Down Fall of Low Carb

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
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brother Mu wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 05:09:35 -0700, wrote:

If you're just don't
give a damn and
choose to eat bread and pasta, that strongly suggest to me that the
problem has little to do with what LC or regular foods are available
and a lot to do
with personal responsibility.

The simple fact is, it's well known that most dieters fail regardless
of what type of diet they are on.

Sounds like a food addiction to Mu. We don't talk much in society, food
and addicxtion in the same sentence much less right next to each other.
Why is that? Obesity kills like tobacco, alcohol, heroin...we talk about
those all the time.

What satanic force has overcome us?

Simply satan's three lies about hunger buried deep and festering in
the hearts of our souls:

(1) Hunger is a red warning light.

(2) Hunger means it is time to eat because of low food.

(3) Hunger sounds from the stomach is a warning buzzer.

The truths about hunger:

(1) Hunger is a green light of assurance.

(2) Hunger means all systems go, two thumbs up, and that you are being
blessed by GOD.

(3) Hunger sounds from the stomach are like the reassuring rumble
coming from a well-tuned high output engine.

Indeed, it is written that hunger is from GOD so that it is most
assuredly, without doubt, good:

"HE humbled you, causing you to hunger..." -- Moses (Deuteronomy 8:3)

"Blessed are you who hunger now for you will be satisfied." -- GOD
(Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

yep-hunger is so great man-ask this kid-damn,chungs god is such a nice
fellow-

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" writes:

If it's all so simple, why are so many people fat? Personally, like
many others I have found that if I tried to gradually reduce my
sugar from the level of the typical American diet, I'd have cravings
and be hungry most of the time. And that's one big reason it isn't
simple and doesn't work.

Agreed. I know several people who have told me, "I stopped drinking
soda, but I still have to have my pasta," or similar things. They're
hoping that cutting out 50% of their carbs will give them 50% of the
benefits, and they'll just lose weight at half the rate.

I'm torn, because I know that from a weight-loss standpoint, they're
wasting their time. Cutting your daily carbs from 300g to 150g or so
isn't going to spur any ketosis or glucagon production, and it's not
going to eliminate any cravings. On the other hand, it *is* a step in
the right direction and could improve their health in other ways, and
you never want to discourage someone who's trying.

So I try to say something that's encouraging, but honest, like, "Hey,
that's great! Soda is one of the hardest things to give up, and it's
loaded with sugar, so you're already over halfway there!" Then if
they ask me what I mean by that, I try to break the concept of ketosis
and the insulin/glucagon relationship gently to them.



--
Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

"When you get in bed with evil incarnate, it always takes the covers."
-- The Tick

brother Mu wrote:
On 30 Apr 2007 05:09:35 -0700, wrote:

If you're just don't
give a damn and
choose to eat bread and pasta, that strongly suggest to me that the
problem has little to do with what LC or regular foods are available
and a lot to do
with personal responsibility.

The simple fact is, it's well known that most dieters fail regardless
of what type of diet they are on.

Sounds like a food addiction to Mu. We don't talk much in society, food
and addicxtion in the same sentence much less right next to each other.
Why is that? Obesity kills like tobacco, alcohol, heroin...we talk about
those all the time.

What satanic force has overcome us?

On 2 May 2007 11:21:10 -0700, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Simply satan's three lies about hunger buried deep and festering in
the hearts of our souls:
(1) Hunger is a red warning light.
(2) Hunger means it is time to eat because of low food.
(3) Hunger sounds from the stomach is a warning buzzer.

The truths about hunger:

(1) Hunger is a green light of assurance.
(2) Hunger means all systems go, two thumbs up, and that you are being
blessed by GOD.
(3) Hunger sounds from the stomach are like the reassuring rumble
coming from a well-tuned high output engine.

Indeed, it is written that hunger is from GOD so that it is most
assuredly, without doubt, good:

There are two ways to explain the consistent misconceptions about food
or as I offered about the lack of commo in society about food addiction.
One is to say that it is a Satanic ploy foisted on the people by a real
and true Devil. I buy into this concept myself.

The other way to look at this rather unbelievable lack of discussion on
food as addictive is to study the black ops of the food and their
Brothers In Crime, the marketers of food. They use mostly suggestive
methods, tweaking truth with lie. The precursers were the tobacco
criminals, did they ever figure out the human checkpoints for behavioral
cpntrol or what?

The point being if it is Satan or mans inhumanity to Man, it is
calculated, effective and most of all, hidden underneath as if addiction
to food does not possibly exist.

Pat wrote:
I think olive oil's reputation is from it being a mono-unsaturated fat.

And being very tasty. And all the med. paradoxes. People don't just
get that fat is good for you and the sugar is the problem. Maybe in 30
years.

While I want to be slim, healthy, I also want an easy way to mainatin
my health and weight. I found after 12 years of dieting, finally a
very simple way, which most healthy slim people are doing, and yes
daily and all their life. I used to wonder why the slim people around
me could eat and not be fat. While it was so easy for me to put on
weight.

