Diet doubts over counting calories

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Diet doubts over counting calories

Counting calories may not be the best way to lose weight, researchers
have claimed.

A six-month study in America has found some calories cause people to
put on more weight than others.

The survey of 65 overweight and obese adults - 70% of whom had type 2
diabetes - found that those put on a moderate fat diet containing
almonds lost more weight than those on a low-fat diet without almonds.

But the total number of calories for both groups was the same.

And other factors such as protein intake were also maintained at equal
levels.

The waistline measurements of those on the moderate fat diet with
almonds fell by 14%, compared with 9% for the other group.

Fat mass figures also fell by 10% more in the group on the almond
diet.

The results - published in the International Journal of Obesity - cast
doubt on widely held beliefs about dieting.

It has long been assumed that a key to losing weight is cutting
calorie intake.

The study's lead researcher Dr Michelle Wien, from City of Hope
National Medical Centre in Duarte, California, said: "There may be
qualities in almonds that helped the first group lose more weight."

One possible explanation was that the fat in almonds may not have been
completely absorbed.


Story filed: 18:12 Thursday 6th November 2003

Duh. If you go by the logic that all you have to count
is calories, then 70 calories of Doritos are as good for
you as 70 calories of prunes. It doesn't take a brain
surgeon to see the garbage in that notion. I've been
saying this on this newsgroup for a long time now.

Don't just look at the calories, look at the nutritional
content.
Don't just count how many calories you will take in,
think about how you will burn them up.


Diarmid Logan wrote:

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm...ceanddiscovery

Diet doubts over counting calories

Counting calories may not be the best way to lose weight, researchers
have claimed.

Diarmid Logan wrote:
Diet doubts over counting calories
The waistline measurements of those on the moderate fat diet with
almonds fell by 14%, compared with 9% for the other group.

Barry Sears discusses this in "Enter the Zone". His theory is that
eating facts tells the body to burn fats for fuel. If you only eat
carbs, your body will be less prone to burn fats.

Other benefits of eating fats:

- Stimulate production of hormones that signal satiety
- Taste good
- Nuts are full of good vitamins etc

A little goes a long way though. I have a small handful (e.g. 12
almonds) of nuts before each meal, and no other fats except what comes
within other foods like lean meat.

Tim Josling

On 7 Nov 2003 07:50:24 -0800, (Diarmid Logan)
wrote:
Counting calories may not be the best way to lose weight, researchers
have claimed.
A six-month study in America has found some calories cause people to
put on more weight than others.

That, if true, just argues for counting calories differently.


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People are, of course, welcome to place whatever irrelevant
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bicker 2003 1NVAL1D wrote in message ...
On 7 Nov 2003 07:50:24 -0800, (Diarmid Logan)
wrote:
Counting calories may not be the best way to lose weight, researchers
have claimed.
A six-month study in America has found some calories cause people to
put on more weight than others.

That, if true, just argues for counting calories differently.

No, it suggests that counting calories does not work, period. Between
95 to 98% of those who try to lose weight by restricting fats and
calories fail to succeed.

TC

"tcomeau" wrote

No, it suggests that counting calories does not work, period. Between
95 to 98% of those who try to lose weight by restricting fats and
calories fail to succeed.

TC

Well gee, that makes me feel so special :-)

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On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:32:27 -0500, "SnugBear"
wrote:


"tcomeau" wrote

No, it suggests that counting calories does not work, period. Between
95 to 98% of those who try to lose weight by restricting fats and
calories fail to succeed.

TC

Well gee, that makes me feel so special :-)

Me too Laurie. Something tells me there are quite a few of us in the
other 2 to 5%
janice

hello all was wondering what type of diet plan everybody was on. i am new to
the group and am following weight watchers am starting back on the program
after being off of it for a month and half maybe a bit more. trying to get
some new ideas for meals to spice up my diet a little also in need of some
different exercises as well. i do my work out s at home because i can't
afford to join a gym right now although i would love to.

also i am new to this board as well

angie
"Tim Josling" wrote in message
...
Diarmid Logan wrote:
Diet doubts over counting calories
The waistline measurements of those on the moderate fat diet with
almonds fell by 14%, compared with 9% for the other group.

Barry Sears discusses this in "Enter the Zone". His theory is that
eating facts tells the body to burn fats for fuel. If you only eat
carbs, your body will be less prone to burn fats.

Other benefits of eating fats:

- Stimulate production of hormones that signal satiety
- Taste good
- Nuts are full of good vitamins etc

A little goes a long way though. I have a small handful (e.g. 12
almonds) of nuts before each meal, and no other fats except what comes
within other foods like lean meat.

Tim Josling





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On 11/8/2003 7:52 PM, tcomeau wrote:
bicker 2003 1NVAL1D wrote in message ...

On 7 Nov 2003 07:50:24 -0800, (Diarmid Logan)
wrote:

Counting calories may not be the best way to lose weight, researchers
have claimed.
A six-month study in America has found some calories cause people to
put on more weight than others.

That, if true, just argues for counting calories differently.


No, it suggests that counting calories does not work, period. Between
95 to 98% of those who try to lose weight by restricting fats and
calories fail to succeed.

Do you have a citation for that TC? I understand that that statistic is
true for all "diets" -- including Atkins and others that do not include
calorie counting.

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jmk in NC

In alt.support.diet Anglea Woollcombe wrote:
hello all was wondering what type of diet plan everybody was on. i am new to
the group and am following weight watchers am starting back on the program
after being off of it for a month and half maybe a bit more. trying to get
some new ideas for meals to spice up my diet a little also in need of some
different exercises as well. i do my work out s at home because i can't
afford to join a gym right now although i would love to.

I am not counting calories any more. Our ancestors didn't walk around
memorizing calories of everything because they ate "naturally", and
listened to their bodies and stopped when satiated. Calorie information
*needs* to be put on all kinds of crap food because it's well, a
manufactured product.

I've learned to listen to what my body naturally needs. I used to need
to count calories when I thought I'd go nuts without multiple helpings
of something. But now, I eat a meal, I am done. I just shop around the
perimiter of the grocery store.

Not that I don't have my vices... I do. They are just not daily staples
any longer.
cm
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Drop everything and do it my way