Hunger sucks

Crafting Mom wrote:
|| Roger Zoul wrote:
||
||| MU wrote:
||||| On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 19:57:00 -0300, Crafting Mom wrote:
|||||
|||||| Starvation sucks, but hunger, the true signal that it is time to
|||||| eat, is a good thing.
|||||
||||| Hunger is not the true sign that it is time to eat as very often
||||| we are hungry with no need whatsoever to eat.
|||
||| Very true.
||
|| I think people are missing what I said. REAL hunger is indeed a
|| true sign that it's about time to eat. PERCEIVED hunger is not.
|| Allowing one's stomach to be *technically empty* and noting the
|| feeling thereof is the technical hunger I am talking about.
|| Learning the difference between that and the so-called "hunger" that
|| most people think of when the word is mentioned is necessary. The
|| hunger I mention is the one with the empty stomach. It does indeed
|| feel *distinctly* different from other types of "hunger".

Which part do you think is being missed?

FOB wrote:

Do you ever talk or write about Santa Claus? Or the Easter Bunny?

no, i don't.

Roger Zoul wrote:

Crafting Mom wrote:
|| Roger Zoul wrote:
||
||| MU wrote:
||||| On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 19:57:00 -0300, Crafting Mom wrote:
|||||
|||||| Starvation sucks, but hunger, the true signal that it is time to
|||||| eat, is a good thing.
|||||
||||| Hunger is not the true sign that it is time to eat as very often
||||| we are hungry with no need whatsoever to eat.
|||
||| Very true.
||
|| I think people are missing what I said. REAL hunger is indeed a
|| true sign that it's about time to eat. PERCEIVED hunger is not.
|| Allowing one's stomach to be *technically empty* and noting the
|| feeling thereof is the technical hunger I am talking about.
|| Learning the difference between that and the so-called "hunger" that
|| most people think of when the word is mentioned is necessary. The
|| hunger I mention is the one with the empty stomach. It does indeed
|| feel *distinctly* different from other types of "hunger".

Which part do you think is being missed?

Well, what I said above, for one thing, but I'll repeat it here...

I thought people were misdefining what I meant by "hunger". When I said,
"hunger, as the true signal it's time to eat", I meant just that. I don't
know very many people who are truly HUNGRY with "no need whatsoever to
eat". That, to me, defines a craving, which is distinctly different than
real empty-stomach hunger. Mu is free to disagree with me (not that anyone
needs my permission), but I thought that by what he said that he wasn't
referring to the same hunger that I am talking about (which, by the way, I
agree is a good, not bad, thing

Crafting Mom wrote:
|| Roger Zoul wrote:
||
||| Crafting Mom wrote:
||||| Roger Zoul wrote:
|||||
|||||| MU wrote:
|||||||| On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 19:57:00 -0300, Crafting Mom wrote:
||||||||
||||||||| Starvation sucks, but hunger, the true signal that it is time
||||||||| to eat, is a good thing.
||||||||
|||||||| Hunger is not the true sign that it is time to eat as very
|||||||| often we are hungry with no need whatsoever to eat.
||||||
|||||| Very true.
|||||
||||| I think people are missing what I said. REAL hunger is indeed a
||||| true sign that it's about time to eat. PERCEIVED hunger is not.
||||| Allowing one's stomach to be *technically empty* and noting the
||||| feeling thereof is the technical hunger I am talking about.
||||| Learning the difference between that and the so-called "hunger"
||||| that most people think of when the word is mentioned is
||||| necessary. The hunger I mention is the one with the empty
||||| stomach. It does indeed feel *distinctly* different from other
||||| types of "hunger".
|||
||| Which part do you think is being missed?
||
|| Well, what I said above, for one thing, but I'll repeat it here...
||
|| I thought people were misdefining what I meant by "hunger". When I
|| said, "hunger, as the true signal it's time to eat", I meant just
|| that. I don't know very many people who are truly HUNGRY with "no
|| need whatsoever to eat". That, to me, defines a craving, which is
|| distinctly different than real empty-stomach hunger. Mu is free to
|| disagree with me (not that anyone needs my permission), but I
|| thought that by what he said that he wasn't referring to the same
|| hunger that I am talking about (which, by the way, I agree is a
|| good, not bad, thing