Whoa! Stop right there. I have a son who is 6'2" tall and weighs 150 pounds.
With him, it's genetic! He can eat anything he wants and not gain weight (
and he wants to gain weight). Me, on the other hand....I can sniff a bag of
Fig Newton's and gain 10 pounds.

Pat in TX

I think olive oil's reputation is from it being a mono-unsaturated fat.

Pat in TX

On Wed, 2 May 2007 17:11:04 -0600, "Pat" wrote:

While I want to be slim, healthy, I also want an easy way to mainatin
my health and weight. I found after 12 years of dieting, finally a
very simple way, which most healthy slim people are doing, and yes
daily and all their life. I used to wonder why the slim people around
me could eat and not be fat. While it was so easy for me to put on
weight.

Whoa! Stop right there. I have a son who is 6'2" tall and weighs 150 pounds.
With him, it's genetic! He can eat anything he wants and not gain weight (
and he wants to gain weight). Me, on the other hand....I can sniff a bag of
Fig Newton's and gain 10 pounds.

Pat in TX

nodding I know the feeling. My late sister rarely weighed more
than 120lb when not pregnant. At 5'7" this was really too light but
NOTHING, not even eating huge 'family sized' blocks of chocolate daily
or her usual coffee with cream and 3 sugars every two hours could make
her gain weight

Even on low-carb, I find it a struggle to drop (I have recently
diagnosed thyroid issues complicating the matter) and on any kind of
low-fat, high carb plan I cannot eat few enough calories to let me
lose weight. She and I used to joke that between us we made up one
normal metabolism.

I miss her.

Aramanth

Mu popped their head through the hatch and
pleaded:

There are two ways to explain the consistent misconceptions about food
or as I offered about the lack of commo in society about food addiction.
One is to say that it is a Satanic ploy foisted on the people by a real
and true Devil. I buy into this concept myself.

The other way to look at this rather unbelievable lack of discussion on
food as addictive is to study the black ops of the food and their
Brothers In Crime, the marketers of food. They use mostly suggestive
methods, tweaking truth with lie. The precursers were the tobacco
criminals, did they ever figure out the human checkpoints for behavioral
cpntrol or what?

The point being if it is Satan or mans inhumanity to Man, it is
calculated, effective and most of all, hidden underneath as if addiction
to food does not possibly exist
..

Mu, you're causing panic buying of tin foil. Please see your psychiatrist
immediately.

--
David Silverman AA#2208
"If you are informed by God, you can be misinformed by nobody" - Osama Bin
Laden

On May 2, 8:28 pm, "
wrote:
On May 1, 11:52 pm, XiaoZhen wrote:





On May 2, 12:57 am, Aaron Baugher wrote:

XiaoZhen writes:
What you have to do is follow a lifestyle that includes healthy and
natural food and some exercise. Healthy and natural food emcompasses
many, many foods. So it is actually quite simple to pick those foods
you like from this range. Some needs getting used to.
For example, if you are reducing your sugar intake, (which is fabulous
for losing weight and improving health), just start with a little less
sugar everytime. Sooner or later, you will find that a little sugar
actually tastes sweet to you and wonder why you could consume so much
in the past.


If it's all so simple, why are so many people fat? Personally, like
many others
I have found that if I tried to gradually reduce my sugar from the
level of the
typical American diet, I'd have cravings and be hungry most of the
time. And
that's one big reason it isn't simple and doesn't work.

Cutting any type of favourite food is not at all simple. In reducing
sugar intake, you can find substitutes. Some people go for artifical
sweeteners, which I think is chemical. I find healthy substitutes
like non starchy fruits and some low fat yoghurts and dark
chocolates. At least while taking in the sugar, there's something
good there.

Eat lean meat and lots of fibre to stop those cravings. It did for
me, and I don't even have to take much protein.


While I want to be slim, healthy, I also want an easy way to mainatin
my health and weight. I found after 12 years of dieting, finally a
very simple way, which most healthy slim people are doing, and yes
daily and all their life. I used to wonder why the slim people around
me could eat and not be fat. While it was so easy for me to put on
weight.


Whoa! Stop right there. I have a son who is 6'2" tall and weighs 150 pounds.
With him, it's genetic! He can eat anything he wants and not gain weight (
and he wants to gain weight). Me, on the other hand....I can sniff a bag of
Fig Newton's and gain 10 pounds.


It is the same with my son who is just 12, and 5'5" and weighs 110
pounds. While he can eat all he wants now that he is young and
growing, I don't think it will be so smooth sailing with him when he
is older and not so active. I have read so many real accounts of
Americans who are so, so slim whhen young and boom, it is so different
when they get to work, grow older, grow inactive...

