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Old July 9th, 2006, 05:49 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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Default Does CBS Discriminate Against Overweight People?

I'm so angry I could spit.

I just got done reading an article on the CBS Sports website.

Scott Miller made fun of overweight people. Twice.

I'm tired of it being politically correct to discriminate against those
of us who don't fit the Madison Avenue view of the world.

Please read my comments on my blog. I'm not sure if a clickable link is
possible, but if it doesn't cut and paste it into your web browser.

http://2brnt2b.blogspot.com/2006/07/...verweight.html

Take care.

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Old July 10th, 2006, 01:50 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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As a fat person myself I looked at the quotes highlighted in that blog and
honestly can't find anything wrong with them.

This quote in particular:

"Like today's Little League teams that award trophies to every single
player, up to and including the fat kid who skips practice, spends more time
picking daisies than fielding fly balls in the outfield and hogs the
postgame pizza and Popsicles."

It doesn't seem to be "making fun of overweight people" so much as using
strong language to make an important point. If that sort of thing is
happening in Little Leagues isn't it important to address the problem - for
the sake of the fat kid? Not to mention the general principle that trophies
for excellence and awards for effort should be for excellence and effort,
right?

doug



On 7/10/06 1:49 AM, in article
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wrote:

I'm so angry I could spit.

I just got done reading an article on the CBS Sports website.

Scott Miller made fun of overweight people. Twice.

I'm tired of it being politically correct to discriminate against those
of us who don't fit the Madison Avenue view of the world.

Please read my comments on my blog. I'm not sure if a clickable link is
possible, but if it doesn't cut and paste it into your web browser.

http://2brnt2b.blogspot.com/2006/07/...verweight.html

Take care.


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Old July 10th, 2006, 02:15 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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I guess what I find offensive is:

First, that there's something wrong with being fat
Second, the writer assumes it's the "fat kid" who skips
practice, etc.

Looks to me like he's using sterotypes about fat people. As I remember
from being a kid and from watching the League World Series on
television over the last few years, it's not uncommon to see the best
players as the "fat" kid.


Suppose he had said the "little n-word kid who skips practice, etc.."
Would you find that offensive? It wasn't that long ago that lots of
bigoted people talked about blacks being lazy and shiftless.

I think it's wrong to generalize about blacks, just as it's wrong to
generalize about heavy kids.

Why is being fat a problem? More than 60% of Americans are overweight.
A lot of these people can't help being heavy. So it's okay to make fun
of them and use stereotypes? I don't think so.

Take care.

Michael

Doug Lerner wrote:
As a fat person myself I looked at the quotes highlighted in that blog and
honestly can't find anything wrong with them.

This quote in particular:

"Like today's Little League teams that award trophies to every single
player, up to and including the fat kid who skips practice, spends more time
picking daisies than fielding fly balls in the outfield and hogs the
postgame pizza and Popsicles."



It doesn't seem to be "making fun of overweight people" so much as using
strong language to make an important point. If that sort of thing is
happening in Little Leagues isn't it important to address the problem - for
the sake of the fat kid? Not to mention the general principle that trophies
for excellence and awards for effort should be for excellence and effort,
right?

doug



On 7/10/06 1:49 AM, in article
, "
wrote:

I'm so angry I could spit.

I just got done reading an article on the CBS Sports website.

Scott Miller made fun of overweight people. Twice.

I'm tired of it being politically correct to discriminate against those
of us who don't fit the Madison Avenue view of the world.

Please read my comments on my blog. I'm not sure if a clickable link is
possible, but if it doesn't cut and paste it into your web browser.

http://2brnt2b.blogspot.com/2006/07/...verweight.html

Take care.


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Old July 10th, 2006, 02:17 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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Default Does CBS Discriminate Against Overweight People?


Doug Lerner wrote:
As a fat person myself I looked at the quotes highlighted in that blog and
honestly can't find anything wrong with them.

This quote in particular:

"Like today's Little League teams that award trophies to every single
player, up to and including the fat kid who skips practice, spends more time
picking daisies than fielding fly balls in the outfield and hogs the
postgame pizza and Popsicles."

It doesn't seem to be "making fun of overweight people" so much as using
strong language to make an important point. If that sort of thing is
happening in Little Leagues isn't it important to address the problem - for
the sake of the fat kid? Not to mention the general principle that trophies
for excellence and awards for effort should be for excellence and effort,
right?


I'm familiar with the 'awards for everyone' attitude from my days as a
tournament director for the Pennsylvania State Chess Federation. The
idea isn't to reward excellence, but to keep the parents happy by
giving a prize to Junior. By the way, if you want to see a lot of fat
kids and fatter adults, visit a chess tournament.

Neil
385/309/220

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Old July 10th, 2006, 02:31 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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Rapidly Aging Baby Boomer wrote:
I guess what I find offensive is:

First, that there's something wrong with being fat


There is, as any doctor will tell you. I'll tell you as well.

Second, the writer assumes it's the "fat kid" who skips
practice, etc.

Looks to me like he's using sterotypes about fat people. As I remember
from being a kid and from watching the League World Series on
television over the last few years, it's not uncommon to see the best
players as the "fat" kid.

Suppose he had said the "little n-word kid who skips practice, etc.."
Would you find that offensive? It wasn't that long ago that lots of
bigoted people talked about blacks being lazy and shiftless.


