Does the Adkins Diet work?

Does the Adkins Diet work?
My experiences with the Atkins diet.
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On Feb 14, 5:07 pm, "Lister" wrote:
Does the Adkins Diet work?
My experiences with the Atkins diet.http://www.helium.com/tm/145238/alwa...re-chair-front

Yes, Atkins really works! I tried it before and i'm on Atkins now for
2 days. I saw that you said there "If you can eliminate sufficient
amounts of bread, sweets, and other carb sources, it seems to work."
Well.. the thing with Atkins is that you have to eliminate ALL bread
and sweets for a start and reduce the carbs at maximum 20g/day.

I write in my blog ( http://dietmotion.com/ ) about my menus, my
progress and basic rules of the diet. Here ( http://dietmotion.com/the-
atkins-diet-the-rules-of-induction.html) is the induction phase that I
think you did it wrong and that's why you gained weight instead of
losing.
If I can be of any help, please ask!

You all take care!
Nessie

"Lister" wrote:

Does the Adkins Diet work?

Of course it works. If you actually follow the directions.

My experiences with the Atkins diet.
http://www.helium.com/tm/145238/alwa...re-chair-front

What you describe is not consistant with what is written in the
Atkins book. Please, if you never tried real Atkins don't claim you
did. It's nice that you did well on a generic low carb plan that
you designed for yourself so please call it that.

Sure...Atkins works but living on it at least for me was not what I wished
to do...I lost on Atkins but again I found in the real world there are many
wonderful and nutritious carbohydrates which I enjoy and which I believe to
be very healthy for me...For me a diet of all foods in moderation and a
consistent course of exercise has worked very well...The debate over Adkins
will continue...The fad has passed and I'm sure something new is on the
way...We each find our own way in life and it's really important to enjoy
the journey...Good luck...GG
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On Feb 14, 5:07 pm, "Lister" wrote:
Does the Adkins Diet work?
My experiences with the Atkins
diet.http://www.helium.com/tm/145238/alwa...re-chair-front

Yes, Atkins really works! I tried it before and i'm on Atkins now for
2 days. I saw that you said there "If you can eliminate sufficient
amounts of bread, sweets, and other carb sources, it seems to work."
Well.. the thing with Atkins is that you have to eliminate ALL bread
and sweets for a start and reduce the carbs at maximum 20g/day.

I write in my blog ( http://dietmotion.com/ ) about my menus, my
progress and basic rules of the diet. Here ( http://dietmotion.com/the-
atkins-diet-the-rules-of-induction.html) is the induction phase that I
think you did it wrong and that's why you gained weight instead of
losing.
If I can be of any help, please ask!

You all take care!
Nessie

All diets work in the same way. If they restrict calories to a point
where you are burning more than you eat, you will lose weight. If the
diet does this than it will work, if not you will fail. Whether or not
a diet is healthy is separate from whether or not it will work. If you
severely restrict calories to under 1200 per day, you will lose weight
but going this route is very unhealthy so be careful when reading
about these diets. Also beware of diets that limit you to one food.
Even if you are taking in a good amount of calories, you won't be able
to get all the vitamins, nutrients, fat, carbohydrates or protein from
just one type of food. For more information on how to lose weight,
visit http://straighthealth.com

Guide to Dieting - http://straighthealth.com/pages/guides/dieting.html
Diet/Fitness Forums - http://forums.straighthealth.com/

On Feb 15, 1:46 pm, " wrote:
All diets work in the same way. If they restrict calories to a point
where you are burning more than you eat, you will lose weight. If the
diet does this than it will work, if not you will fail. Whether or not
a diet is healthy is separate from whether or not it will work. If you
severely restrict calories to under 1200 per day, you will lose weight
but going this route is very unhealthy so be careful when reading
about these diets. Also beware of diets that limit you to one food.
Even if you are taking in a good amount of calories, you won't be able
to get all the vitamins, nutrients, fat, carbohydrates or protein from
just one type of food. For more information on how to lose weight,
visithttp://straighthealth.com

Guide to Dieting -http://straighthealth.com/pages/guides/dieting.html
Diet/Fitness Forums -http://forums.straighthealth.com/


My physician today said that a 1000 calories a day was great for me!
Actually, she was very encouraged by my weight loss in the last 6
weeks. She certainly doesn't see it as "severely" restricted.

