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Old November 17th, 2004, 05:00 PM
Luna
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In article ,
"Lady o' the house" wrote:

Luna,

Just wanted you to know that I'm 'pulling' for you. You were one of the
first posters I read when I was a 'newbie' here, and you were (and still
are!) a big inspiration to me.

I like Sandy's advice; trying to overcome more than one unhealthy habit at a
time is overwhelming.

Keep at it!



Yes, I like Sandy's advice too. Originally I had planned to get to goal
weight or a little lower before trying to quit smoking, but one day I got
all fired up and thought "Hey, I can do it! I can do anything!" I still
think I could quit smoking and lose weight at the same time, if I didn't
have anything else to do or focus on, like people on those reality shows.
But I only have so much energy, and it got spread too thin, and everything
started slowly falling apart.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.
  #12  
Old November 17th, 2004, 05:03 PM
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"Lady o' the house" wrote in message
...
Luna,

Just wanted you to know that I'm 'pulling' for you. You were one of the
first posters I read when I was a 'newbie' here, and you were (and still
are!) a big inspiration to me.

I like Sandy's advice; trying to overcome more than one unhealthy habit at
a
time is overwhelming.

Keep at it!

--
Linda
LC since Oct. 13, 2003
296/186.8/160
http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo



That is why they can smoke in Chem Dep programs. Need to smoke to keep from
going crazy from the lack of drugs/etoh.

One thing I never understand tho is this:
I've been smoking pretty much since 13 yrs old. 1978. and I'll admit
that I've had some heavier smoking times - big partying days, when my
"almost"stepdad died totally unexpectedly etc- that could get me up over a
1/2 ppd (pack per day), but usually I smoke less than 5 cigs/day. I haven't
had one today an it is nearly 11am.
So I don't understand why you all have to smoke SO many???? wean your
nicotine level down. that is what I have done after the 3-4 times that I've
gone up to a ppd+ (pack per day).
My DH will put out a smoke and within a minute he might be starting to light
another one and he won't even realize what he is doing unless I mention it
(nicely, of course .

If I want a smoke I will delay it. (hmm, maybe I should apply this to food
ya think?) pretty soon it's in the back of my mind like, as soon as I get a
good, relaxing chance to have a smoke I will and that helps me smoke much
less than I am capable of.
HTH

--
Lori
220/160/44
LC since 1/17/03
back on track 11/1004 @ 163
d wife of Curtis, Stage 4 Prostate cancer at age 40
http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller


  #13  
Old November 17th, 2004, 05:03 PM
Lorelei
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"Lady o' the house" wrote in message
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Luna,

Just wanted you to know that I'm 'pulling' for you. You were one of the
first posters I read when I was a 'newbie' here, and you were (and still
are!) a big inspiration to me.

I like Sandy's advice; trying to overcome more than one unhealthy habit at
a
time is overwhelming.

Keep at it!

--
Linda
LC since Oct. 13, 2003
296/186.8/160
http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo



That is why they can smoke in Chem Dep programs. Need to smoke to keep from
going crazy from the lack of drugs/etoh.

One thing I never understand tho is this:
I've been smoking pretty much since 13 yrs old. 1978. and I'll admit
that I've had some heavier smoking times - big partying days, when my
"almost"stepdad died totally unexpectedly etc- that could get me up over a
1/2 ppd (pack per day), but usually I smoke less than 5 cigs/day. I haven't
had one today an it is nearly 11am.
So I don't understand why you all have to smoke SO many???? wean your
nicotine level down. that is what I have done after the 3-4 times that I've
gone up to a ppd+ (pack per day).
My DH will put out a smoke and within a minute he might be starting to light
another one and he won't even realize what he is doing unless I mention it
(nicely, of course .

