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Old August 12th, 2005, 07:27 PM
Dunston
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Hello, I've recently started to diet, well it's more cutting back than
dieting. I'm 37, male, 6ft tall and I did weigh 17st 5lbs (243lbs). I
used to drink pretty much every night, and constantly eat until I went
bed. I now only drink at weekends, and have 3 meals a day; breakfast
(cereal or toast) lunch (sandwich and fruit) dinner
(potatoes/pasta/rice with meat and veg) I been doing this for only 2
weeks. The first week I lost 4lbs, and having weighed myself today,
I've lost another 3lbs (I'm 16st 10lbs now) What I'm curious about is
what sort of weight should I be losing per week? I guess a good weight
for me would be about 15st.
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Old August 15th, 2005, 06:24 AM
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Dunston wrote:
Hello, I've recently started to diet, well it's more cutting back than
dieting. I'm 37, male, 6ft tall and I did weigh 17st 5lbs (243lbs). I
used to drink pretty much every night, and constantly eat until I went
bed. I now only drink at weekends, and have 3 meals a day; breakfast
(cereal or toast) lunch (sandwich and fruit) dinner
(potatoes/pasta/rice with meat and veg) I been doing this for only 2
weeks. The first week I lost 4lbs, and having weighed myself today,
I've lost another 3lbs (I'm 16st 10lbs now) What I'm curious about is
what sort of weight should I be losing per week? I guess a good weight
for me would be about 15st.


You have only mentioned food/calories-in - you haven't mentioned
exercise at all. The two should not be separated. What exercise do you get?

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Chris
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Old August 15th, 2005, 12:04 PM
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Completely on a side issue, the Body Mass Index is a bit rough and
ready as an indictor, but according to it, your goal of 150 stone (210
lb) is about 30 pounds north of a healthy weight for your height. At
210, you will be in the top end of the overweight range, almost into
the start of what they classify as obese. If you are doing this for
your health, any weight loss is great, and 210 is a good mini-goal, but
you might want to contemplate revising your ultimate goal south to more
like 13 stone (185). You also might want to add some exercise to the
mix.

Congrats on the 6 lb.

Mary G.
5' 6", was 195, now hovering 130.

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Old August 15th, 2005, 05:10 PM
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Dunston wrote:

What I'm curious about is
what sort of weight should I be losing per week?


The time scale for fat loss is month to month, not week to
week. Everyone hates this but hating it doesn't stop it
from being true.

Averaged from beginning to the start of maintenance, it
appears that 4 per month is the best rate for keeping it
off. I've never been sure whether this is because
extreme plans tend to have folks crash off of them so
it's the folks who take their time that remain on plan,
or if the rate naturally tapers off as you have less to
lose and no matter how much you started with it spreads
out to 4 per month by the time you hit goal.

You're doing fine. Early loss includes water. Fat is
3500-4000 calories per pound (listed as 9 per gram).
Carbs are listed as 4 calories per gram but the body
stores them dissolved in water. When you add up the
glycogen carbs plus the water it's dissolved in, it
omes out to around 600 calories per pound. This means
that fat loss is gradual (and the reason for the time
scale above) and water loss fast and bouncy. Once the
body runs out of stored carbs it's gone, though. There's
no such thing as 40 pounds of water loss!

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Old August 15th, 2005, 08:25 PM
Dunston
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 06:24:11 +0100, Chris
wrote:

Dunston wrote:
Hello, I've recently started to diet, well it's more cutting back than
dieting. I'm 37, male, 6ft tall and I did weigh 17st 5lbs (243lbs). I
used to drink pretty much every night, and constantly eat until I went
bed. I now only drink at weekends, and have 3 meals a day; breakfast
(cereal or toast) lunch (sandwich and fruit) dinner
(potatoes/pasta/rice with meat and veg) I been doing this for only 2
weeks. The first week I lost 4lbs, and having weighed myself today,
I've lost another 3lbs (I'm 16st 10lbs now) What I'm curious about is
what sort of weight should I be losing per week? I guess a good weight
for me would be about 15st.


You have only mentioned food/calories-in - you haven't mentioned
exercise at all. The two should not be separated. What exercise do you get?


I have a fairly active job, I work outdoors and I'm up and down
ladders every day. I've also taken to bike riding for 30mins a couple
of times a week.
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Old August 15th, 2005, 08:25 PM
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On 15 Aug 2005 09:10:59 -0700, "Doug Freyburger"
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Dunston wrote:

What I'm curious about is
what sort of weight should I be losing per week?


