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Old June 8th, 2004, 01:22 PM
Mary M - Ohio
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Blah, I had an awful visit at the nutritionist's yesterday -- up to 158 (from a low
of 150 at Nov.'s visit) and body fat was 25% -- eeek, it had been down to 20%.

So it is back to basics -- he wants me to come in for a weigh-in in two weeks just to
keep on trackl. Also, he wants my next visit to be in four weeks instead of the 6-8
we have been doing. I am doing better in the food department though not completely
back on track -- and have been exercising 7 hrs. a week cardio, 4 hrs a week weight
training, and approximately 10+ hours a week gardening -- so it's definitely a food
problem. So I am supposed to keep a food journal for at least two weeks, and so I
have started back with that today. I kept one for 10 months but now I feel very
resistant to doing it -- I haven't kept one since March 2003, so that may be part of
the problem -- it's too easy to let my intake creep up if I don't feel obligated to
write it down. But it also makes me feel like I'm not "normal" -- and I guess I'm
not, LOL.

He said the problem is that my body is fighting very hard to regain the weight, and
also my age and being female are also working against me to pack the fat back on. If
I can keep the weight off for a year, theoretically, my body will stop fighting so
hard to regain. I will not give in -- I can be very very stubborn and determined, and
I've decided my body is out of luck if it thinks it's going to make me fat again --
it's got another think coming! Hormones and age and everything -- too bad -- my mind
is stronger than all of them!

Mary M
325-158-145


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Old June 8th, 2004, 04:07 PM
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Mary M - Ohio wrote:

Blah, I had an awful visit at the nutritionist's yesterday -- up to 158 (from a low
of 150 at Nov.'s visit) and body fat was 25% -- eeek, it had been down to 20%.

So it is back to basics -- he wants me to come in for a weigh-in in two weeks just to
keep on trackl. Also, he wants my next visit to be in four weeks instead of the 6-8
we have been doing. I am doing better in the food department though not completely
back on track -- and have been exercising 7 hrs. a week cardio, 4 hrs a week weight
training, and approximately 10+ hours a week gardening -- so it's definitely a food
problem. So I am supposed to keep a food journal for at least two weeks, and so I
have started back with that today. I kept one for 10 months but now I feel very
resistant to doing it -- I haven't kept one since March 2003, so that may be part of
the problem -- it's too easy to let my intake creep up if I don't feel obligated to
write it down. But it also makes me feel like I'm not "normal" -- and I guess I'm
not, LOL.

He said the problem is that my body is fighting very hard to regain the weight, and
also my age and being female are also working against me to pack the fat back on. If
I can keep the weight off for a year, theoretically, my body will stop fighting so
hard to regain. I will not give in -- I can be very very stubborn and determined, and
I've decided my body is out of luck if it thinks it's going to make me fat again --
it's got another think coming! Hormones and age and everything -- too bad -- my mind
is stronger than all of them!

Mary M
325-158-145


I think we all have to circle round to the basics from time to time.
That's why I really think of my weight loss plan as having four steps.
I'm working on steps 3 and 4 as we speak.

1. Eat less
2. Exercise more
3. Repeat
4. Forever.

I'm a bit concerned about your 11 hours of exercise a week combined with
the 10+ hours of gardening. That seems like you might be shooting
yourself in the foot with an unsustainable lifestyle. Could you fine
tune your exercise regimen to be more efficient and more startling to
your body?

I found that revving up my metabolism really required NON-ENDURANCE type
workouts, i.e., interval training and intense free weights. Doing the
same thing over and over just convinced my body that it needed fat
stores to handle the long-hauls I was giving it. 8 years of sweatless
Nautilus circuits did nothing for me.

Anecdotally, I've recently replaced running for a 1/2 hour with 75
minute hikes due to a knee injury. My weight is creeping up. I think I
need to do more interval training again.

Dally
244/179/169

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Old June 8th, 2004, 04:09 PM
Beverly
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"Mary M - Ohio" wrote in message
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Blah, I had an awful visit at the nutritionist's yesterday -- up to 158

(from a low
of 150 at Nov.'s visit) and body fat was 25% -- eeek, it had been down to

20%.

