Prednisone for my poison ivy

Hi Jenny,

That said, the problem with prednisone is that really messes up your insulin
and blood sugar. It can also push marginal beta cells over the edge and
permanently screw up your blood sugar. For most people, blood sugar will
return to normal after the prednisone is out of the system, but it's worth
keeping an eye on your blood sugar afterwards because for a few of us, it
doesn't. I am pretty sure that it was a course of prednisone that pushed me
from being hypoglycemic to being a full-fledged diabetic. People with
diabetes who take prednisone can see their control permanently worsen.

Why is prednisone used then? Wouldn't cortisol also work, and be less
toxic?
--
Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

Curt,

I only took prednisone for 9 days and it screwed up my blood sugar
permanently. If you don't bounce back when the drug is finished, get yours
checked.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm


"curt" wrote in message
news:lNlod.3629$VG.2196@trndny07...
Thanks Jenny. Being that I am only on it for 9 days, I am not worried
about
all that. I already feel a little better and am down 1/3rd of my
beginning
doses.

Curt


"Jenny" wrote in message
...
Curt,

My son has a poison ivy reaction that gets so bad he has to take
prednisone
and very high doses of it, at that. If he doesn't take it early in the
process he ends up looking, literally, like a tree covered with red bark
and
it can take five months to clear up!

That said, the problem with prednisone is that really messes up your
insulin
and blood sugar. It can also push marginal beta cells over the edge and
permanently screw up your blood sugar. For most people, blood sugar will
return to normal after the prednisone is out of the system, but it's
worth
keeping an eye on your blood sugar afterwards because for a few of us,
it
doesn't. I am pretty sure that it was a course of prednisone that
pushed
me
from being hypoglycemic to being a full-fledged diabetic. People with
diabetes who take prednisone can see their control permanently worsen.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2
diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm


"curt" wrote in message
newsFtnd.51$356.50@trndny04...
Well my eye was almost swollen shut and I ended up seeing my doctor.
He
stated that it is in my system and my body will most likely have the
rashes
pop up all over the place. I can't remember the term used. Anyway he
put
me on Prednisone (steroid) for 9 days. This is day three and he was
right,
the rashes just keep popping up everywhere. I put everything I own in
the
way and even washed inside my car. My dog was bathed just to make
sure
I
didn't pet him with the damn oil from the ivy.

I don't like taking this drug. I am way too awake (jittery) and have
trouble sleeping without having a few drinks. I am hungry all the
time
and
it isn't just some little huger spell. I am HUNGRY!

The rashes are all over me, but my face finally is not as swollen.

Now to make this on topic.... I am off the diet for a few days. I
just
don't care and really don't want to deal with the hunger. It is only
a
few
days and not the end of the world. I will be back on track when it is
over.
I am not eating sweets due to how awake I am at least.

Take care,
Curt

Curt,

I only took prednisone for 9 days and it screwed up my blood sugar
permanently. If you don't bounce back when the drug is finished, get yours
checked.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm


"curt" wrote in message
news:lNlod.3629$VG.2196@trndny07...
Thanks Jenny. Being that I am only on it for 9 days, I am not worried
about
all that. I already feel a little better and am down 1/3rd of my
beginning
doses.

Curt


"Jenny" wrote in message
...
Curt,

My son has a poison ivy reaction that gets so bad he has to take
prednisone
and very high doses of it, at that. If he doesn't take it early in the
process he ends up looking, literally, like a tree covered with red bark
and
it can take five months to clear up!

That said, the problem with prednisone is that really messes up your
insulin
and blood sugar. It can also push marginal beta cells over the edge and
permanently screw up your blood sugar. For most people, blood sugar will
return to normal after the prednisone is out of the system, but it's
worth
keeping an eye on your blood sugar afterwards because for a few of us,
it
doesn't. I am pretty sure that it was a course of prednisone that
pushed
me
from being hypoglycemic to being a full-fledged diabetic. People with
diabetes who take prednisone can see their control permanently worsen.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2
diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm


"curt" wrote in message
newsFtnd.51$356.50@trndny04...
Well my eye was almost swollen shut and I ended up seeing my doctor.
He
stated that it is in my system and my body will most likely have the
rashes
pop up all over the place. I can't remember the term used. Anyway he
put
me on Prednisone (steroid) for 9 days. This is day three and he was
right,
the rashes just keep popping up everywhere. I put everything I own in
the
way and even washed inside my car. My dog was bathed just to make
sure
I
didn't pet him with the damn oil from the ivy.

