correct for this.

Also, taking glucosamine helps with osteoarthritis (deterioraion of
the cartilage in knee joints).

I'll keep that in mind, but I'd rather not take anything. If it turns out
the running will not work for me, I'll stick to the swimming and biking.

I would not run together with people who are much better runners than
me.

I know my friend is a good runner, but another friend will join us too and
for her I have no clue. For the most part we'll have to train by ourselves
anyway, as our working schedules do not allow us to meet daily.

Thanks for the tips!


First off, that's nonsense. If I work out with others, I always try to make
sure they're better than me, it helps me do better. Of course, if one is
worried about their ego, then that's another story.

Secondly, start out is very small dosages. Warm up with a brisk walk for 10
minutes, then run two blocks, walk two blocks, run two block, walk two
blocks, repeat for 20 minutes or do. Do this for at least two months. Do not
rush running.

Also, check out www.runnersworld.com They'll give you great advice.

Martha
a former distance runner