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Old May 17th, 2004, 06:18 AM
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I've come across this term "Planned Cheat" in the newsgroups - what do
people mean by this??

Wilson
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Old May 17th, 2004, 06:34 AM
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The runes were cast, the portents thundered and then wilson proclaimed:
I've come across this term "Planned Cheat" in the newsgroups - what do
people mean by this??



It means they plan on eating something they think they're not supposed
to. Perhaps they'll minimize the damage done (if any) by either
adusting before they eat it or after they eat it, or maybe they won't
adjust their plans at all.

It reflects a mindset that says that they're on a diet and the baggage
that implies.

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Old May 17th, 2004, 12:52 PM
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wilson wrote:
| I've come across this term "Planned Cheat" in the newsgroups - what do
| people mean by this??
|
| Wilson


It's like an alcoholic who says, "I'm going to have just a few beers next
Saturday." Then they end up in the drunk tank or rehab.
--
Peter


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Old May 17th, 2004, 01:31 PM
Jackie Patti
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revek wrote:

It reflects a mindset that says that they're on a diet and the baggage
that implies.


I don't think so. The term iself is unfortunate (who am I cheating
on?), but the notion of a very short vacation from low-carb makes sense
in a life-long WOE.

For me, the "planned" bit of it makes a big difference... that it's
planned is the very thing that doesn't make it feel like a "cheat" to
me. It's not about having a bad day, or giving in to cravings, but
about making room in my life for high-carb foods on occassion.

I personally do one meal once a month, which I find sufficient to add in
anything I have been particularly missing and/or to celebrate holidays
without having to be the low-carb spoilsport in the group.

For me, *knowing* that I am going to eat high-carb at Thanksgiving and
Christmas is a very different mindset than "getting carried away over
the holidays" which I think is much more likely to lead to binging.

I think the word "vacation" fits better than "planned cheat" though.
Vacation implies what it is... a short-term change that has little to do
with my daily, regular life.

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As you accelerate your food, it takes exponentially more and more energy
to increase its velocity, until you hit a limit at C. This energy has
to come from somewhere; in this case, from the food's nutritional value.
Thus, the faster the food is, the worse it gets.
-- Mark Hughes, comprehending the taste of fast food

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Old May 17th, 2004, 01:43 PM
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I don't think so. The term iself is unfortunate (who am I cheating
on?)


Yourself?

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 5'7" 265/202/140
& hubby- 6' 310/215/180
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Old May 17th, 2004, 02:27 PM
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This is a term used differently for most as I just read the responses so
far. I don't really lable it, but I have days were I will eat what I want
thrown in here and there. For example I was on a 60 mile bicycle ride
yesterday here in Pittsburgh and I ate sushi the night before and bananas
and carbs during the ride. That isn't LC and you could look at that as a
planned cheat. I also do this event that is 4 or so times a year. It is a
beer and cheese tasting. I do that, and it is a planned cheat. I don't
like to do that often, but there are things in life that I don't want to
give up all-to-gether. I look long term and don't worry about a day here
and there, but realize it can soon become normal eating if you don't watch
yourself.

That is just how I see it.
Curt

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211/182/180 . . 6'2" 15.78% BF?
Age 38
Highest weight 250 5+ years ago


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I've come across this term "Planned Cheat" in the newsgroups - what do
people mean by this??

Wilson



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Old May 17th, 2004, 02:36 PM
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Laura B. wrote:

wilson wrote:

I've come across this term "Planned Cheat" in the newsgroups - what do
people mean by this??

Wilson


For me it means taking 24 to 48 hours and eating regular food, then I
start right back up with LC.


why isn't low carb food regular food? i don't think there's anything
irregular about it.

i'm not trying to argue with you, Laura. i'm curious to know what your
rationale is.

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Old May 17th, 2004, 02:52 PM
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wilson wrote:

I've come across this term "Planned Cheat" in the newsgroups - what do
people mean by this??

Wilson


I see that term used frequently, and I dislike the term, as it sets up the
idea that a person is doing something wrong.

Before I continue I need to qualify with this NOTE: I am on low carb for
the purpose of reducing calories. This, aside from the fact that by
default, naturally low carb foods are healthier, is the only function of
low-carb which appeals to *me*. Low carb makes it easier than falling off
a log to decrease the frequency and volume of my intake, and takes the
brainwork away. YMMV.

There are some controlled-carb diets such as the CAD (Carbohydrate Addict's
Diet by Rachael and Richard Heller), which allows for a "planned cheat"
once per DAY. I started off with that WOE, actually, but found it didn't
decrease my cravings. I wound up dreaming day and night about what carb I
would have at my next "Reward meal" (that is the Heller's term for that one
meal). So I stopped doing that. I just mainly ate meat and green for a
long time, and had something higher carb every now and then, but only when
I seriously wanted it, and only one serving. Kind of like "CAD lite".

It's working for me because I know I can eat something different whenever I
want, and it's not a cheat.

Here's the catch: I no longer WANT these foods constantly, and 99% of the
time I am oblivious to their existence due to the self-contained craving
suppressants of my everyday meals. (Mostly protein, salad, vegetables, and
olive oil). So "whenever I want" is actually true LOL.

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Old May 17th, 2004, 02:53 PM
Jackie Patti
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LCer09 wrote:

I don't think so. The term iself is unfortunate (who am I cheating
on?)


Yourself?


But if "myself" has given "me" permission to do it, it's not a cheat.

You're not cheating if you use the textbook during an exam if the prof
says it's an open-book exam.

It's a different set of rules entirely for one meal, so there's no
"cheating" involved.

--
As you accelerate your food, it takes exponentially more and more energy
to increase its velocity, until you hit a limit at C. This energy has
to come from somewhere; in this case, from the food's nutritional value.
Thus, the faster the food is, the worse it gets.
-- Mark Hughes, comprehending the taste of fast food

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Old May 17th, 2004, 03:15 PM
Jackie Patti
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Crafting Mom wrote:

I wound up dreaming day and night about what carb I
would have at my next "Reward meal" (that is the Heller's term for that one
meal). So I stopped doing that. I just mainly ate meat and green for a
long time, and had something higher carb every now and then, but only when
I seriously wanted it, and only one serving. Kind of like "CAD lite".

It's working for me because I know I can eat something different whenever I
want, and it's not a cheat.


The "reward meal" language bothers me. The whole notion of food as a
reward bothers me, but specifically the idea of carbs being a "reward".

When I was a kid, if we got a good report card, we were allowed to go to
Friendlys and order whatever type of ice cream sundae we wanted as a
"reward".

The whole mindset is just wrong.

My first month having behaved myself both wrt to diet and exercise, I
went for a massage as a reward.

I buy cheapo flowers and or cut them when stuff around here is in bloom
as a reward.

I relax with a good movie or read a book as a reward.

Yesterday, I accomplished a lot... so gave myself a couple hours orr and
jammed to music as a reward.

I need non-food rewards in my life.

--
As you accelerate your food, it takes exponentially more and more energy
to increase its velocity, until you hit a limit at C. This energy has
to come from somewhere; in this case, from the food's nutritional value.
Thus, the faster the food is, the worse it gets.
-- Mark Hughes, comprehending the taste of fast food

 




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