I don't like taking this drug. I am way too awake (jittery) and have
trouble sleeping without having a few drinks. I am hungry all the
time
and
it isn't just some little huger spell. I am HUNGRY!

The rashes are all over me, but my face finally is not as swollen.

Now to make this on topic.... I am off the diet for a few days. I
just
don't care and really don't want to deal with the hunger. It is only
a
few
days and not the end of the world. I will be back on track when it is
over.
I am not eating sweets due to how awake I am at least.

Take care,
Curt

Mogget,

Prednisone is a form of cortisol/cortisone. .

Naturally high cortisol levels are associated with the development of
diabetes, too.

These drugs are used because there are times when nothing else will shut
down a runaway autoinflammatory reaction and hence the risk is warranted.
However, I think doctors are much too fast to prescribe it and use it in
situations where it really isn't such a good idea.

That said, systemic poison ivy probably is a case where it's use is
appropriate. No child should have to go through what my son did when he had
the untreated systemic reaction to the poison ivy (or perhaps poison oak. We
never were sure which plant it was, only that it was a plant.)

BTW, I forgot to mention in the earlier message that when you are taking the
prednisone you have to be very vigilant with any cuts because the prednisone
turns off the immune system and infections can very easily take root. Hit
any broken skin with antibiotic ointment!

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm


"Mogget" wrote in message
...
Hi Jenny,

That said, the problem with prednisone is that really messes up your
insulin
and blood sugar. It can also push marginal beta cells over the edge and
permanently screw up your blood sugar. For most people, blood sugar will
return to normal after the prednisone is out of the system, but it's
worth
keeping an eye on your blood sugar afterwards because for a few of us, it
doesn't. I am pretty sure that it was a course of prednisone that pushed
me
from being hypoglycemic to being a full-fledged diabetic. People with
diabetes who take prednisone can see their control permanently worsen.

Why is prednisone used then? Wouldn't cortisol also work, and be less
toxic?
--
Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

Mogget,

Prednisone is a form of cortisol/cortisone. .

Naturally high cortisol levels are associated with the development of
diabetes, too.

These drugs are used because there are times when nothing else will shut
down a runaway autoinflammatory reaction and hence the risk is warranted.
However, I think doctors are much too fast to prescribe it and use it in
situations where it really isn't such a good idea.

That said, systemic poison ivy probably is a case where it's use is
appropriate. No child should have to go through what my son did when he had
the untreated systemic reaction to the poison ivy (or perhaps poison oak. We
never were sure which plant it was, only that it was a plant.)

BTW, I forgot to mention in the earlier message that when you are taking the
prednisone you have to be very vigilant with any cuts because the prednisone
turns off the immune system and infections can very easily take root. Hit
any broken skin with antibiotic ointment!

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm


"Mogget" wrote in message
...
Hi Jenny,

That said, the problem with prednisone is that really messes up your
insulin
and blood sugar. It can also push marginal beta cells over the edge and
permanently screw up your blood sugar. For most people, blood sugar will
return to normal after the prednisone is out of the system, but it's
worth
keeping an eye on your blood sugar afterwards because for a few of us, it
doesn't. I am pretty sure that it was a course of prednisone that pushed
me
from being hypoglycemic to being a full-fledged diabetic. People with
diabetes who take prednisone can see their control permanently worsen.

Why is prednisone used then? Wouldn't cortisol also work, and be less
toxic?
--
Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

Jenny, I don't know if I had my blood sugar tested before. I don't think I
have any problems in that area. My whole weight problems are all binge
related and mental crap. Thanks for looking out for me though. I will see
if I feel any different or whatever it is I should be looking for.