I guess I'm still wondering how you know when you get to real empty-stomach
hunger. You see, I'm on hour 27 of a fast (san 20oz of coffee with 2 packs
of splenda this morning), so I'm sort of wondering if this is real hunger or
perceived hunger. The pangs come and go, so does that mean they aren't
real? Should I be down on my belly about to pass out before I get to real
hunger? My mind tells me it ought to be real hungery since I haven't eaten
in a while. I just got back from the gym with the weights and finishing off
with 20 minutes on teh dreadmill. I don't normally do the dreadmill and I
felt dizzy after getting off. I feel fine now, though, so I assume that was
just due to being on and then getting off the moving platform.

Luna wrote:

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

I swear, if God came down from heaven today and solved all of
humaniy's current problems,

Even though I am not a religious person, I am going to start a
ritual of giving a silent thanks before each meal. Since I don't
believe in god,

hmmm. what's wrong with this picture?


Huh, maybe I should have said that it's a BIG if in the first
statement. But I thought it was pretty clear that it was not meant
literally as something that was actually likely to happen. I could
just as easily have said if aliens came down and solved our problems
with superior technology, or if a sorceror appeared and solved our
problems with magic, both of which are still illustrations, not actual
scientific hypotheses. On rereading yet again, I still think it was
obvious that I wasn't being literal in my first statement. Obvious to
anyone who isn't hard of thinking, anyway. I'll try to be more
sensitive to your disabilities in the future.

it's not my disability, dear. it's just bad writing.

There was nothing wrong with my writing. It's just bad reading on your
part. Do you also have trouble understanding that when people say "Oh my
god!" they may not actually be starting a prayer? Do metaphors and
similies trip you up as well? If you read "There were stars in her eyes"
do you take it literally? I have to wonder, since you can't tell the
difference between a hyperbolic illustration and a statement of fact.
It's ok, you'll figure it out eventually.

sloppy thinking leads to sloppy writing. you're guilty of both. but
keep bitching at me if it makes you feel better; i don't mind.

Luna wrote:

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

I swear, if God came down from heaven today and solved all of
humaniy's current problems,

Even though I am not a religious person, I am going to start a
ritual of giving a silent thanks before each meal. Since I don't
believe in god,

hmmm. what's wrong with this picture?


Huh, maybe I should have said that it's a BIG if in the first
statement. But I thought it was pretty clear that it was not meant
literally as something that was actually likely to happen. I could
just as easily have said if aliens came down and solved our problems
with superior technology, or if a sorceror appeared and solved our
problems with magic, both of which are still illustrations, not actual
scientific hypotheses. On rereading yet again, I still think it was
obvious that I wasn't being literal in my first statement. Obvious to
anyone who isn't hard of thinking, anyway. I'll try to be more
sensitive to your disabilities in the future.

it's not my disability, dear. it's just bad writing.

There was nothing wrong with my writing. It's just bad reading on your
part. Do you also have trouble understanding that when people say "Oh my
god!" they may not actually be starting a prayer? Do metaphors and
similies trip you up as well? If you read "There were stars in her eyes"
do you take it literally? I have to wonder, since you can't tell the
difference between a hyperbolic illustration and a statement of fact.
It's ok, you'll figure it out eventually.

sloppy thinking leads to sloppy writing. you're guilty of both. but
keep bitching at me if it makes you feel better; i don't mind.

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

I swear, if God came down from heaven today and solved all of
humaniy's current problems,

Even though I am not a religious person, I am going to start a
ritual of giving a silent thanks before each meal. Since I don't
believe in god,

hmmm. what's wrong with this picture?


Huh, maybe I should have said that it's a BIG if in the first
statement. But I thought it was pretty clear that it was not meant
literally as something that was actually likely to happen. I could
just as easily have said if aliens came down and solved our problems
with superior technology, or if a sorceror appeared and solved our
problems with magic, both of which are still illustrations, not actual
scientific hypotheses. On rereading yet again, I still think it was
obvious that I wasn't being literal in my first statement. Obvious to
anyone who isn't hard of thinking, anyway. I'll try to be more
sensitive to your disabilities in the future.

it's not my disability, dear. it's just bad writing.

