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Old October 6th, 2003, 01:33 PM
Jamie Johnson
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has anyone on here had gastric bypass surgery? or can anyone refer me to a
site where I could get unbiased information on the surgery?


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Old October 6th, 2003, 03:11 PM
Carol Frilegh
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In article , Ignoramus8053
wrote:

In article , Jamie Johnson wrote:
has anyone on here had gastric bypass surgery? or can anyone refer me to a
site where I could get unbiased information on the surgery?


I have not seen anyone on this newsgoup who had suc a surgery. We do
however have a few individuals (Jennifer Austin and Smokey) who lost
150-225 lbs and returned to normal or close to normal weight. What is
your weight and height? What makes you think that you need such a
surgery?

i
223/178/180


If she didn't think she needed it se probably wouldn't ask Iggy!
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Old October 6th, 2003, 03:26 PM
Jayjay
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On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 07:33:44 -0500, "Jamie Johnson"
wrote:

has anyone on here had gastric bypass surgery? or can anyone refer me to a
site where I could get unbiased information on the surgery?


Jamie,

You'll find that GB surgeries are not well received here. The bottom
line is, yes, you get the surgery, but you MUST alter your lifestyle
and eating habits in order to lose weight.

I recently read (but I can't recall where) that 2 our of 3 people who
have some sort of GB surgery fails. This happens because they think
the surgery is a cure all, but they don't learn that they must change
their eating habits and lifestyle in order to lose weight.

I think you'll be hard pressed to find a truely unbiased report on the
subject. Doctors who perform the surgeries will have thier biased
websites to promote it.


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Old October 6th, 2003, 06:07 PM
Jamie Johnson
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"Ignoramus8053" wrote in message
...
In article , Jamie Johnson wrote:
has anyone on here had gastric bypass surgery? or can anyone refer me to

a
site where I could get unbiased information on the surgery?


I have not seen anyone on this newsgoup who had suc a surgery. We do
however have a few individuals (Jennifer Austin and Smokey) who lost
150-225 lbs and returned to normal or close to normal weight. What is
your weight and height? What makes you think that you need such a
surgery?

i
223/178/180

I'm a 57 yr old female, 5'11" and weigh 409 lbs. Saw an orthopedic surgeon
friday and x-rays showed my knees are bone to bone. My blood pressure is
190/100..this particular physician felt I was a strong candidate for
surgery. He had deep concerns about my quality of life and how much longer
I could live with this weight. He also informed me I would be too heavy for
any knee replacements because at this weight I'd grind out the plastic used
in the replacement. I've tried to loose weight but have been unsuccessful..
I've had a chronic illness which led to my mobid obsesity beginning in 1991.
Up till then my weight was consistently around 140 - 150. Also, my primary
care physician is pushing the surgery due to the blood pressure which is not
being controlled by medication. Any input would be greatly appreciated.


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Old October 6th, 2003, 06:37 PM
Beverly
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"Jamie Johnson" wrote in message
...

"Ignoramus8053" wrote in message
...
In article , Jamie Johnson wrote:
has anyone on here had gastric bypass surgery? or can anyone refer me

to
a
site where I could get unbiased information on the surgery?


I have not seen anyone on this newsgoup who had suc a surgery. We do
however have a few individuals (Jennifer Austin and Smokey) who lost
150-225 lbs and returned to normal or close to normal weight. What is
your weight and height? What makes you think that you need such a
surgery?

i
223/178/180

I'm a 57 yr old female, 5'11" and weigh 409 lbs. Saw an orthopedic

surgeon
friday and x-rays showed my knees are bone to bone. My blood pressure is
190/100..this particular physician felt I was a strong candidate for
surgery. He had deep concerns about my quality of life and how much

longer
I could live with this weight. He also informed me I would be too heavy

for
any knee replacements because at this weight I'd grind out the plastic

used
in the replacement. I've tried to loose weight but have been

unsuccessful..
I've had a chronic illness which led to my mobid obsesity beginning in

1991.
Up till then my weight was consistently around 140 - 150. Also, my

primary
care physician is pushing the surgery due to the blood pressure which is

not
being controlled by medication. Any input would be greatly appreciated.