Yours truly,

Caleb

Well,...there is no question you will lose on 1000 calories a day but for
what end...Unless you begin to learn the proper way to eat and to exercise
isn't it just another way of setting yourself up for failure...1000 calories
a day will always leave you wanting...In fact I think any nutritionist would
say that limiting your calories to 1000 a day is not in the long run
healthy...I don't know you at all but it seems this method is doomed to
failure...Have you been fighting this problem long?...GG
"Caleb" wrote in message
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On Feb 15, 1:46 pm, " wrote:
All diets work in the same way. If they restrict calories to a point
where you are burning more than you eat, you will lose weight. If the
diet does this than it will work, if not you will fail. Whether or not
a diet is healthy is separate from whether or not it will work. If you
severely restrict calories to under 1200 per day, you will lose weight
but going this route is very unhealthy so be careful when reading
about these diets. Also beware of diets that limit you to one food.
Even if you are taking in a good amount of calories, you won't be able
to get all the vitamins, nutrients, fat, carbohydrates or protein from
just one type of food. For more information on how to lose weight,
visithttp://straighthealth.com

Guide to Dieting -http://straighthealth.com/pages/guides/dieting.html
Diet/Fitness Forums -http://forums.straighthealth.com/


My physician today said that a 1000 calories a day was great for me!
Actually, she was very encouraged by my weight loss in the last 6
weeks. She certainly doesn't see it as "severely" restricted.

Yours truly,

Caleb

On Feb 15, 4:53 pm, "Gary G" wrote:
Well,...there is no question you will lose on 1000 calories a day but for
what end...Unless you begin to learn the proper way to eat and to exercise
isn't it just another way of setting yourself up for failure...1000 calories
a day will always leave you wanting...In fact I think any nutritionist would
say that limiting your calories to 1000 a day is not in the long run
healthy...I don't know you at all but it seems this method is doomed to
failure...Have you been fighting this problem long?...GG"Caleb" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Feb 15, 1:46 pm, " wrote:
All diets work in the same way. If they restrict calories to a point
where you are burning more than you eat, you will lose weight. If the
diet does this than it will work, if not you will fail. Whether or not
a diet is healthy is separate from whether or not it will work. If you
severely restrict calories to under 1200 per day, you will lose weight
but going this route is very unhealthy so be careful when reading
about these diets. Also beware of diets that limit you to one food.
Even if you are taking in a good amount of calories, you won't be able
to get all the vitamins, nutrients, fat, carbohydrates or protein from
just one type of food. For more information on how to lose weight,
visithttp://straighthealth.com

Guide to Dieting -http://straighthealth.com/pages/guides/dieting.html
Diet/Fitness Forums -http://forums.straighthealth.com/

My physician today said that a 1000 calories a day was great for me!
Actually, she was very encouraged by my weight loss in the last 6
weeks. She certainly doesn't see it as "severely" restricted.

Yours truly,

Caleb

Gary -- Well, at least weight can be lost with that. I've done that a
number of times and this time I believe the weight will stay off.

Again for me it's a matter of motivation. If I don't think that
dieting is likely to work within a reasonable timeframe, I probably
won't keep at it. This is true for many, many other people as well.

Can some people lose weight at a quarter pound a week? Probably, but
that rate of loss sure wouldn't cause my motivation to be high.

I had cited some literature from Australia that suggested that faster
weight loss was the way to go. I'm not going to disagree with that,
nor am I going to say that this is THE single way to lose weight, nor
that this is appropriate for everyone. But I'm not the kind of guy who
flosses after every meal.

Most people are simply unable to lose significant amounts of weight on
their own. If they take it off, they have a better chance of achieving
health. (And also as I have said, in a ten year period, if one is
overweight and hypertensive for 3 years then that is 7 years when the
person is healthier. That's not a bad goal -- not the best goal,
certainly, but not the worst goal possible.)