If I want a smoke I will delay it. (hmm, maybe I should apply this to food
ya think?) pretty soon it's in the back of my mind like, as soon as I get a
good, relaxing chance to have a smoke I will and that helps me smoke much
less than I am capable of.
HTH

--
Lori
220/160/44
LC since 1/17/03
back on track 11/1004 @ 163
d wife of Curtis, Stage 4 Prostate cancer at age 40
http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller


  #14  
Old November 17th, 2004, 05:12 PM
curious
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Luna,

Even though I'm half a world away from you, I have to laugh at sometimes
the similarities. Plus I'm probably old enough to be your mom, although
I'd have been a young mother at that.

All this to say...I told my husband 2 days ago, OK, I'm ready to "go for
it"...final goal and stay there. I came close to my goal before going to
FL in May but knew I wasn't there "to stay" as I hadn't upped my carb
level, etc. or worked at maintenance. So, I've been hovering in the 150
area, which for someone my age, I suppose is fine. I achieved my
immediate goal of shocking some people when they saw me in June. Now, I'm
read to go on down to 135 and stay there...settle in there.

So, Luna, be aware that you aren't the only one out there. I've thought
about you as I've driven my van around here in Poland. Weird, huh? I don't
even know you and we are miles apart philosophically. But, I usually can
connect to your emails and found it interesting that this is where you are
as well.

We're pulling for you!

Becky P.
http://www.family.solidrockpl.org/html/my_diet_.html

  #15  
Old November 17th, 2004, 05:12 PM
curious
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Luna,

Even though I'm half a world away from you, I have to laugh at sometimes
the similarities. Plus I'm probably old enough to be your mom, although
I'd have been a young mother at that.

All this to say...I told my husband 2 days ago, OK, I'm ready to "go for
it"...final goal and stay there. I came close to my goal before going to
FL in May but knew I wasn't there "to stay" as I hadn't upped my carb
level, etc. or worked at maintenance. So, I've been hovering in the 150
area, which for someone my age, I suppose is fine. I achieved my
immediate goal of shocking some people when they saw me in June. Now, I'm
read to go on down to 135 and stay there...settle in there.

So, Luna, be aware that you aren't the only one out there. I've thought
about you as I've driven my van around here in Poland. Weird, huh? I don't
even know you and we are miles apart philosophically. But, I usually can
connect to your emails and found it interesting that this is where you are
as well.

We're pulling for you!

Becky P.
http://www.family.solidrockpl.org/html/my_diet_.html

  #16  
Old November 17th, 2004, 05:34 PM
Ada Ma
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You go girl!

And I'll add to that you're now doing new resolves in "moderation" compared to
the past where you were possibly "binging" on new resolves, replacing the old
pasta, potatoes, whatever you used to eat too much of with quiting, losing, etc.
We have all witnessed that you can eat in moderation and succeed if you want,
and we know that you can do your new resolves in moderation and succeed too if
you want. All the best to you.

Cheers,
Ada


Luna wrote:

I'm ready to try to start losing again. For the past several months I've
stuck to low-carb for the most part, but I've eaten too much. I eat when
I'm not hungry, I wait too long to eat my first meal then end up eating too
much later in the day, and I've cheated probably more than I've admitted to
myself, and lately I'd even slacked off on the exercise.

It started when I tried to quit smoking. And failed. Sorry guys. I think
I need medical help with this, and my dad's going to help with the cost
when he gets some checks in. See, I have this tendancy to get all fired up
about changing my life, and I want to do it all at once, and then at some
point it just gets to be too much and something snaps and I crawl into a
hole and stop trying to do anything. I keep thinking I'm strong enough to
just quit smoking, just like that, and butch up, and tough my way through
it, and it kills me to admit that on this I am weak and I need help. Yes,
quitting is as simple as just not doing it, but all the stuff that comes
next was just too much for me to deal with. The food cravings, the mood
swings, the violent impulses, the crying jags, the sleepless nights. After
a couple of months it wasn't getting any better, it just kept getting worse
and I caved.

