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  #11  
Old December 19th, 2006, 09:29 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.zen,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
That Guy
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Default Gastric bypass.


"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
ups.com...
That Guy wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
At 360 lbs, I want to start living again. I've tried dealing with
the
mental problems that result in consistent overeating, and after 20
years
I've made no progress. I guess I'll have the surgery.

Perhaps the following inspirational true story will help you overcome
the brainwashing that has resulted in your believing falsely that
"hunger is bad:"


http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

Where on earth did you come up with the idea that I believe "hunger is
bad"?


In the Holy Spirit, I know that you have been brainwashed to believe
that hunger is bad


You are so certain that you have the answer. Be careful, my friend.
Arrogance often masquerades as faith, even in the mind of the person from
whom it originates.



  #12  
Old December 19th, 2006, 09:37 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.zen,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
Dave K
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Posts: 8
Default Gastric bypass.


That Guy wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
ups.com...
That Guy wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
At 360 lbs, I want to start living again. I've tried dealing with
the
mental problems that result in consistent overeating, and after 20
years
I've made no progress. I guess I'll have the surgery.

Perhaps the following inspirational true story will help you overcome
the brainwashing that has resulted in your believing falsely that
"hunger is bad:"


http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

Where on earth did you come up with the idea that I believe "hunger is
bad"?


In the Holy Spirit, I know that you have been brainwashed to believe
that hunger is bad


You are so certain that you have the answer. Be careful, my friend.
Arrogance often masquerades as faith, even in the mind of the person from
whom it originates.


I'm just worried about what else the voices might be "telling him." ;-)

-DaveK

  #13  
Old December 19th, 2006, 10:37 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.zen,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Posts: 44
Default Gastric bypass.

That Guy wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
At 360 lbs, I want to start living again. I've tried dealing with
the
mental problems that result in consistent overeating, and after 20
years
I've made no progress. I guess I'll have the surgery.

Perhaps the following inspirational true story will help you overcome
the brainwashing that has resulted in your believing falsely that
"hunger is bad:"


http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

Where on earth did you come up with the idea that I believe "hunger is
bad"?


In the Holy Spirit, I know that you have been brainwashed to believe
that hunger is bad


You are so certain that you have the answer.


In the Holy Spirit, I simply know that you have been brainwashed to
believe that hunger is bad. This is happening to all of us daily. Few
know in their hearts that "hunger is good."

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love others a
little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

  #14  
Old December 19th, 2006, 11:00 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.zen,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
Dave K
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Posts: 8
Default Gastric bypass.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
That Guy wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
At 360 lbs, I want to start living again. I've tried dealing with
the
mental problems that result in consistent overeating, and after 20
years
I've made no progress. I guess I'll have the surgery.

Perhaps the following inspirational true story will help you overcome
the brainwashing that has resulted in your believing falsely that
"hunger is bad:"

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

Where on earth did you come up with the idea that I believe "hunger is
bad"?

In the Holy Spirit, I know that you have been brainwashed to believe
that hunger is bad


You are so certain that you have the answer.


In the Holy Spirit, I simply know that you have been brainwashed to
believe that hunger is bad. This is happening to all of us daily. Few
know in their hearts that "hunger is good."


You seem terribly invested in your viewpoint, so I don't know why I'm
saying this. But hunger is neither good nor bad. It's just something
that happens. What is important is our response to it.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love others a
little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love


  #15  
Old December 19th, 2006, 11:34 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.zen,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Posts: 44
Default Gastric bypass.

Dave K wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
At 360 lbs, I want to start living again. I've tried dealing with
the
mental problems that result in consistent overeating, and after 20
years
I've made no progress. I guess I'll have the surgery.

Perhaps the following inspirational true story will help you overcome
the brainwashing that has resulted in your believing falsely that
"hunger is bad:"

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

Where on earth did you come up with the idea that I believe "hunger is
bad"?

In the Holy Spirit, I know that you have been brainwashed to believe
that hunger is bad

You are so certain that you have the answer.


In the Holy Spirit, I simply know that you have been brainwashed to
believe that hunger is bad. This is happening to all of us daily. Few
know in their hearts that "hunger is good."


You seem terribly invested in your viewpoint, so I don't know why I'm
saying this.


It remains my choice to stay with the truth.

But hunger is neither good nor bad.


Actually, hunger is good.

It's just something that happens.


"Blessed are you who hunger now, for you will be satisfied." -- LORD
Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

What is important is our response to it.


Without GOD's blessing of hunger, we would die stricken with anorexia
nervosa.