So it is back to basics -- he wants me to come in for a weigh-in in two

weeks just to
keep on trackl. Also, he wants my next visit to be in four weeks instead

of the 6-8
we have been doing. I am doing better in the food department though not

completely
back on track -- and have been exercising 7 hrs. a week cardio, 4 hrs a

week weight
training, and approximately 10+ hours a week gardening -- so it's

definitely a food
problem. So I am supposed to keep a food journal for at least two weeks,

and so I
have started back with that today. I kept one for 10 months but now I

feel very
resistant to doing it -- I haven't kept one since March 2003, so that may

be part of
the problem -- it's too easy to let my intake creep up if I don't feel

obligated to
write it down. But it also makes me feel like I'm not "normal" -- and I

guess I'm
not, LOL.

He said the problem is that my body is fighting very hard to regain the

weight, and
also my age and being female are also working against me to pack the fat

back on. If
I can keep the weight off for a year, theoretically, my body will stop

fighting so
hard to regain. I will not give in -- I can be very very stubborn and

determined, and
I've decided my body is out of luck if it thinks it's going to make me

fat again --
it's got another think coming! Hormones and age and everything -- too

bad -- my mind
is stronger than all of them!

Mary M
325-158-145


With your attitude and determination that weight doesn't have a chance of
coming back!!

Going back to journaling the food has always helped me lose a few pounds.
It's so easy to forget about a bite of this or a bite of that during the
day. It's those unremembered bites that get usg

Beverly




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Old June 8th, 2004, 04:29 PM
Teri
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"Mary M - Ohio" wrote in message
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I've decided my body is out of luck if it thinks it's going to make me fat

again --
it's got another think coming! Hormones and age and everything -- too

bad -- my mind
is stronger than all of them!

Mary M
325-158-145


Go Mary Go!!! I'm rooting for you! Beat it back!!
Teri




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Old June 8th, 2004, 05:39 PM
Patricia Heil
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Good job on the exercise, wish I had your perseverance!!

"Mary M - Ohio" wrote in message
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Blah, I had an awful visit at the nutritionist's yesterday -- up to 158

(from a low
of 150 at Nov.'s visit) and body fat was 25% -- eeek, it had been down to

20%.

So it is back to basics -- he wants me to come in for a weigh-in in two

weeks just to
keep on trackl. Also, he wants my next visit to be in four weeks instead

of the 6-8
we have been doing. I am doing better in the food department though not

completely
back on track -- and have been exercising 7 hrs. a week cardio, 4 hrs a

week weight
training, and approximately 10+ hours a week gardening -- so it's

definitely a food
problem. So I am supposed to keep a food journal for at least two weeks,

and so I
have started back with that today. I kept one for 10 months but now I feel

very
resistant to doing it -- I haven't kept one since March 2003, so that may

be part of
the problem -- it's too easy to let my intake creep up if I don't feel

obligated to
write it down. But it also makes me feel like I'm not "normal" -- and I

guess I'm
not, LOL.

He said the problem is that my body is fighting very hard to regain the

weight, and
also my age and being female are also working against me to pack the fat

back on. If
I can keep the weight off for a year, theoretically, my body will stop

fighting so
hard to regain. I will not give in -- I can be very very stubborn and

determined, and
I've decided my body is out of luck if it thinks it's going to make me fat

again --
it's got another think coming! Hormones and age and everything -- too

bad -- my mind
is stronger than all of them!

Mary M
325-158-145




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Old June 9th, 2004, 02:25 AM
Chris Braun
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On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:22:08 -0400, "Mary M - Ohio"
wrote:

But it also makes me feel like I'm not "normal" -- and I guess I'm
not, LOL.


I suppose I'm not either, then :-). I don't know whether or not I'll
decide to stop journaling at some point. I know it would be easier
for me to let my intake creep up, too.

If I can keep the weight off for a year, theoretically, my body will stop fighting so
hard to regain.


I think I'd heard this somewhere, but I hadn't thought about it
lately. It will be an interesting experiment :-).

I will not give in -- I can be very very stubborn and determined, and
I've decided my body is out of luck if it thinks it's going to make me fat again --
it's got another think coming! Hormones and age and everything -- too bad -- my mind
is stronger than all of them!


I hope to be, too! We can fight together! :-)

Chris
262/151/ (145-150)

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Old June 9th, 2004, 02:30 AM
Chris Braun
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 11:07:51 -0400, Dally wrote:

I'm a bit concerned about your 11 hours of exercise a week combined with
the 10+ hours of gardening. That seems like you might be shooting
yourself in the foot with an unsustainable lifestyle. Could you fine
tune your exercise regimen to be more efficient and more startling to
your body?