Anyway, I'm so grateful for low-carb, because I feel like I've utterly
failed as far as keeping up the discipline goes, but I have _still_ managed
to stay under 160. It's because the core of my diet, meats and green
veggies, has stayed the same. I've not reverted back to pasta and rice and
potatoes as staple foods. It's the eating around the edges I've had
problems with, a cookie there, a handful of candy there . . . gaw.

So, I've decided to focus on one problem at a time, and I picked weight
loss for now. Yes, I do want to be thin and buff, not just "not
disgustingly fat." I'm starting more exercise, especially more cardio, I'm
breaking my weight routine into alternating upper and lower body days to
force myself to go to the Y every day. This every other day thing doesn't
work for me mentally, I need to have a daily routine. I'll start tracking
my food on Fitday again, and no more cheats, and no more eating when I'm
not hungry. Every time I want to eat when I know I've already had enough
food, usually at night, I will do some yoga or wall pushups or take a walk
instead.

Ok. I've got my motivation back, and I've got a strategy. I'd say wish me
luck but luck has nothing to do with it. Thanks you guys, all of you on
here, old hats and newbies, you're all my inspiration.


  #17  
Old November 17th, 2004, 05:34 PM
Ada Ma
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You go girl!

And I'll add to that you're now doing new resolves in "moderation" compared to
the past where you were possibly "binging" on new resolves, replacing the old
pasta, potatoes, whatever you used to eat too much of with quiting, losing, etc.
We have all witnessed that you can eat in moderation and succeed if you want,
and we know that you can do your new resolves in moderation and succeed too if
you want. All the best to you.

Cheers,
Ada


Luna wrote:

I'm ready to try to start losing again. For the past several months I've
stuck to low-carb for the most part, but I've eaten too much. I eat when
I'm not hungry, I wait too long to eat my first meal then end up eating too
much later in the day, and I've cheated probably more than I've admitted to
myself, and lately I'd even slacked off on the exercise.

It started when I tried to quit smoking. And failed. Sorry guys. I think
I need medical help with this, and my dad's going to help with the cost
when he gets some checks in. See, I have this tendancy to get all fired up
about changing my life, and I want to do it all at once, and then at some
point it just gets to be too much and something snaps and I crawl into a
hole and stop trying to do anything. I keep thinking I'm strong enough to
just quit smoking, just like that, and butch up, and tough my way through
it, and it kills me to admit that on this I am weak and I need help. Yes,
quitting is as simple as just not doing it, but all the stuff that comes
next was just too much for me to deal with. The food cravings, the mood
swings, the violent impulses, the crying jags, the sleepless nights. After
a couple of months it wasn't getting any better, it just kept getting worse
and I caved.

Anyway, I'm so grateful for low-carb, because I feel like I've utterly
failed as far as keeping up the discipline goes, but I have _still_ managed
to stay under 160. It's because the core of my diet, meats and green
veggies, has stayed the same. I've not reverted back to pasta and rice and
potatoes as staple foods. It's the eating around the edges I've had
problems with, a cookie there, a handful of candy there . . . gaw.

So, I've decided to focus on one problem at a time, and I picked weight
loss for now. Yes, I do want to be thin and buff, not just "not
disgustingly fat." I'm starting more exercise, especially more cardio, I'm
breaking my weight routine into alternating upper and lower body days to
force myself to go to the Y every day. This every other day thing doesn't
work for me mentally, I need to have a daily routine. I'll start tracking
my food on Fitday again, and no more cheats, and no more eating when I'm
not hungry. Every time I want to eat when I know I've already had enough
food, usually at night, I will do some yoga or wall pushups or take a walk
instead.

Ok. I've got my motivation back, and I've got a strategy. I'd say wish me
luck but luck has nothing to do with it. Thanks you guys, all of you on
here, old hats and newbies, you're all my inspiration.


  #18  
Old November 17th, 2004, 06:06 PM
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I agree that doing one at a time is a smarter act. I'm an ex-jock who took up
smmoking in college and packed on 50 pounds when I quit ---- um when I quit the
first time. Smoking is by far the harder of the two. I never miss pasta. I
often miss cigarettes.