Indeed, it is while hungry that we know we are not dying.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our neighbors a little
more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more dear neighbor Dave whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

  #16  
Old December 19th, 2006, 11:43 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.zen,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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  #17  
Old December 20th, 2006, 07:59 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.zen,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
That Guy
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Posts: 8
Default Gastric bypass.


"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
ps.com...
Dave K wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
At 360 lbs, I want to start living again. I've tried
dealing with
the
mental problems that result in consistent overeating, and
after 20
years
I've made no progress. I guess I'll have the surgery.

Perhaps the following inspirational true story will help you
overcome
the brainwashing that has resulted in your believing falsely
that
"hunger is bad:"

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

Where on earth did you come up with the idea that I believe
"hunger is
bad"?

In the Holy Spirit, I know that you have been brainwashed to
believe
that hunger is bad

You are so certain that you have the answer.

In the Holy Spirit, I simply know that you have been brainwashed to
believe that hunger is bad. This is happening to all of us daily. Few
know in their hearts that "hunger is good."


You seem terribly invested in your viewpoint, so I don't know why I'm
saying this.


It remains my choice to stay with the truth.



How do you know that what you believe is the truth. Please explain.



Without GOD's blessing of hunger, we would die stricken with anorexia
nervosa.


You just proved to me that you're not a doctor.


  #18  
Old December 20th, 2006, 08:42 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.zen,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 44
Default Gastric bypass.

That Guy wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Dave K wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:
At 360 lbs, I want to start living again. I've tried
dealing with
the
mental problems that result in consistent overeating, and
after 20
years
I've made no progress. I guess I'll have the surgery.

Perhaps the following inspirational true story will help you
overcome
the brainwashing that has resulted in your believing falsely
that
"hunger is bad:"

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

Where on earth did you come up with the idea that I believe
"hunger is
bad"?

In the Holy Spirit, I know that you have been brainwashed to
believe
that hunger is bad

You are so certain that you have the answer.

In the Holy Spirit, I simply know that you have been brainwashed to
believe that hunger is bad. This is happening to all of us daily. Few
know in their hearts that "hunger is good."

You seem terribly invested in your viewpoint, so I don't know why I'm
saying this.


It remains my choice to stay with the truth.



How do you know that what you believe is the truth. Please explain.


You remind me of Governor Pontius Pilate:

"What is truth?" -- Pontius Pilate (John 18:38)

"If you have to ask about the truth, HE is not with you." -- Holy
Spirit

Amen.

Without GOD's blessing of hunger, we would die stricken with anorexia
nervosa.


You just proved to me that you're not a doctor.


Instead, GOD has compelled you to be the proof that you have been
brainwashed to believe that hunger is bad just as Jolanna was...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp

.... but is no longer:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...b65b045a29778?

Fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not diabetes) that is of this
world:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

  #19  
Old December 21st, 2006, 01:38 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet.low-carb
Hollywood
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
That Guy wrote:
How do you know that what you believe is the truth. Please explain.


You remind me of Governor Pontius Pilate:


You remind me of, oh I dunno, the company involved in the landmark case
that essentially decided that lying was covered by the First
Ammendment.

"What is truth?" -- Pontius Pilate (John 18:38)


In a post-modern, deconstructionist world, truth is open to
interpretation.

"If you have to ask about the truth, HE is not with you." -- Holy
Spirit


I am curious. Can you give a scriptural (cannonical or apocryphal)
reference where the Holy Spirit (not God or Jesus) actually says
anything? I know that the HS inspired people to speak, kind of put them
in the zone when they needed to say something big, but generally, those
things are attributed to the speaker, not the spirit. If you're just
making stuff up that the Holy Spirit said to you, we call that "hearing
voices," and it's generally considered a symptom of deep psychosis.

Amen.


A-main.

You just proved to me that you're not a doctor.


He does this daily to hundreds. You are not the first who is convinced
he is not a doctor. Oddly, he is a doctor, though I think the term has
a false association with Quality that is proved false by Dr.
Chung-hole.

Instead, GOD has compelled you to be the proof that you have been
brainwashed to believe that hunger is bad just as Jolanna was...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp


So, Jolana ate some extra food and it made her hungry later.

... but is no longer:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...b65b045a29778?


Then, she controlled herself with the addition of two powerful drugs.
Where 2lb insanity enters the picture, I have no idea. I say insanity,
because you maintain (falsely) that it is not a diet. So, for lack of
other words, let's call it the 2PD-OMER Insanity. It's catchy that way.

Fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not diabetes) that is of this
world:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought


As I read this, for some reason, I kept thinking of Penthouse Forum.
Not for the ribald stories, but the implausibility of them. The
standard format is something like this:

"Dear Penthouse Forum,
I have read your magazine for years with great enjoyment, but never
thought I'd have anything to write you about. But the other day, I was
insert 500-2000 word completely unlikely story of sex with multiple
partners, "that full feeling", odd locations, and either a wistful
ending bemoaning the transience of it all or a hopeful ending looking
forward to repeat performances. "

At any rate, your tale of this superannuated, script free, ww2 vet,
while touching, has the same kind of dreamy, hopeful but likely BS,
feel to it. The rhythms of the text, the length of the story, the
progression of the narrative, all bear a striking resemblance to my
memory of Penthouse Forum.

Lastly, let's remember another portion of Mathew's testimony on the
Sermon on the Mount. The portion where Jesus suggested that the MEEK
are blessed, for they will inherit the earth. I do not discern one iota
of meekness in your manner Dr. Chung, so you will be left out of the
reward you think is coming to you. You might as well just pig out, and
put your food scale away. Without meek, you get zilch. And you sir, are
completely without meek.

-Hollywood, who will always think of Dr. Chung and Penthouse Forum
together.

  #20  
Old December 21st, 2006, 02:13 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.zen,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Posts: 44
Default Gastric bypass.

Convicted neighbor Hollywood wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
That Guy wrote:


How do you know that what you believe is the truth. Please explain.


You remind me of Governor Pontius Pilate:


"What is truth?" -- Pontius Pilate (John 18:38)


You remind me of, oh I dunno, the company involved in the landmark case
that essentially decided that lying was covered by the First
Ammendment.


Clearly you don't know.

Without GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, you will never know.

In a post-modern, deconstructionist world, truth is open to
interpretation.


Actually, truth is absolute.

"If you have to ask about the truth, HE is not with you." -- Holy
Spirit


I am curious.


Clearly, you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Can you give a scriptural (cannonical or apocryphal)
reference where the Holy Spirit (not God or Jesus) actually says
anything?


Have not written that the Holy Spirit speaks.

I know that the HS inspired people to speak, kind of put them
in the zone when they needed to say something big, but generally, those
things are attributed to the speaker, not the spirit.


Actually, when the Holy Spirit compels a person to speak, that person
credits the words to GOD.

If you're just
making stuff up that the Holy Spirit said to you, we call that "hearing
voices," and it's generally considered a symptom of deep psychosis.


In my continued ever closer walk with Christ Jesus, HE keeps me
completely well.

Amen.


A-main.

You just proved to me that you're not a doctor.


He does this daily to hundreds. You are not the first who is convinced
he is not a doctor. Oddly, he is a doctor, though I think the term has
a false association with Quality that is proved false by Dr.
Chung-hole.


Clearly, the truth is not with you.

Instead, GOD has compelled you to be the proof that you have been
brainwashed to believe that hunger is bad just as Jolanna was...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp


So, Jolana ate some extra food and it made her hungry later.


Not for those with discerning hearts:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/discern.asp

... but is no longer:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...b65b045a29778?


Then, she controlled herself with the addition of two powerful drugs.
Where 2lb insanity enters the picture, I have no idea. I say insanity,
because you maintain (falsely) that it is not a diet. So, for lack of
other words, let's call it the 2PD-OMER Insanity. It's catchy that way.


Clearly, you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit.

Fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not diabetes) that is of this
world:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought


As I read this, for some reason, I kept thinking of Penthouse Forum.
Not for the ribald stories, but the implausibility of them. The
standard format is something like this:

"Dear Penthouse Forum,
I have read your magazine for years with great enjoyment, but never
thought I'd have anything to write you about. But the other day, I was
insert 500-2000 word completely unlikely story of sex with multiple
partners, "that full feeling", odd locations, and either a wistful
ending bemoaning the transience of it all or a hopeful ending looking
forward to repeat performances. "

At any rate, your tale of this superannuated, script free, ww2 vet,
while touching, has the same kind of dreamy, hopeful but likely BS,
feel to it. The rhythms of the text, the length of the story, the
progression of the narrative, all bear a striking resemblance to my
memory of Penthouse Forum.

Lastly, let's remember another portion of Mathew's testimony on the
Sermon on the Mount. The portion where Jesus suggested that the MEEK
are blessed, for they will inherit the earth. I do not discern one iota
of meekness in your manner Dr. Chung, so you will be left out of the
reward you think is coming to you. You might as well just pig out, and
put your food scale away. Without meek, you get zilch. And you sir, are
completely without meek.

-Hollywood, who will always think of Dr. Chung and Penthouse Forum
together.


Your embarrassing yourself is an adverse reaction to the awesome power
of intercessory prayers made by the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ
lifting up to our heavenly Father those like you who have been
convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Hollywood whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

 




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