I found that revving up my metabolism really required NON-ENDURANCE type
workouts, i.e., interval training and intense free weights. Doing the
same thing over and over just convinced my body that it needed fat
stores to handle the long-hauls I was giving it. 8 years of sweatless
Nautilus circuits did nothing for me.

Anecdotally, I've recently replaced running for a 1/2 hour with 75
minute hikes due to a knee injury. My weight is creeping up. I think I
need to do more interval training again.


Something I've been wondering about lately is whether the types of
exercise that help to lose weight are different than those that
support maintenance. I've also found that shorter, more intense
exercise helps more with weight loss. But I note that people who just
have generally more active lifestyles tend to be and remain slim. It
may be that just filling more of one's waking hours with moderate
activity is a fine way to maintain weight. I don't know, as I said --
just thinking about it.

Chris
262/151/ (145-150)
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Old June 9th, 2004, 04:04 PM
Dally
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Chris Braun wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 11:07:51 -0400, Dally wrote:

I found that revving up my metabolism really required NON-ENDURANCE type
workouts, i.e., interval training and intense free weights. Doing the
same thing over and over just convinced my body that it needed fat
stores to handle the long-hauls I was giving it. 8 years of sweatless
Nautilus circuits did nothing for me.



Something I've been wondering about lately is whether the types of
exercise that help to lose weight are different than those that
support maintenance. I've also found that shorter, more intense
exercise helps more with weight loss. But I note that people who just
have generally more active lifestyles tend to be and remain slim. It
may be that just filling more of one's waking hours with moderate
activity is a fine way to maintain weight. I don't know, as I said --
just thinking about it.


My thought is that everyone's body works a bit differently. All those
"long slow cardio" sessions really did nothing for me. Really. I had
been going to the gym without making any significant progress for most
of my adult life. It wasn't until I through out the "45 minutes in the
fat-burning zone" crap that I started to budge.

My theory is that I'm a woman who is just built for endurance. My body
can carry a baby for nine (or ten!) months. My body can walk all day.
Doing those sorts of things just made me store fat for the long-haul.

To turn myself into a "better butter burner" (Covert Bailey's term) I
needed to call upon my muscles to do intense things abruptly. That's
what changed me at a cellular level to have more enzymes for hauling fat
out of the cells and less enzymes dedicated to hauling fat into cells.

It was the intense exercise (combined with a low-glycemic way of eating)
that I think cured my insulin resistance.

But the really interesting thing is that I didn't actually change the
amount of time I was in the gym. In fact, I calculated once that I was
actually working out about 1/2 hour less a week. But the fat started
melting off of me.

Dally
244/about to weigh in, please let it be below 180/169

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Old June 9th, 2004, 06:06 PM
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"Dally" wrote in message
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My theory is that I'm a woman who is just built for endurance. My body
can carry a baby for nine (or ten!) months. My body can walk all day.
Doing those sorts of things just made me store fat for the long-haul.


Well, this speaks to the great myth of the fat burning zone. While yes, you
burn a greater percentage of fat at a slower, longer pace, if you push
yourself and go faster, you will burn more overall calories and more fat
calories in total. Who cares about the percentage if it's a percentage of a
smaller pie?!


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Old June 9th, 2004, 06:47 PM
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Lindsay Jauss wrote:

"Dally" wrote in message
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My theory is that I'm a woman who is just built for endurance. My body
can carry a baby for nine (or ten!) months. My body can walk all day.
Doing those sorts of things just made me store fat for the long-haul.


Well, this speaks to the great myth of the fat burning zone. While yes, you
burn a greater percentage of fat at a slower, longer pace, if you push
yourself and go faster, you will burn more overall calories and more fat
calories in total. Who cares about the percentage if it's a percentage of a
smaller pie?!



Althought that's a good point, too, my point is more that I'm not after
burning 60 extra calories today, I'm trying to become a person with a
healthy metabolism. Changing the way my body stores and burns fat 24
hours a day is my goal.

My body was not changed by long-slow cardio and a set of Nautilus. It
*was* changed (dramatically, I might add) by high intensity interval
training along with lifting heavy free weights. (I routinely squat over
100 pounds, for example of what I mean by heavy.)

Dally
244/177/169

 




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