Also, if I might suggest, try alternating aerobic with the weights. That way
you give yourself at least a day to recover from the soreness.

Most importantly, don't beat yourself up when something doesn't go right. It's
all about learning. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

  #19  
Old November 17th, 2004, 06:06 PM
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I agree that doing one at a time is a smarter act. I'm an ex-jock who took up
smmoking in college and packed on 50 pounds when I quit ---- um when I quit the
first time. Smoking is by far the harder of the two. I never miss pasta. I
often miss cigarettes.

Also, if I might suggest, try alternating aerobic with the weights. That way
you give yourself at least a day to recover from the soreness.

Most importantly, don't beat yourself up when something doesn't go right. It's
all about learning. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

  #20  
Old November 17th, 2004, 08:50 PM
Jim Marnott
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You CAN quit smoking. If I can do it, you can. The first month was the
most horrible time of my life. I felt like I was going to die several
times. But I did it. It's now more than two years on, and I can finally
say I will never smoke again. Before dieting, before anything. Quit
smoking. If you put on 10, 20 30, 40 or more pounds, so what. You'll take
it off later. Smoking is much more dangerous for you than fat, and if you
are diehard smoker, taking off the pounds is easier than quitting.

Quit the smokes! It's difficult, you will hate yourself (and me) for many
weeks, but in the end you will be better. Don't diet again until you've
been off smoking for at least 6 months. But, I say again, QUIT SMOKING
FIRST, NOW! Get the patch, or whatever you need, and just do it and keep it
up. As you know, it's that one cigarette that'll get you started again.
Just don't have it.

There.. I think I've said enough. I'll be quiet now.




"Luna" wrote in message
...
I'm ready to try to start losing again. For the past several months I've
stuck to low-carb for the most part, but I've eaten too much. I eat when
I'm not hungry, I wait too long to eat my first meal then end up eating
too
much later in the day, and I've cheated probably more than I've admitted
to
myself, and lately I'd even slacked off on the exercise.

It started when I tried to quit smoking. And failed. Sorry guys. I
think
I need medical help with this, and my dad's going to help with the cost
when he gets some checks in. See, I have this tendancy to get all fired
up
about changing my life, and I want to do it all at once, and then at some
point it just gets to be too much and something snaps and I crawl into a
hole and stop trying to do anything. I keep thinking I'm strong enough to
just quit smoking, just like that, and butch up, and tough my way through
it, and it kills me to admit that on this I am weak and I need help. Yes,
quitting is as simple as just not doing it, but all the stuff that comes
next was just too much for me to deal with. The food cravings, the mood
swings, the violent impulses, the crying jags, the sleepless nights.
After
a couple of months it wasn't getting any better, it just kept getting
worse
and I caved.

Anyway, I'm so grateful for low-carb, because I feel like I've utterly
failed as far as keeping up the discipline goes, but I have _still_
managed
to stay under 160. It's because the core of my diet, meats and green
veggies, has stayed the same. I've not reverted back to pasta and rice and
potatoes as staple foods. It's the eating around the edges I've had
problems with, a cookie there, a handful of candy there . . . gaw.

So, I've decided to focus on one problem at a time, and I picked weight
loss for now. Yes, I do want to be thin and buff, not just "not
disgustingly fat." I'm starting more exercise, especially more cardio,
I'm
breaking my weight routine into alternating upper and lower body days to
force myself to go to the Y every day. This every other day thing doesn't
work for me mentally, I need to have a daily routine. I'll start tracking
my food on Fitday again, and no more cheats, and no more eating when I'm
not hungry. Every time I want to eat when I know I've already had enough
food, usually at night, I will do some yoga or wall pushups or take a walk
instead.

Ok. I've got my motivation back, and I've got a strategy. I'd say wish
me
luck but luck has nothing to do with it. Thanks you guys, all of you on
here, old hats and newbies, you're all my inspiration.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.



 




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