The time scale for fat loss is month to month, not week to
week. Everyone hates this but hating it doesn't stop it
from being true.

Averaged from beginning to the start of maintenance, it
appears that 4 per month is the best rate for keeping it
off. I've never been sure whether this is because
extreme plans tend to have folks crash off of them so
it's the folks who take their time that remain on plan,
or if the rate naturally tapers off as you have less to
lose and no matter how much you started with it spreads
out to 4 per month by the time you hit goal.

You're doing fine. Early loss includes water. Fat is
3500-4000 calories per pound (listed as 9 per gram).
Carbs are listed as 4 calories per gram but the body
stores them dissolved in water. When you add up the
glycogen carbs plus the water it's dissolved in, it
omes out to around 600 calories per pound. This means
that fat loss is gradual (and the reason for the time
scale above) and water loss fast and bouncy. Once the
body runs out of stored carbs it's gone, though. There's
no such thing as 40 pounds of water loss!


Ok thanks, I'm only a couple of weeks in so I'll check and see my
weight loss over the month.
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Old August 15th, 2005, 08:45 PM
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Dunston wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:
Dunston wrote:


What I'm curious about is
what sort of weight should I be losing per week?


The time scale for fat loss is month to month, not week to
week. Everyone hates this but hating it doesn't stop it
from being true.


Averaged from beginning to the start of maintenance, it
appears that 4 per month is the best rate for keeping it
off ...


You're doing fine. Early loss includes water ...


Ok thanks, I'm only a couple of weeks in so I'll check and see my
weight loss over the month.


What happens is two curves added together. One is a
gradual decline reflecting fat lost across the months.
The other is a wild daily up and down bounce of the body
storing and releasing carbs and the water the carbs are
stored in.

There are several approaches that use the scale in a
rational way. Getting on the scale daily and thinking
the number it gives reflects your current weight isn't
in the list. Only getting on the scale monthly is
probably an overreaction to the monthly time scale of
fat loss.

The problem with only weighing monthly is what if you
get the bottom of the water swing one month and then the
top if the water swing the next two months in a row.
You'll think you haven't lost anything in 3 months. It's
an overreaction. Simple compromise is to weigh weekly
with the mindset that progress is supposed to be monthly.
As time goes on that mindset gets easier to acheive but
some find it hard early on.

Arguably the best way to handle it is to use an arithmatic
smoothing formula. The simplist is to weigh 2 days in
a row and average them. From there on add today's weight
plus yesterday's average. Average those 2 numbers by
dividing by 2. Write that one down for tomorrow. This
makes the daily bounce of water have much less effect.
Even better is to use 3 or 4 in place of the 2's above to
get more gradual smoothing. There are very fancy formulas
that are a trivial improvement on this simple method.

One reason folks like to weigh weekly is to find out if
they are doing something wrong. By the time you're on
Maintenance that becomes important - It's easy to
gradually drift off you system and start gaining and
you don't want to be a month in before you catch it.
For folks on a published plan, though, if you actually
need a scale to tell whether you had a problem means you
didn't understand the written plan or you haven't
tracked what you've eaten. Who in their loss phase ever
cheats without knowing it? Problem is you don't mention
a published plan and folks who roll their own don't have
that sort of certainly to build upon.

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Old August 15th, 2005, 11:50 PM
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"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message
ups.com...
One reason folks like to weigh weekly is to find out if
they are doing something wrong. By the time you're on
Maintenance that becomes important - It's easy to
gradually drift off you system and start gaining and
you don't want to be a month in before you catch it.
For folks on a published plan, though, if you actually
need a scale to tell whether you had a problem means you
didn't understand the written plan or you haven't
tracked what you've eaten. Who in their loss phase ever
cheats without knowing it? Problem is you don't mention
a published plan and folks who roll their own don't have
that sort of certainly to build upon.

What are you referring to when you say 'published plan' ?


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Old August 15th, 2005, 11:52 PM
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"Dunston" wrote in message
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I have a fairly active job, I work outdoors and I'm up and down
ladders every day. I've also taken to bike riding for 30mins a couple
of times a week.


There are several in the group who use biking for exercise....it's always
nice to have another biker join us.

Beverly


 




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