There was nothing wrong with my writing. It's just bad reading on your
part. Do you also have trouble understanding that when people say "Oh my
god!" they may not actually be starting a prayer? Do metaphors and
similies trip you up as well? If you read "There were stars in her eyes"
do you take it literally? I have to wonder, since you can't tell the
difference between a hyperbolic illustration and a statement of fact.
It's ok, you'll figure it out eventually.

sloppy thinking leads to sloppy writing. you're guilty of both. but
keep bitching at me if it makes you feel better; i don't mind.

Thank you for not minding my bitching at you, it does make me feel better.
I honestly don't mind the critiquing of my ideas, I really enjoy debates on
ideas.

But your pointing out that I say I don't believe in god in the sincere part
of the post, when I had earlier used the clichéd phrase "If god came down
from heaven" to illustrate a point in the cynical part of the post, and
trying to imply that there was some sort of hypocrisy or inconsitency
there, was rather petty and silly.

It's as if you really wanted to criticize me because, hey, it's me, and no
matter what I post you feel it's your job to nitpick it in some way, but
you couldn't find fault with my ideas. So, you looked for spelling mistakes
and couldn't find any of those. Next you moved on to scanning for grammar
mistakes, but alas, they were nowhere to be found. So you had to really
stretch and try to make me look inconsitent or hypocritical by
comparing/contrasting two statements which differ in style, voice, and most
importantly intent, only having in common the use of a single word.

Using the common cliché "If god came down from heaven" does not imply a
belief in god anymore than saying "oh my god!" when something startles you,
or "goddamnit!" when you stub your toe. Everyone knows this, including
you. I was just being nasty when I implied that you didn't have the
ability to understand, I know you really do. You just chose to pretend you
didn't understand so you could enjoy your hobby of picking at me.

I don't want you to think I'm mad at you or I hate you or anything. If I
thought being sarcastic and bitchy at you would actually hurt your
feelings, I wouldn't do it, but I think I know you well enough to know that
you can take it. And you know you were being petty just as much as I know
I'm being bitchy, even if you won't say that you know it, at least you know
that I know that you know it.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

I swear, if God came down from heaven today and solved all of
humaniy's current problems,

Even though I am not a religious person, I am going to start a
ritual of giving a silent thanks before each meal. Since I don't
believe in god,

hmmm. what's wrong with this picture?


Huh, maybe I should have said that it's a BIG if in the first
statement. But I thought it was pretty clear that it was not meant
literally as something that was actually likely to happen. I could
just as easily have said if aliens came down and solved our problems
with superior technology, or if a sorceror appeared and solved our
problems with magic, both of which are still illustrations, not actual
scientific hypotheses. On rereading yet again, I still think it was
obvious that I wasn't being literal in my first statement. Obvious to
anyone who isn't hard of thinking, anyway. I'll try to be more
sensitive to your disabilities in the future.

it's not my disability, dear. it's just bad writing.

There was nothing wrong with my writing. It's just bad reading on your
part. Do you also have trouble understanding that when people say "Oh my
god!" they may not actually be starting a prayer? Do metaphors and
similies trip you up as well? If you read "There were stars in her eyes"
do you take it literally? I have to wonder, since you can't tell the
difference between a hyperbolic illustration and a statement of fact.
It's ok, you'll figure it out eventually.

sloppy thinking leads to sloppy writing. you're guilty of both. but
keep bitching at me if it makes you feel better; i don't mind.

Thank you for not minding my bitching at you, it does make me feel better.
I honestly don't mind the critiquing of my ideas, I really enjoy debates on
ideas.

But your pointing out that I say I don't believe in god in the sincere part
of the post, when I had earlier used the clichéd phrase "If god came down
from heaven" to illustrate a point in the cynical part of the post, and
trying to imply that there was some sort of hypocrisy or inconsitency
there, was rather petty and silly.

It's as if you really wanted to criticize me because, hey, it's me, and no
matter what I post you feel it's your job to nitpick it in some way, but
you couldn't find fault with my ideas. So, you looked for spelling mistakes
and couldn't find any of those. Next you moved on to scanning for grammar
mistakes, but alas, they were nowhere to be found. So you had to really
stretch and try to make me look inconsitent or hypocritical by
comparing/contrasting two statements which differ in style, voice, and most
importantly intent, only having in common the use of a single word.