What is it with this comparison this week? First we had Tony the Phony
- a thin person who 'cares' about fat people - trot it out against one
of the regular posters, and now this? You do realize there is a
difference between stuffing yourself and skin color, don't you?

As for fat people being lazy, I plead guilty. Next point?

I think it's wrong to generalize about blacks, just as it's wrong to
generalize about heavy kids.


I think it's wrong to make such an offensive comparison between the
victims of racism and oppression, and people who eat too much.

Why is being fat a problem? More than 60% of Americans are overweight.
A lot of these people can't help being heavy. So it's okay to make fun
of them and use stereotypes? I don't think so.


I take back my previous comments. Please go to FatHappens, and whine
there.

Neil
385/309/220 - this means I've lost 76 pounds. And yes, it was all my
own damn fault I was fat.

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Old July 10th, 2006, 03:38 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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Of course I realize there's a difference between skin color and being
overweight, I also realize that being discriminated against for any
reason is wrong. I realize that it hurts to be discriminated against.

I apologize, for disagreeing with you I didn't realize everyone had to
agree with you to take part in this group. Is this how you treat
everyone who disagrees with you? The name of this group is
"alt.support.diet". If this is how you offer support, I'd hate to have
you not support me.

As for going somewhere else. I have every bit as much right to be here
as you do. If your arguments had any weight, you wouldn't resort to
telling me "to go somewhere" and whine.



The Historian wrote:
Rapidly Aging Baby Boomer wrote:
I guess what I find offensive is:

First, that there's something wrong with being fat


There is, as any doctor will tell you. I'll tell you as well.

Second, the writer assumes it's the "fat kid" who skips
practice, etc.

Looks to me like he's using sterotypes about fat people. As I remember
from being a kid and from watching the League World Series on
television over the last few years, it's not uncommon to see the best
players as the "fat" kid.

Suppose he had said the "little n-word kid who skips practice, etc.."
Would you find that offensive? It wasn't that long ago that lots of
bigoted people talked about blacks being lazy and shiftless.


What is it with this comparison this week? First we had Tony the Phony
- a thin person who 'cares' about fat people - trot it out against one
of the regular posters, and now this? You do realize there is a
difference between stuffing yourself and skin color, don't you?

As for fat people being lazy, I plead guilty. Next point?

I think it's wrong to generalize about blacks, just as it's wrong to
generalize about heavy kids.


I think it's wrong to make such an offensive comparison between the
victims of racism and oppression, and people who eat too much.

Why is being fat a problem? More than 60% of Americans are overweight.
A lot of these people can't help being heavy. So it's okay to make fun
of them and use stereotypes? I don't think so.


I take back my previous comments. Please go to FatHappens, and whine
there.

Neil
385/309/220 - this means I've lost 76 pounds. And yes, it was all my
own damn fault I was fat.


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Old July 10th, 2006, 03:49 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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Rapidly Aging Baby Boomer wrote:

The name of this group is "alt.support.diet". If this is how you offer
support, I'd hate to have you not support me.


We don't "support" people who believe they have no control over whether
or not they're fat; we call them on their bull****.

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Old July 10th, 2006, 04:57 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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Rapidly Aging Baby Boomer wrote:

I guess what I find offensive is:

First, that there's something wrong with being fat
Second, the writer assumes it's the "fat kid" who skips
practice, etc.

Looks to me like he's using sterotypes about fat people.


You mean the stereotype that they don't exercise as much as slender
people, that they eat more than slender people and that their bodies are
hindered by their lard from being athletically gifted? Those stereotypes?

As I remember
from being a kid and from watching the League World Series on
television over the last few years, it's not uncommon to see the best
players as the "fat" kid.


Are you serious? I sentence you to go sit in a school yard during
recess. I've got three kids and I do this and it's ABSOLUTELY CLEAR
that the fat kids are less athletic than the slender kids. Across the
board. A gifted fat athlete is a rarity.

You seriously think being fat doesn't hinder athletic performance?
Jeez! This is a new form of denial.

Suppose he had said the "little n-word kid who skips practice, etc.."
Would you find that offensive? It wasn't that long ago that lots of
bigoted people talked about blacks being lazy and shiftless.


How do people get fat? How do people get black? Can you spot any
differences?

I think it's wrong to generalize about blacks, just as it's wrong to
generalize about heavy kids.


It's incredibly easy to generalize about heavy kids. They eat too much
and move too little. There. Finished.

Why is being fat a problem? More than 60% of Americans are overweight.


Perhaps being fat isn't a problem to you.

A lot of these people can't help being heavy.


No, they don't CHOOSE to stop being heavy. There's a difference. It's
okay if they choose to be fat, but it's because they choose a sedentary
lifestyle combined with too many calories. Get a grip, man. Obesity is
100% curable with diet and exercise.

So it's okay to make fun of them and use stereotypes? I don't think so.


No one was making fun of them. The example of little league was meant
to be illustrative, not laughing at the kid. The doughy overweight
athlete was being taken to task for poor performance in a professional
athlete. Showing up for work fat in his job is equivalent to a driver
showing up for work drunk. He's not fit for the job he was hired to do.

Stereotypes exist for some pretty good reasons.

Dally
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Old July 10th, 2006, 05:04 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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