I've never checked into this type of surgery but it seems to be more common
in the past few years and I would imagine the procedures have been greatly
improved. Be sure you do as much research as possible and just remember
that the surgery alone will not permanently solve your weight problem.

I know a lady who had a similar type weight loss surgery a few years ago
and unfortunately she's gained everything back. Her problem was she
depended on the surgery to fix everything and didn't learn to change her
eating habits afterward. She was stuffing herself with M&M's shortly after
the surgery instead of eating a proper diet. Be sure you get into a
program that will teach you proper eating habits afterward.

Have you done a google on this subject? Maybe someone has posted some
sites there.
I hope you find the answers to your questions and I wish you the best of
luck. This site doesn't seem to be associated with any doctor.

http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health/nutr...ricsurgery.htm

Beverly



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Old October 6th, 2003, 06:54 PM
Chrys
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"Jamie Johnson" wrote in message
...
I'm a 57 yr old female, 5'11" and weigh 409 lbs. Saw an orthopedic

surgeon
friday and x-rays showed my knees are bone to bone. My blood pressure

is
190/100..this particular physician felt I was a strong candidate for
surgery. He had deep concerns about my quality of life and how much

longer
I could live with this weight. He also informed me I would be too heavy

for
any knee replacements because at this weight I'd grind out the plastic

used
in the replacement. I've tried to loose weight but have been

unsuccessful..
I've had a chronic illness which led to my mobid obsesity beginning in

1991.
Up till then my weight was consistently around 140 - 150. Also, my

primary
care physician is pushing the surgery due to the blood pressure which is

not
being controlled by medication. Any input would be greatly appreciated.


The thing to keep in mind is that getting the surgery means you have to
learn to change how you eat. The difference between surgery and modifying
your habits on your own is that with the surgery you undergo pain if you
deviate. In spite of that, many who get surgery still end up gaining a
lot of the weight back. I know you say you've tried to lose weight
before, but exactly what is it that you've tried? There can be some
substantial risks involved from major abdominal surgery and lasting health
problems as a result of getting the surgery done. Before doing something
so radical, there are options to lose weight quickly like medically
supervised liquid diets like a couple people here have done that won't
permanently impact your health like the surgery can do.

This is the story of someone on the Weight Watchers group who had the
surgery. While only a small fraction of people get problems like this,
it's something to keep in mind:

http://tinyurl.com/pwoe

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...ps.asp.att.net


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Old October 7th, 2003, 02:56 AM
Chris Braun
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On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:54:58 -0700, "Chrys" wrote:


This is the story of someone on the Weight Watchers group who had the
surgery. While only a small fraction of people get problems like this,
it's something to keep in mind:

http://tinyurl.com/pwoe


Wow! What an horrific story!

Chris

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Old October 7th, 2003, 01:59 PM
George
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On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:07:03 -0500, "Jamie Johnson"
wrote:


I'm a 57 yr old female, 5'11" and weigh 409 lbs. Saw an orthopedic surgeon
friday and x-rays showed my knees are bone to bone. My blood pressure is
190/100..this particular physician felt I was a strong candidate for
surgery. He had deep concerns about my quality of life and how much longer
I could live with this weight. He also informed me I would be too heavy for
any knee replacements because at this weight I'd grind out the plastic used
in the replacement. I've tried to loose weight but have been unsuccessful..
I've had a chronic illness which led to my mobid obsesity beginning in 1991.
Up till then my weight was consistently around 140 - 150. Also, my primary
care physician is pushing the surgery due to the blood pressure which is not
being controlled by medication. Any input would be greatly appreciated.