Using the common cliché "If god came down from heaven" does not imply a
belief in god anymore than saying "oh my god!" when something startles you,
or "goddamnit!" when you stub your toe. Everyone knows this, including
you. I was just being nasty when I implied that you didn't have the
ability to understand, I know you really do. You just chose to pretend you
didn't understand so you could enjoy your hobby of picking at me.

I don't want you to think I'm mad at you or I hate you or anything. If I
thought being sarcastic and bitchy at you would actually hurt your
feelings, I wouldn't do it, but I think I know you well enough to know that
you can take it. And you know you were being petty just as much as I know
I'm being bitchy, even if you won't say that you know it, at least you know
that I know that you know it.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

In article ,
(The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

Luna wrote:

I swear, if God came down from heaven today and solved all of
humaniy's current problems,

Even though I am not a religious person, I am going to start a
ritual of giving a silent thanks before each meal. Since I don't
believe in god,

hmmm. what's wrong with this picture?


Huh, maybe I should have said that it's a BIG if in the first
statement. But I thought it was pretty clear that it was not meant
literally as something that was actually likely to happen. I could
just as easily have said if aliens came down and solved our problems
with superior technology, or if a sorceror appeared and solved our
problems with magic, both of which are still illustrations, not actual
scientific hypotheses. On rereading yet again, I still think it was
obvious that I wasn't being literal in my first statement. Obvious to
anyone who isn't hard of thinking, anyway. I'll try to be more
sensitive to your disabilities in the future.

it's not my disability, dear. it's just bad writing.

There was nothing wrong with my writing. It's just bad reading on your
part. Do you also have trouble understanding that when people say "Oh my
god!" they may not actually be starting a prayer? Do metaphors and
similies trip you up as well? If you read "There were stars in her eyes"
do you take it literally? I have to wonder, since you can't tell the
difference between a hyperbolic illustration and a statement of fact.
It's ok, you'll figure it out eventually.

sloppy thinking leads to sloppy writing. you're guilty of both. but
keep bitching at me if it makes you feel better; i don't mind.

Thank you for not minding my bitching at you, it does make me feel better.
I honestly don't mind the critiquing of my ideas, I really enjoy debates on
ideas.

But your pointing out that I say I don't believe in god in the sincere part
of the post, when I had earlier used the clichéd phrase "If god came down
from heaven" to illustrate a point in the cynical part of the post, and
trying to imply that there was some sort of hypocrisy or inconsitency
there, was rather petty and silly.

It's as if you really wanted to criticize me because, hey, it's me, and no
matter what I post you feel it's your job to nitpick it in some way, but
you couldn't find fault with my ideas. So, you looked for spelling mistakes
and couldn't find any of those. Next you moved on to scanning for grammar
mistakes, but alas, they were nowhere to be found. So you had to really
stretch and try to make me look inconsitent or hypocritical by
comparing/contrasting two statements which differ in style, voice, and most
importantly intent, only having in common the use of a single word.

Using the common cliché "If god came down from heaven" does not imply a
belief in god anymore than saying "oh my god!" when something startles you,
or "goddamnit!" when you stub your toe. Everyone knows this, including
you. I was just being nasty when I implied that you didn't have the
ability to understand, I know you really do. You just chose to pretend you
didn't understand so you could enjoy your hobby of picking at me.

I don't want you to think I'm mad at you or I hate you or anything. If I
thought being sarcastic and bitchy at you would actually hurt your
feelings, I wouldn't do it, but I think I know you well enough to know that
you can take it. And you know you were being petty just as much as I know
I'm being bitchy, even if you won't say that you know it, at least you know
that I know that you know it.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

I grew up poor. Very poor. We had commodity foods (before foodstamps). Not
much choice. But I got fat on that food. High carbs, high fat. Cheap food.

It was years before I ate fruit, vegetables, and meat. It's easy to be fat
and
starving.


Yes it is. It is also nice to read that another has experienced the similair.

And many people are obese because buying starches is cheaper than meat. I'm
not talking about junk food. I'm talking about rice, potatoes, and flour.
It's not all black and white.


Yes, I agree. Before starting atkins, its what we did eat alot of. Rice,
potatoes, flour. Meat to some is very expensive.

Yvonne