Yours,

Caleb

Here is the article again:

Asia Pac J Clin Nutr. 2006;15 Suppl:49-54. Links
State of the science: VLED (Very Low Energy Diet) for obesity.

* Delbridge E,
* Proietto J.

University of Melbourne, Department of Medicine(AH/NH),
Repatriation Hospital, Heidelberg, Victoria 3081, Australia,
.

It is often stated, "the faster you lose weight, the faster it is
regained ". A review of existing literature does not support such a
statement--indeed if anything the reverse is true. The origins of this
erroneous view are the misconceptions that weight regain is a simple
matter of bad dietary and social habits and that it takes time to
change these, that physiological adaptations to rapid weight loss are
different to those of gradual weight loss and that weight regain is
simply due to a return to old habits. Indeed there are many advantages
to rapid weight loss achieved with the use of a modern very low energy
diet, including the fact that rapid weight loss is a motivating
factor, that the mild ketosis that occurs not only suppresses hunger,
but also slows protein loss and that adherence is easier with a
structured dietary regime. VLEDs are dietary preparations that provide
all nutritional requirements together with between 1845 and 3280 KJ
(450 and 800 Kcal) per day. An individual takes this meal replacement
three times daily as a substitute for breakfast, lunch and dinner. In
addition, a bowl of non-starchy vegetables once daily provides some
fibre and helps to satisfy the social aspect of eating. A teaspoon of
oil on the vegetables contracts the gall bladder to minimise the risk
of gall stone formation. Since weight loss, at whatever rate, results
in physiological adaptations leading to weight regain, careful
attention must be paid to the period after the VLED regime is
completed. Lifestyle modification, diet and exercise are instituted
optimally with behaviour modification. If, despite the subject's best
efforts, weight regain occurs, an appetite suppressant is advisable to
help control the drive to eat.

PMID: 16928661 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

I understand what your saying,...but losing in my mind is not the real
challenge...The challenge is keeping it off...I lost 100's of pounds over
the years...Whatever I was doing became boring or was no longer as
satisfying...My weight loss had slowed or plateau...Then back I went...The
motivation in my mind must be a new way of eating...Something I can live
with forever...Do you think you can continue on 1000 calories a day for
life?...Weight loss doesn't happen overnight and losing takes a lot of time
as well...If you want to lose more a little quicker than exercise makes it
happen...I don't claim to know what works for anyone other than myself but
"diets" just never worked for me...GG
"Caleb" wrote in message
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On Feb 15, 4:53 pm, "Gary G" wrote:
Well,...there is no question you will lose on 1000 calories a day but for
what end...Unless you begin to learn the proper way to eat and to
exercise
isn't it just another way of setting yourself up for failure...1000
calories
a day will always leave you wanting...In fact I think any nutritionist
would
say that limiting your calories to 1000 a day is not in the long run
healthy...I don't know you at all but it seems this method is doomed to
failure...Have you been fighting this problem long?...GG"Caleb"
wrote in message

oups.com...

On Feb 15, 1:46 pm, " wrote:
All diets work in the same way. If they restrict calories to a point
where you are burning more than you eat, you will lose weight. If the
diet does this than it will work, if not you will fail. Whether or not
a diet is healthy is separate from whether or not it will work. If you
severely restrict calories to under 1200 per day, you will lose weight
but going this route is very unhealthy so be careful when reading
about these diets. Also beware of diets that limit you to one food.
Even if you are taking in a good amount of calories, you won't be able
to get all the vitamins, nutrients, fat, carbohydrates or protein from
just one type of food. For more information on how to lose weight,
visithttp://straighthealth.com

Guide to Dieting -http://straighthealth.com/pages/guides/dieting.html
Diet/Fitness Forums -http://forums.straighthealth.com/

My physician today said that a 1000 calories a day was great for me!
Actually, she was very encouraged by my weight loss in the last 6
weeks. She certainly doesn't see it as "severely" restricted.