Curt


"Jenny" wrote in message
...
Curt,

I only took prednisone for 9 days and it screwed up my blood sugar
permanently. If you don't bounce back when the drug is finished, get
yours
checked.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2
diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm


"curt" wrote in message
news:lNlod.3629$VG.2196@trndny07...
Thanks Jenny. Being that I am only on it for 9 days, I am not worried
about
all that. I already feel a little better and am down 1/3rd of my
beginning
doses.

Curt


"Jenny" wrote in message
...
Curt,

My son has a poison ivy reaction that gets so bad he has to take
prednisone
and very high doses of it, at that. If he doesn't take it early in
the
process he ends up looking, literally, like a tree covered with red
bark
and
it can take five months to clear up!

That said, the problem with prednisone is that really messes up your
insulin
and blood sugar. It can also push marginal beta cells over the edge
and
permanently screw up your blood sugar. For most people, blood sugar
will
return to normal after the prednisone is out of the system, but it's
worth
keeping an eye on your blood sugar afterwards because for a few of us,
it
doesn't. I am pretty sure that it was a course of prednisone that
pushed
me
from being hypoglycemic to being a full-fledged diabetic. People with
diabetes who take prednisone can see their control permanently worsen.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2
diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm


"curt" wrote in message
newsFtnd.51$356.50@trndny04...
Well my eye was almost swollen shut and I ended up seeing my doctor.
He
stated that it is in my system and my body will most likely have the
rashes
pop up all over the place. I can't remember the term used. Anyway
he
put
me on Prednisone (steroid) for 9 days. This is day three and he was
right,
the rashes just keep popping up everywhere. I put everything I own
in
the
way and even washed inside my car. My dog was bathed just to make
sure
I
didn't pet him with the damn oil from the ivy.

I don't like taking this drug. I am way too awake (jittery) and
have
trouble sleeping without having a few drinks. I am hungry all the
time
and
it isn't just some little huger spell. I am HUNGRY!

The rashes are all over me, but my face finally is not as swollen.

Now to make this on topic.... I am off the diet for a few days. I
just
don't care and really don't want to deal with the hunger. It is
only
a
few
days and not the end of the world. I will be back on track when it
is
over.
I am not eating sweets due to how awake I am at least.

Take care,
Curt

"curt" wrote in message news:oFtnd.51$356.50@trndny04...
Well my eye was almost swollen shut and I ended up seeing my doctor. He
stated that it is in my system and my body will most likely have the rashes
pop up all over the place. I can't remember the term used. Anyway he put
me on Prednisone (steroid) for 9 days. This is day three and he was right,
the rashes just keep popping up everywhere. I put everything I own in the
way and even washed inside my car. My dog was bathed just to make sure I
didn't pet him with the damn oil from the ivy.

I don't like taking this drug. I am way too awake (jittery) and have
trouble sleeping without having a few drinks. I am hungry all the time and
it isn't just some little huger spell. I am HUNGRY!

The rashes are all over me, but my face finally is not as swollen.

Now to make this on topic.... I am off the diet for a few days. I just
don't care and really don't want to deal with the hunger. It is only a few
days and not the end of the world. I will be back on track when it is over.
I am not eating sweets due to how awake I am at least.

Take care,
Cur

You have my sympathy. I took prednisone for 3 days to see if it would
help my colitis. It was like I was on speed--was wired something
awful. Thank God, I only had to take it for a few days. I feel sorry
for anyone who must take it longer. Hang in there.

"curt" wrote in message news:oFtnd.51$356.50@trndny04...
Well my eye was almost swollen shut and I ended up seeing my doctor. He
stated that it is in my system and my body will most likely have the rashes
pop up all over the place. I can't remember the term used. Anyway he put
me on Prednisone (steroid) for 9 days. This is day three and he was right,
the rashes just keep popping up everywhere. I put everything I own in the
way and even washed inside my car. My dog was bathed just to make sure I
didn't pet him with the damn oil from the ivy.

