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Old January 7th, 2006, 02:52 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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I've spent thousands of $$$ on assorted weight loss plans, pills, you name it.
But...I finally found a plan that is actually working for me. It might just work for you, too.
It's revolutionary, I know, but it is working amazingly well.
You eat smaller portions of whatever you like. Have fruits and veggies every day. Drink some water. Exercise at least 3 or 4 times a week. That's it. And you don't have to pay anyone except the grocery store.


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Old January 7th, 2006, 03:40 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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seems quite simple doesn't it and on the good days it sure does work.
Wish the whole world could realize it but alas.

D

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Old January 9th, 2006, 03:47 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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NoSpam wrote:

I've spent thousands of $$$ on assorted weight loss plans, pills, you name it.
But...I finally found a plan that is actually working for me. It might just work for you, too.
It's revolutionary, I know, but it is working amazingly well.
You eat smaller portions of whatever you like. Have fruits and veggies every day. Drink
some water. Exercise at least 3 or 4 times a week. That's it. And you don't have to pay
anyone except the grocery store.


If that worked there wouldn't be a single fat person out there.

For very many people something is causing them to be fat. Reactions,
addictions, whatever. Fail to discover and remove the cause and you
fail you be able to keep off any loss. For these folks all attempts to
simply reduce the portions of the problem foods they already ate is the
foolish dream of someone who has never thought through any of the
issues. But if it has worked for you great. Just don't be so simple
mindedly foolish as to think there's even one single poster on ASD
who hasn't tried that already numerous times and failed.

And note that while the driver might be a physical addiction (I am
wheat intolerant and wheat triggers me the way alcohol triggers an
alcoholic) or an insulin reaction (controlling blood sugar swings is
how low carb works) the driver doesn't have to be physical. It can
be mental. Bad habits, obssessive disorders, you name it. And so
many wise and experienced regulars urge people to "Fix your head".

People walk on two legs and loss is rather like that as well. On one
step fixed the physical by isolating one food at a time and removing
the problem ones. On the next step fix your head by inspecting your
thoughts and emotions and using habitual thought this year to
determine what your emotions will be next years. And continue
stepping on both paths.

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Old January 9th, 2006, 09:40 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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In article . com, Doug
Freyburger wrote:

NoSpam wrote:

I've spent thousands of $$$ on assorted weight loss plans, pills, you name
it.
But...I finally found a plan that is actually working for me. It might just
work for you, too.
It's revolutionary, I know, but it is working amazingly well.
You eat smaller portions of whatever you like. Have fruits and veggies
every day. Drink
some water. Exercise at least 3 or 4 times a week. That's it. And you don't
have to pay
anyone except the grocery store.


If that worked there wouldn't be a single fat person out there.

For very many people something is causing them to be fat. Reactions,
addictions, whatever. Fail to discover and remove the cause and you
fail you be able to keep off any loss. For these folks all attempts to
simply reduce the portions of the problem foods they already ate is the
foolish dream of someone who has never thought through any of the
issues. But if it has worked for you great. Just don't be so simple
mindedly foolish as to think there's even one single poster on ASD
who hasn't tried that already numerous times and failed.

And note that while the driver might be a physical addiction (I am
wheat intolerant and wheat triggers me the way alcohol triggers an
alcoholic) or an insulin reaction (controlling blood sugar swings is
how low carb works) the driver doesn't have to be physical. It can
be mental. Bad habits, obssessive disorders, you name it. And so
many wise and experienced regulars urge people to "Fix your head".

People walk on two legs and loss is rather like that as well. On one
step fixed the physical by isolating one food at a time and removing
the problem ones. On the next step fix your head by inspecting your
thoughts and emotions and using habitual thought this year to
determine what your emotions will be next years. And continue
stepping on both paths.

Good post Doug. My wheat allergy manifests itself my making me dizzy,
stuffy noise instantly, tickles in my ears and later stomach pains.
This falls on deaf ears for the agricultural lobby that built the food
pyramid for the government. LOL!

--
Diva
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The Best Man For The Job Is A Woman
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Old January 10th, 2006, 04:59 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message
ups.com...
NoSpam wrote:

I've spent thousands of $$$ on assorted weight loss plans, pills, you
name it.
But...I finally found a plan that is actually working for me. It might
just work for you, too.
It's revolutionary, I know, but it is working amazingly well.
You eat smaller portions of whatever you like. Have fruits and veggies
every day. Drink
some water. Exercise at least 3 or 4 times a week. That's it. And you
don't have to pay
anyone except the grocery store.


If that worked there wouldn't be a single fat person out there.


What do you mean , "if that worked"??? Of course it will work! It's not the
plan that won't work.


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Old January 10th, 2006, 05:01 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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NoSpam wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:
NoSpam wrote:


You eat smaller portions of whatever you like. Have fruits and veggies
every day. Drink some water. Exercise at least 3 or 4 times a week.
That's it.


If that worked there wouldn't be a single fat person out there.


What do you mean , "if that worked"??? Of course it will work! It's not the
plan that won't work.


Do you honestly believe there's even one fat person on ASD who
hasn't done that many times across the years and failed each and
every time? If you do you're an idiot.

