Sugar Alcohols

What do ppl think about sugar alcohols? Unfortunately, I'm still in
love with chocolate and like to treat myself to the chocolates made
with the sugar alcohols. Many of them say that there are 0 effective
carbs, unless they have nuts, caramel, or peanut butter. Could these
slow weight loss?

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(Bergy) wrote:

What do ppl think about sugar alcohols? Unfortunately, I'm still in
love with chocolate and like to treat myself to the chocolates made
with the sugar alcohols. Many of them say that there are 0 effective
carbs, unless they have nuts, caramel, or peanut butter. Could these
slow weight loss?

Apparently for some people they do, and for others they don't.

Be aware that they *can* cause gastric upset, especially if you can't
limit yourself to just one.

--
AF
"Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
--artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball

"Bergy" wrote in message
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What do ppl think about sugar alcohols? Unfortunately, I'm still in
love with chocolate and like to treat myself to the chocolates made
with the sugar alcohols. Many of them say that there are 0 effective
carbs, unless they have nuts, caramel, or peanut butter. Could these
slow weight loss?

They could if your body reacts to them as if they were sugar, and some
people do. The only way tell for sure though is to get a glucose meter and
test yourself.

revek

My daughter is following the diet exactly and hasn't lost any weight in a
couple of months so she got a glucose meter to try to figure out how the
food is effecting her.

She has had trouble finding information on what readings she should be
looking for since she doesn't have diabetes. Do you know?

"revek" wrote in message
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They could if your body reacts to them as if they were sugar, and some
people do. The only way tell for sure though is to get a glucose meter
and
test yourself.

revek

No, I'm not diabetic (yet). I'm under the impression the range should be
somewhere inbetween 90-100 fasting, but ICBW. Checking.....

The ADA has changed the numbers again, but I can't find the list at their
site. Here's an older list from 1999 with slightly higher numbers for tight
control:

Fasting

80-125mg/dl

1 hour after eating

80-180mg/dl

2 hours after eating

80-130mg/dl


You would probably get a much better answer over at alt.diabetes.

hth

revek

"RF" wrote in message
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My daughter is following the diet exactly and hasn't lost any weight in a
couple of months so she got a glucose meter to try to figure out how the
food is effecting her.

She has had trouble finding information on what readings she should be
looking for since she doesn't have diabetes. Do you know?

"revek" wrote in message
...

They could if your body reacts to them as if they were sugar, and some
people do. The only way tell for sure though is to get a glucose meter
and
test yourself.

revek

Thank you so much for your reply. So do you know what you would look out for
to see if a particlular food is a problem? Would it probably be ok as long
as you stayed in these ranges? I passed on your info and suggestion to check
out alt.diabetes.
Thanks again

"revek" wrote in message
...
No, I'm not diabetic (yet). I'm under the impression the range should be
somewhere inbetween 90-100 fasting, but ICBW. Checking.....

The ADA has changed the numbers again, but I can't find the list at their
site. Here's an older list from 1999 with slightly higher numbers for
tight
control:

Fasting

80-125mg/dl

1 hour after eating

80-180mg/dl

2 hours after eating

80-130mg/dl


You would probably get a much better answer over at alt.diabetes.

hth

revek

"RF" wrote in message
news:4LOeb.44987$vj2.43869@fed1read06...
My daughter is following the diet exactly and hasn't lost any weight in
a
couple of months so she got a glucose meter to try to figure out how the
food is effecting her.

She has had trouble finding information on what readings she should be
looking for since she doesn't have diabetes. Do you know?

"revek" wrote in message
...

They could if your body reacts to them as if they were sugar, and some
people do. The only way tell for sure though is to get a glucose
meter
and
test yourself.

revek

A glucose meter won't be of any help to you in determining if a food is
raising blood sugar and insulin unless you are severely insulin resistant to
the point of being almost diabetic.

People who do not have diabetes will simply crank out more insulin to take
care of any blood sugar rise that happens after they eat something filled
with carbs. In a healthy person, blood sugar may not rise more than a few
points no matter what is eaten.

But the insulin that is secreted to take care of the blood sugar rise can
stall low carb weight loss because the more that insulin is floating around
your body, the easier it is for the body to store fat rather than burn it.

-- Jenny

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"RF" wrote in message
news:4LOeb.44987$vj2.43869@fed1read06...
My daughter is following the diet exactly and hasn't lost any weight in a
couple of months so she got a glucose meter to try to figure out how the
food is effecting her.

She has had trouble finding information on what readings she should be
looking for since she doesn't have diabetes. Do you know?

"revek" wrote in message
...

They could if your body reacts to them as if they were sugar, and some
people do. The only way tell for sure though is to get a glucose meter
and
test yourself.

revek

You would look for higher numbers than usual or elevated longer than usual,
I think. That is, test yourself eating your regular foods, and then test
again with the suspect food, then compare. If you eat a good lowcarb meal,
protien and veggies, and your bs stays within the expected range, and then
eat something with sugar alcohols in it and it goes higher than that, or
stays elevated longer then I would suspect that you are metabolizing suagar
alcohols as carbs and count them accordingly.