I think it is important to start eating healthily when young, so it
becomes a lifestyle.

http://www.lowcarblowfathighfibrehig...n.blogspot.com

XiaoZhen wrote:
:: On May 2, 12:57 am, Aaron Baugher wrote:
::: XiaoZhen writes:
:::: Don't go for processed low carb. Read your labels!!!!! Often
:::: there are ingredients (such as fats and hydrogenated fats, and
:::: chemicals) included to make the product taste nice and look good.
:::
::: Hydrogenated fats are bad, but what's wrong with other fats?
:::
:::: Instead go for natural complex carbohydrates.
:::
::: Why?
:::
:::: Whether it is low carb, or high protein, or low fat, I go for as
:::: natural as I can. There are things we cannot do without.
:::
::: Yes, a certain amount of protein, a certain type of fat, and an
::: assortment of vitamins and minerals. There are no carbohydrates on
::: that list.
:::
:::: If I must buy processed food, I read the labels. For example, I go
:::: to multi grain bread instead of white or wholemeal bread. That's
:::: low carb to me.
:::
::: Then you might want to read the labels again. In some cases, the
::: "wheat" or "whole grain" version of a bread will have just as many
::: carbs as the white version, or even more. It's not low-carb just
::: because it's brown and has crunchy bits on top.
:::
:::: This way, you can stay low carb as long as you like.
:::
::: Yeah, good luck with that.
:::
::: --
::: Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz
:::
::: "Now, like all great plans, my strategy is so simple an idiot could
::: have devised it."
::
::
::
:: "If you stop eating jam, fruit starts to taste better." -- Paul
:: Graham
::
:: I second this.
::
::
:: Now. What is your purpose of going low carb, or any diet?
::
:: Mine is to lose weight and do it healthily, and improve my health
:: statistics. I certainly don't want to look "good" , ie slim,
:: skinny... and have lots of triglycerides and LDL cholestrol residing
:: happily in my body. No, no, don't tell me skinny people do not have
:: heart diseases. They do, but the incidence of having heart and heart
:: related problems rises with increased body weight.
::
:: While I want to be slim, healthy, I also want an easy way to mainatin
:: my health and weight. I found after 12 years of dieting, finally a
:: very simple way, which most healthy slim people are doing, and yes
:: daily and all their life. I used to wonder why the slim people
:: around me could eat and not be fat. While it was so easy for me to
:: put on weight.
::
:: What you have to do is follow a lifestyle that includes healthy and
:: natural food and some exercise. Healthy and natural food emcompasses
:: many, many foods. So it is actually quite simple to pick those foods
:: you like from this range. Some needs getting used to.
:: For example, if you are reducing your sugar intake, (which is
:: fabulous for losing weight and improving health), just start with a
:: little less sugar everytime. Sooner or later, you will find that a
:: little sugar actually tastes sweet to you and wonder why you could
:: consume so much in the past.
::
:: I believe that fats are essential for the normal functioning of the
:: body. So the question is what type of fats you want in your body?
:: Not all fats are good. People in the Mediterranean who follow a
:: mainly fish, vegetables and grain diet have one of the lowest
:: incidences of heart diseases. They do include chicken and beef and
:: of course cheese, diary products. Take a look at their food
:: pyramid. The main oil they use is the olive oil. We can conclude
:: that Olive oil is healthy oil. ( This is not the only healthy oil).
::
:: More in http://www.lclfhfhpmoreaboutsugars.blogspot.com
::
:: Reading labels will ensure that you buy what you want.
::
:: I am residing in Singapore. I am a Chinese and like only
:: occasionally Mediterranean foods. I like the many types of food,
:: Malay, Indian, Chinese, American, Indonesian food offered here. I
:: eat my favourites low carb, low fat, high fibre, high protein food
:: from this assortment.
::
:: When buying multi grain bread in Singapore, you will find that even
:: the best multi grain bread has a significant amount of simple
:: carbohydrates. So the other alternative is to bake your own, or buy
:: what is best out there. Look at the labels for the amount of grains
:: and the types.
::
:: On my label of multi grain bread :
:: Multigrain blend contains flax seeds, rolled oeats, purple wheat
:: flakes, rye flakes, triticale, sunflower seeds, soy grits, barley
:: flakes, millets, sesame seeds. whole spelt and quinoa.
:: And this is second on the list after enriched high protein flour.
:: The Carbohydrates is 37.8g per 100 g multigrain bread and dietary
:: fibre only 6.1g per 100g multi grain bread.
::
:: I do not take multi grain bread on a daily basis, but if I want to,
:: this is my best commercial choice for me.
::
:: I haven't found a low carb cookie yet, so I have made my own.
:: http//:www.lclfhfhpcookies.blogspot.com
::
:: There is so much more I can say .... I have written the important
:: points in my blog, with details of my weight loss and improved
:: cholestrol, triglycerides and blood pressure. I am now a 19 Asian
:: BMI.
::
:: http://www.lclfhfhphowigetthere.blogspot.com
:: http;//www.lowcarblowfathighfibrehighprotein.blogspot.com

Nothing wrong with losing weight and stuff....but please don't talk as if
all sknny people are healthy...you make it sound as if all one needs to do
is be slim to be health and that having any extra fat on your body makes you
not heathly. Fatness isn't the root cause of unhealthiness.

You sound as a shill for something...perhaps your blog...

The notion that good health comes from food is starting to be questioned
anyway...and natural foods can be anything but healthy.

Finally, low fat and low carb, high fiber and high protein? Are you the most
bored person on the planet? How long have you been eating this kind of
diet? Sounds as if you slap a slab of chicken breast between two peices of
wood. Yuck!

You can keep that......