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Atkins diet may reduce seizures in children with epilepsy
Aren't the Atkins and ketogenic diets high-fat diets, not low-fat?
"Jean B." wrote in message ... Roger Zoul wrote: Damn...talk about reinventing the wheel! You'd think these folks would find better things to spend research dollars on. They could start by doing a literature study.... And I have been hearing this for years, no decades. Of course, they didn't call it the Atkins Diet but rather a low-fat diet. -- Jean B. |
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Atkins diet may reduce seizures in children with epilepsy
thanks for the reply, I am looking for something that may help my dog with
seizures. Roxan "Klenow" wrote in message .com... I was talking to a ketogenic diet researcher recently and asked if there is a dog model of the diet. I know it's been tried but this person said that dogs don't go into ketosis in the same way that humans do and that their brain would preferentially use lactate over ketones anyway. He didn't believe it would work in dogs. There are several labs looking at the ketogenic diet in animals in order to determine its mechanism. Rats are often used but I know there is a controversy as to whether there is really an effect in rats or if it's an artefact of the data processing. "roxan" wrote in message ... Do you think this could work for dogs? I have a dog with epilepsy. Roxan "Lee B." wrote in message ... Yeah, but ketogenic diets for kids with epilepsy has generally been considered on the "fringe" (kinda like low carb diets for weight lossG). Now that low carb is getting mainstream recognition, it's probably a good time for JHH to get this information back out to the public as well as the medical community in hopes that people will look at it with less skepticism. At least if they have a new study out there, it will turn up in new literature searches. Lee - an RN who actually learned about ketogenic diets in school! PS - if anyone hasn't seen it and can find a copy, watch the movie "First Do No Harm". http://epilepsyontario.org/client/EO/EOWeb.nsf/web/First+Do+No+Harm+(Movie) Roger Zoul wrote: Damn...talk about reinventing the wheel! You'd think these folks would find better things to spend research dollars on. They could start by doing a literature study.... |
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Atkins diet may reduce seizures in children with epilepsy
"Klenow" I've heard a neurologist say that even a small break from the ketogenic diet can break its anticonvulsant effects. Something like a kid sneaking a cookie could break the effect. I don't know if this is just from some anecdotal reports or if this is something that's well known. The information that I have does not support that statement. As a matter of fact a ketogenic diet is not a permanent way of eating for young children (1-10) with epilepsy. After being seizure free for 2 years they are weaned back to a normal diet. http://www.stanford.edu/group/ketodi...html#Heading12 Nancy J |
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Atkins diet may reduce seizures in children with epilepsy
Hmmm...I'm going to have to talk to someone to try to find out how true this
is. The Epilepsy Foundation of America web site seems to contradict the Stanford web site... "It's a good idea to have a meeting with your child's teachers and everyone your child comes in contact with at the beginning of every school year. Make them understand that even half a cookie or a bite of cupcake can lead to seizures, hospital, and the loss of seizure control." http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/an...et/ketofaq.cfm "Nancy Huffines" wrote in message m... "Klenow" I've heard a neurologist say that even a small break from the ketogenic diet can break its anticonvulsant effects. Something like a kid sneaking a cookie could break the effect. I don't know if this is just from some anecdotal reports or if this is something that's well known. The information that I have does not support that statement. As a matter of fact a ketogenic diet is not a permanent way of eating for young children (1-10) with epilepsy. After being seizure free for 2 years they are weaned back to a normal diet. http://www.stanford.edu/group/ketodi...html#Heading12 Nancy J |
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Atkins diet may reduce seizures in children with epilepsy
My dog too suffers from seizures, even when he has rice or dog biscuits or
when he has meat only. "roxan" wrote in message ... thanks for the reply, I am looking for something that may help my dog with seizures. Roxan "Klenow" wrote in message .com... I was talking to a ketogenic diet researcher recently and asked if there is a dog model of the diet. I know it's been tried but this person said that dogs don't go into ketosis in the same way that humans do and that their brain would preferentially use lactate over ketones anyway. He didn't believe it would work in dogs. There are several labs looking at the ketogenic diet in animals in order to determine its mechanism. Rats are often used but I know there is a controversy as to whether there is really an effect in rats or if it's an artefact of the data processing. "roxan" wrote in message ... Do you think this could work for dogs? I have a dog with epilepsy. Roxan "Lee B." wrote in message ... Yeah, but ketogenic diets for kids with epilepsy has generally been considered on the "fringe" (kinda like low carb diets for weight lossG). Now that low carb is getting mainstream recognition, it's probably a good time for JHH to get this information back out to the public as well as the medical community in hopes that people will look at it with less skepticism. At least if they have a new study out there, it will turn up in new literature searches. Lee - an RN who actually learned about ketogenic diets in school! PS - if anyone hasn't seen it and can find a copy, watch the movie "First Do No Harm". http://epilepsyontario.org/client/EO/EOWeb.nsf/web/First+Do+No+Harm+(Movie) Roger Zoul wrote: Damn...talk about reinventing the wheel! You'd think these folks would find better things to spend research dollars on. They could start by doing a literature study.... |
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Atkins diet may reduce seizures in children with epilepsy
I have tried to remain silent on thgis topic. i am invilved in a
support group for children with autism and seizures who are healig through dietary intervention with the Specific Carbohydrate. Doing Atkins Low carb makes Ketosis much riskier for kids than adults. BTW I feed my dog Homemade4Life raw food and she used to have vomitinbg and diaherria but now hasn't had to go to the vet for nearly two years except for the annual physical and rabies booster every other year. My pet insurance would now cover 80% of the costs of an insurable illness. In article , A2K wrote: My dog too suffers from seizures, even when he has rice or dog biscuits or when he has meat only. "roxan" wrote in message ... thanks for the reply, I am looking for something that may help my dog with seizures. Roxan "Klenow" wrote in message .com... I was talking to a ketogenic diet researcher recently and asked if there is a dog model of the diet. I know it's been tried but this person said that dogs don't go into ketosis in the same way that humans do and that their brain would preferentially use lactate over ketones anyway. He didn't believe it would work in dogs. There are several labs looking at the ketogenic diet in animals in order to determine its mechanism. Rats are often used but I know there is a controversy as to whether there is really an effect in rats or if it's an artefact of the data processing. "roxan" wrote in message ... Do you think this could work for dogs? I have a dog with epilepsy. Roxan "Lee B." wrote in message ... Yeah, but ketogenic diets for kids with epilepsy has generally been considered on the "fringe" (kinda like low carb diets for weight lossG). Now that low carb is getting mainstream recognition, it's probably a good time for JHH to get this information back out to the public as well as the medical community in hopes that people will look at it with less skepticism. At least if they have a new study out there, it will turn up in new literature searches. Lee - an RN who actually learned about ketogenic diets in school! PS - if anyone hasn't seen it and can find a copy, watch the movie "First Do No Harm". http://epilepsyontario.org/client/EO/EOWeb.nsf/web/First+Do+No+Harm+(Movie) Roger Zoul wrote: Damn...talk about reinventing the wheel! You'd think these folks would find better things to spend research dollars on. They could start by doing a literature study.... -- Diva ***** The Best Man for the Job May Be A Woman |
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