But again I could be wrong.

revek

"RF" wrote in message
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Thank you so much for your reply. So do you know what you would look out
for
to see if a particlular food is a problem? Would it probably be ok as long
as you stayed in these ranges? I passed on your info and suggestion to
check
out alt.diabetes.
Thanks again

"revek" wrote in message
...
No, I'm not diabetic (yet). I'm under the impression the range should
be
somewhere inbetween 90-100 fasting, but ICBW. Checking.....

The ADA has changed the numbers again, but I can't find the list at
their
site. Here's an older list from 1999 with slightly higher numbers for
tight
control:

Fasting

80-125mg/dl

1 hour after eating

80-180mg/dl

2 hours after eating

80-130mg/dl


You would probably get a much better answer over at alt.diabetes.

hth

revek

"RF" wrote in message
news:4LOeb.44987$vj2.43869@fed1read06...
My daughter is following the diet exactly and hasn't lost any weight
in
a
couple of months so she got a glucose meter to try to figure out how
the
food is effecting her.

She has had trouble finding information on what readings she should be
looking for since she doesn't have diabetes. Do you know?

"revek" wrote in message
...

They could if your body reacts to them as if they were sugar, and
some
people do. The only way tell for sure though is to get a glucose
meter
and
test yourself.

revek

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 22:31:40 -0700, "RF" wrote:

My daughter is following the diet exactly and hasn't lost any weight in a
couple of months so she got a glucose meter to try to figure out how the
food is effecting her.

She has had trouble finding information on what readings she should be
looking for since she doesn't have diabetes. Do you know?

Non-diabetic numbers should be less than 120, even after a meal, because in
a normal person, blood sugars don't go up appreciably from eating carbs.

The only way that your daughter will be able to tell if a specific food
affects her differently than others is to check before eating, an hour
after eating, and then two hours afterward, on a regular basis, to see what
"normal" is for her. Then, if there's a change from the norm when she
eats something new, she'll know that she may want to avoid that.

Basically, though, non-diabetics who don't have insulin resistance, won't
show much difference, no matter what they eat. My SO has blood sugars
under 100 all the time, and he lives on Mountain Dew, pizza, cheeseburgers,
and fries.

Good luck to your daughter!
Carol
--
226/195/150
October Challenge Goal - 191
http://photos.yahoo.com/carol_arie/
Atkins since January 26, 2003
Type 2 Diabetic since May 15, 2001

All she is really seeking to do is lower her blood glucose. Rather
than trying to seek an ideal range, I recommend she establish a base
line by taking readings over a few days at bedtime, upon waking, and
one and two hours after meals. She might also see her blood glucose
response to exercise and also test herself at time when she is feeling
particularly low or particularly well. I'm not recommending all this
testing as a way of life (not with the cost of test strips) but only
long enough to establish a profile. Since she does not have diabetes,
she is not likely to find extremes in these readings. If she is
having problems regulating her weight, she may discover she has an
impaired insulin response, indicated by higher-than-normal readings
after meals.

Once she establishes her baseline, she can make adjustments to lower
these readings where appropriate. I do not recommend striving for
very low readings: once you go below 80mg/dL, a further dip in blood
glucose could cause serious and immediate problems. I recommend
instead incremental adjustments in diet and exercise.

Personally, I find 100mg/dL a good number to strive for. I have never
had a reading lower than 86. An hour and two hours after a meal, I do
not like to see it much higher than the 120's, though I have seen it
go into the 180's when I have not regulated my carbohydrate intake
carefully. These are not "ideal" numbers; they are just goals that I
have set for myself.

Even if your daughter is not diabetic, she may find the guidelines
from a diabetes association useful. It will give her an idea of what
is considered normal and what are the extreme ranges of normal. Here
is some information I collected for my own reference:
· A person with normal blood glucose has a blood glucose level below
110 mg/dl.
· A person with impaired fasting glucose has a blood glucose level
between 110 and 126 mg/dl.
· If the fasting blood glucose level rises to 126 mg/dl or above, a
person has diabetes

Also, if your daughter isn't obese, maybe her body has reached its
ideal weight. It's a good thing to improve one's health and
appearance by reducing but I think it is easy to get sucked into this
cult of thinness and overdo it. I've been told (I don't know it
firsthand) that Marilyn Monroe was a size 14! and if she was fat, her
fat was is all the right places.

I am incapable of giving anything but a long answer to a short
question. This is just one guy's opinion and worth every cent you
paid for it. Maybe I have told you something useful.

Max







"RF" wrote in message news:4LOeb.44987$vj2.43869@fed1read06...
My daughter is following the diet exactly and hasn't lost any weight in a
couple of months so she got a glucose meter to try to figure out how the
food is effecting her.

She has had trouble finding information on what readings she should be
looking for since she doesn't have diabetes. Do you know?

"revek" wrote in message
...

They could if your body reacts to them as if they were sugar, and some
people do. The only way tell for sure though is to get a glucose meter
and
test yourself.

revek