Yours truly,

Caleb

Gary -- Well, at least weight can be lost with that. I've done that a
number of times and this time I believe the weight will stay off.

Again for me it's a matter of motivation. If I don't think that
dieting is likely to work within a reasonable timeframe, I probably
won't keep at it. This is true for many, many other people as well.

Can some people lose weight at a quarter pound a week? Probably, but
that rate of loss sure wouldn't cause my motivation to be high.

I had cited some literature from Australia that suggested that faster
weight loss was the way to go. I'm not going to disagree with that,
nor am I going to say that this is THE single way to lose weight, nor
that this is appropriate for everyone. But I'm not the kind of guy who
flosses after every meal.

Most people are simply unable to lose significant amounts of weight on
their own. If they take it off, they have a better chance of achieving
health. (And also as I have said, in a ten year period, if one is
overweight and hypertensive for 3 years then that is 7 years when the
person is healthier. That's not a bad goal -- not the best goal,
certainly, but not the worst goal possible.)

Yours,

Caleb

Here is the article again:

Asia Pac J Clin Nutr. 2006;15 Suppl:49-54. Links
State of the science: VLED (Very Low Energy Diet) for obesity.

* Delbridge E,
* Proietto J.

University of Melbourne, Department of Medicine(AH/NH),
Repatriation Hospital, Heidelberg, Victoria 3081, Australia,
.

It is often stated, "the faster you lose weight, the faster it is
regained ". A review of existing literature does not support such a
statement--indeed if anything the reverse is true. The origins of this
erroneous view are the misconceptions that weight regain is a simple
matter of bad dietary and social habits and that it takes time to
change these, that physiological adaptations to rapid weight loss are
different to those of gradual weight loss and that weight regain is
simply due to a return to old habits. Indeed there are many advantages
to rapid weight loss achieved with the use of a modern very low energy
diet, including the fact that rapid weight loss is a motivating
factor, that the mild ketosis that occurs not only suppresses hunger,
but also slows protein loss and that adherence is easier with a
structured dietary regime. VLEDs are dietary preparations that provide
all nutritional requirements together with between 1845 and 3280 KJ
(450 and 800 Kcal) per day. An individual takes this meal replacement
three times daily as a substitute for breakfast, lunch and dinner. In
addition, a bowl of non-starchy vegetables once daily provides some
fibre and helps to satisfy the social aspect of eating. A teaspoon of
oil on the vegetables contracts the gall bladder to minimise the risk
of gall stone formation. Since weight loss, at whatever rate, results
in physiological adaptations leading to weight regain, careful
attention must be paid to the period after the VLED regime is
completed. Lifestyle modification, diet and exercise are instituted
optimally with behaviour modification. If, despite the subject's best
efforts, weight regain occurs, an appetite suppressant is advisable to
help control the drive to eat.

PMID: 16928661 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

On Feb 16, 6:41 am, "Gary G" wrote:
I understand what your saying,...but losing in my mind is not the real
challenge...The challenge is keeping it off...I lost 100's of pounds over
the years...Whatever I was doing became boring or was no longer as
satisfying...My weight loss had slowed or plateau...Then back I went...The
motivation in my mind must be a new way of eating...Something I can live
with forever...Do you think you can continue on 1000 calories a day for
life?...Weight loss doesn't happen overnight and losing takes a lot of time
as well...If you want to lose more a little quicker than exercise makes it
happen...I don't claim to know what works for anyone other than myself but
"diets" just never worked for me...GG"Caleb" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Feb 15, 4:53 pm, "Gary G" wrote:
Well,...there is no question you will lose on 1000 calories a day but for
what end...Unless you begin to learn the proper way to eat and to
exercise
isn't it just another way of setting yourself up for failure...1000
calories
a day will always leave you wanting...In fact I think any nutritionist
would
say that limiting your calories to 1000 a day is not in the long run
healthy...I don't know you at all but it seems this method is doomed to
failure...Have you been fighting this problem long?...GG"Caleb"
wrote in message

groups.com...