I don't like taking this drug. I am way too awake (jittery) and have
trouble sleeping without having a few drinks. I am hungry all the time and
it isn't just some little huger spell. I am HUNGRY!

The rashes are all over me, but my face finally is not as swollen.

Now to make this on topic.... I am off the diet for a few days. I just
don't care and really don't want to deal with the hunger. It is only a few
days and not the end of the world. I will be back on track when it is over.
I am not eating sweets due to how awake I am at least.

Take care,
Cur

You have my sympathy. I took prednisone for 3 days to see if it would
help my colitis. It was like I was on speed--was wired something
awful. Thank God, I only had to take it for a few days. I feel sorry
for anyone who must take it longer. Hang in there.

curt wrote:
|| Thanks Roger. Took a bike ride at night a couple nights ago. It
|| was light up night in Pittsburgh. What a great time. Did over 30
|| miles for a night ride. It was fun, but I got a flat and hit a
|| railroad crossing an went down. It wasn't too bad though and didn't
|| ruin my night.

I'm impressed. 30 miles at night. Too bad about going down though. How
fast were you going?

||
|| Enjoy,
|| Curt
||
||
|| "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
|| ...
||| Hang tight, bro.
|||
||| curt wrote:
||||| Well my eye was almost swollen shut and I ended up seeing my
||||| doctor. He stated that it is in my system and my body will most
||||| likely have the rashes pop up all over the place. I can't
||||| remember the term used. Anyway he put me on Prednisone (steroid)
||||| for 9 days. This is day three and he was right, the rashes just
||||| keep popping up everywhere. I put everything I own in the way
||||| and even washed
||||| inside my car. My dog was bathed just to make sure I didn't pet
||||| him with the damn oil from the ivy.
|||||
||||| I don't like taking this drug. I am way too awake (jittery) and
||||| have trouble sleeping without having a few drinks. I am hungry
||||| all the time and it isn't just some little huger spell. I am
||||| HUNGRY!
|||||
||||| The rashes are all over me, but my face finally is not as swollen.
|||||
||||| Now to make this on topic.... I am off the diet for a few days. I
||||| just don't care and really don't want to deal with the hunger. It
||||| is only a few days and not the end of the world. I will be back
||||| on track when it is over. I am not eating sweets due to how awake
||||| I am at least.
|||||
||||| Take care,
||||| Curt

curt wrote:
|| Thanks Roger. Took a bike ride at night a couple nights ago. It
|| was light up night in Pittsburgh. What a great time. Did over 30
|| miles for a night ride. It was fun, but I got a flat and hit a
|| railroad crossing an went down. It wasn't too bad though and didn't
|| ruin my night.

I'm impressed. 30 miles at night. Too bad about going down though. How
fast were you going?

||
|| Enjoy,
|| Curt
||
||
|| "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
|| ...
||| Hang tight, bro.
|||
||| curt wrote:
||||| Well my eye was almost swollen shut and I ended up seeing my
||||| doctor. He stated that it is in my system and my body will most
||||| likely have the rashes pop up all over the place. I can't
||||| remember the term used. Anyway he put me on Prednisone (steroid)
||||| for 9 days. This is day three and he was right, the rashes just
||||| keep popping up everywhere. I put everything I own in the way
||||| and even washed
||||| inside my car. My dog was bathed just to make sure I didn't pet
||||| him with the damn oil from the ivy.
|||||
||||| I don't like taking this drug. I am way too awake (jittery) and
||||| have trouble sleeping without having a few drinks. I am hungry
||||| all the time and it isn't just some little huger spell. I am
||||| HUNGRY!
|||||
||||| The rashes are all over me, but my face finally is not as swollen.
|||||
||||| Now to make this on topic.... I am off the diet for a few days. I
||||| just don't care and really don't want to deal with the hunger. It
||||| is only a few days and not the end of the world. I will be back
||||| on track when it is over. I am not eating sweets due to how awake
||||| I am at least.
|||||
||||| Take care,
||||| Curt