You can assert "Of course it will work!" all you like but the hard
data is completely and utterly against you. It works for some and
good for them but it fails miserably for many maybe even for most.
Data works, wishfull thinking by idiots does not.

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Old January 10th, 2006, 06:00 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message
oups.com...
NoSpam wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:
NoSpam wrote:


You eat smaller portions of whatever you like. Have fruits and veggies
every day. Drink some water. Exercise at least 3 or 4 times a week.
That's it.


If that worked there wouldn't be a single fat person out there.


What do you mean , "if that worked"??? Of course it will work! It's not
the
plan that won't work.


Do you honestly believe there's even one fat person on ASD who
hasn't done that many times across the years and failed each and
every time? If you do you're an idiot.

You can assert "Of course it will work!" all you like but the hard
data is completely and utterly against you. It works for some and
good for them but it fails miserably for many maybe even for most.
Data works, wishfull thinking by idiots does not.



You are the idiot, sir. You've totally missed my point. My plan WILL
work.....if you work the plan. IT'S NOT THE PLAN THAT FAILS. GET IT???


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Old January 10th, 2006, 07:07 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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Ignoramus14714 wrote:

... What
matters is whether you (the person in question) can stick to a
plan. Yet in other words, it is impoprtant to find a plan that you can
stick to.


So if a plan is set up so it is absolutely guaranteed that I
personally will fail on it, then the plan failed. But if a plan
is set up so that I can stick with it but I don't, then I
would be the one who failed. Cases where it's forced like
a POW concentration camp aren't relevant to the topic.

Taking my own case - I'm wheat intolerant and have an
addictive reaction to wheat. So any plan that pushes me
to eat wheat is absolutely guaranteed to fail for me. In
fact any plan that doesn't include an elimination system
would have failed for me before I learned that. I've
corresponded with others who get insulin swings if they
eat even a bite of food over some glycemic load, with folks
who binge if they don't stay below a certain fat percentage,
and so on for quite a long list of individual traits.

The fact is various people have various issues that
guarantee one plan or another will certainly fail for them.
It's why there are a lot of plans out there. It's also why
any claim that one plan is right for everyone is a false
claim. No plan works for everyone. No matter how
simple, no matter how complex. No matter how nice
it sounds, no matter how bizzare it sounds. No matter
that folks who've never encountered some issue ignore
it.

So back to my own case. Put me on a plan that includes
eating wheat and my amount of commitment to following
that plan is utterly irrelevant. No matter how much effort
I put in my body will respond by increasing the cravings.
Blaming me for failing on such a plan is like blaming a
wino subject to binge drinking for failing on a plan that
includes a glass of wine with lunch. Many folks need to
identify their weakness and work to avoid whatever it is.

Some folks on ASD can lose simply by eating less. Good
for them and godspeed. But anyone who imagines it's
true of everyone is a fool.

And my discussion above don't even get into the psychological
aspects. Simply doing it and working at it is a great start for
psychological aspects but it's not sufficient for everyone either.

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Old January 10th, 2006, 07:19 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message
oups.com...

Some folks on ASD can lose simply by eating less. Good
for them and godspeed. But anyone who imagines it's
true of everyone is a fool.

And my discussion above don't even get into the psychological
aspects. Simply doing it and working at it is a great start for
psychological aspects but it's not sufficient for everyone either.


I couldn't agree more with this statement! Yes, I believe that some plans
are not for all people and there are some people who have been unsuccessful
at attempts to lose because of their own motivation, but the wrong plan can
really mess with your head. If you have a medical problem you aren't aware
of, that can mess with your head. Continual lack of success can mess with
your head. Your parents/family/spouse can mess with your head.

"Diet plans" when followed correctly work for most people, not all. There
is no Holy Grail or One Size Fits All program for everyone. Yes, eating
less is what it boils down to, but don't confuse SIMPLE with EASY.
--
the volleyballchick


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Old January 10th, 2006, 07:24 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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NoSpam wrote in message
...

"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message
oups.com...
NoSpam wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:
NoSpam wrote:

You eat smaller portions of whatever you like. Have fruits and

veggies
every day. Drink some water. Exercise at least 3 or 4 times a

week.
That's it.

If that worked there wouldn't be a single fat person out there.

What do you mean , "if that worked"??? Of course it will work!

It's not
the
plan that won't work.


Do you honestly believe there's even one fat person on ASD who
hasn't done that many times across the years and failed each and
every time? If you do you're an idiot.

You can assert "Of course it will work!" all you like but the hard
data is completely and utterly against you. It works for some and
good for them but it fails miserably for many maybe even for most.
Data works, wishfull thinking by idiots does not.


You are the idiot, sir. You've totally missed my point. My plan WILL
work.....if you work the plan. IT'S NOT THE PLAN THAT FAILS. GET

IT???

Your plan is as good as telling alcoholics to limit themselves to 10
drinks per week. It will work if they follow it; but it is
extrodinarily unlikely that many problem drinkers will. A good weight
loss plan has to address the genetic, metabolic, and/or phychosocial
reasons individuals prone to obesity overeat.

Matthew


 




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