Well, your physician is correct in that you do need to lose weight.
Surgery may give you the start you need, however, I think it is
important that you be aware that surgery is not a cure. I think you
need to look into why all attempts at losing weight have been
unsuccessful for you, because, although the surgery will make it more
difficult for you to over-consume... people have managed to do so and
regain the weight lost after this sort of surgery.

Ultimately, you ARE going to have to watch what you eat. You should
probably also look into and consider some of the very low calorie,
doctor supervised liquid diets.

Whatever you opt for, be sure to get some kind of support for learning
how to eat properly and form new habits. As surgery won't take old
habits away.

Cynthia
262/238.5/200 first goal
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Old October 9th, 2003, 06:11 PM
Wendy
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Jayjay wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 07:33:44 -0500, "Jamie Johnson"
wrote:


has anyone on here had gastric bypass surgery? or can anyone refer me to a
site where I could get unbiased information on the surgery?


You'll find that GB surgeries are not well received here. The bottom
line is, yes, you get the surgery, but you MUST alter your lifestyle
and eating habits in order to lose weight.


It's not that GB surgeries are bad, it's that GB surgeries are needless in
the end. We know how to lose fat and can tell you. So, do you want to
know how to lose fat? I'm going to presume yes and tell you. :-)

The first thing to do is to figure out what specifically you are
doing wrong. That means logging everything you eat - morsals and snacks -
for a little while without changing your diet. A great tool for this is
www.fitday.com.

After logging for a while take a good look at your portion sizes. It
will probably be obvious what you should cut out: bakery goods and soda
should be LONG gone. But besides calorie levels, but pay special
attention to the carb/protein/fat ratios. If you are anything above 60%
carbs you need to really take a good close look at that.

You need exercise.

At 400 pounds you're going to have to plan exercise carefully. If I were
you I'd go to www.collagevideo.com and look over some exercise videos for
people who are mobility impaired. There's a whole series called "sit and
be fit" that are only about 22 minutes long. You can also do water
aerobics - those classes are filled with people with physical
limitations. My YMCA has a "personal fitness" program for people who are
not comfortable in gyms with a separate workout room with curtains on the
windows and fit people aren't allowed inside. It's big with cardio rehab
people - I see people in there with wheel chairs and oxygen tanks, too.

You have one thing going for you: you've got a bunch of muscle! You've
been hauling around 400 pounds - you've got quads to die for! So use that
to your advantage. Join a weight-lifting class or start doing Nautilus or
join Curves for Women or just get some dumbbells and the book "8 Minutes
in the Morning" and start to pump iron. It's a great way to get a
low-impact workout in - it's not as good for your heart as a cardio
routine, but it's just as good for fat loss. (BTW, my YMCA also has a
class for beginning weight-lifters that tends to be filled with senior
citizens. When I took it I was one of only two people under 40 (I know
this because the other "young" woman turned 40 while we were in the
class.) Lifting weights isn't for sweaty young men anymo it's a HUGE
benefit to you as an older woman. It's also a great way to start to
counteract insulin resistance.

It's entirely possible to reach the age of 57 without figuring out the
basic maintenance required for a human body, but you CAN learn. You
probably need to know more about healthy versus unhealthy fats and
carbs. Are you eating four or five meals a day? You ought to be. Are
you getting enough protein and nutrients? You ought to be.

If I were you I'd do some reading. A good book that's out recently is
Walter Willet's, "Eat, Drink & Be Healthy" that's a nice overview of the
current thinking on nutritional wellness. It's a rapidly evolving arena
and my advice for you is to get empowered to help yourself.

My other piece of advice is to stay here and tell us more. We're a
supportive bunch with a remarkable ability to lose fat and keep it off via
lifestyle changes. There are probably 20 of us here who've lost over 50
pounds - and many more who got things under control before they had 50
pounds to lose. I find this place to be both empowering and supportive.

Wendy
 




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