On Feb 15, 1:46 pm, " wrote:
All diets work in the same way. If they restrict calories to a point
where you are burning more than you eat, you will lose weight. If the
diet does this than it will work, if not you will fail. Whether or not
a diet is healthy is separate from whether or not it will work. If you
severely restrict calories to under 1200 per day, you will lose weight
but going this route is very unhealthy so be careful when reading
about these diets. Also beware of diets that limit you to one food.
Even if you are taking in a good amount of calories, you won't be able
to get all the vitamins, nutrients, fat, carbohydrates or protein from
just one type of food. For more information on how to lose weight,
visithttp://straighthealth.com

Guide to Dieting -http://straighthealth.com/pages/guides/dieting.html
Diet/Fitness Forums -http://forums.straighthealth.com/

My physician today said that a 1000 calories a day was great for me!
Actually, she was very encouraged by my weight loss in the last 6
weeks. She certainly doesn't see it as "severely" restricted.

Yours truly,

Caleb

Gary -- Well, at least weight can be lost with that. I've done that a
number of times and this time I believe the weight will stay off.

Again for me it's a matter of motivation. If I don't think that
dieting is likely to work within a reasonable timeframe, I probably
won't keep at it. This is true for many, many other people as well.

Can some people lose weight at a quarter pound a week? Probably, but
that rate of loss sure wouldn't cause my motivation to be high.

I had cited some literature from Australia that suggested that faster
weight loss was the way to go. I'm not going to disagree with that,
nor am I going to say that this is THE single way to lose weight, nor
that this is appropriate for everyone. But I'm not the kind of guy who
flosses after every meal.

Most people are simply unable to lose significant amounts of weight on
their own. If they take it off, they have a better chance of achieving
health. (And also as I have said, in a ten year period, if one is
overweight and hypertensive for 3 years then that is 7 years when the
person is healthier. That's not a bad goal -- not the best goal,
certainly, but not the worst goal possible.)

Yours,

Caleb

Here is the article again:

Asia Pac J Clin Nutr. 2006;15 Suppl:49-54. Links
State of the science: VLED (Very Low Energy Diet) for obesity.

* Delbridge E,
* Proietto J.

University of Melbourne, Department of Medicine(AH/NH),
Repatriation Hospital, Heidelberg, Victoria 3081, Australia,
.

It is often stated, "the faster you lose weight, the faster it is
regained ". A review of existing literature does not support such a
statement--indeed if anything the reverse is true. The origins of this
erroneous view are the misconceptions that weight regain is a simple
matter of bad dietary and social habits and that it takes time to
change these, that physiological adaptations to rapid weight loss are
different to those of gradual weight loss and that weight regain is
simply due to a return to old habits. Indeed there are many advantages
to rapid weight loss achieved with the use of a modern very low energy
diet, including the fact that rapid weight loss is a motivating
factor, that the mild ketosis that occurs not only suppresses hunger,
but also slows protein loss and that adherence is easier with a
structured dietary regime. VLEDs are dietary preparations that provide
all nutritional requirements together with between 1845 and 3280 KJ
(450 and 800 Kcal) per day. An individual takes this meal replacement
three times daily as a substitute for breakfast, lunch and dinner. In
addition, a bowl of non-starchy vegetables once daily provides some
fibre and helps to satisfy the social aspect of eating. A teaspoon of
oil on the vegetables contracts the gall bladder to minimise the risk
of gall stone formation. Since weight loss, at whatever rate, results
in physiological adaptations leading to weight regain, careful
attention must be paid to the period after the VLED regime is
completed. Lifestyle modification, diet and exercise are instituted
optimally with behaviour modification. If, despite the subject's best
efforts, weight regain occurs, an appetite suppressant is advisable to
help control the drive to eat.

PMID: 16928661 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Gary -- Different strokes! A lousy analogy just came to me right now
-- if you want to clean a house, first you have to open the door. I
think weight loss allows you to open the door and, at the same time,
allows you the possibility of making improvements.

1000 calories a day (or a bit more) will be my goal for the next
several months or so. In part I think this toughens my skin a bit and
I am aware that if I miss a meal or two -- or even a day of eating --
it's not going to hurt me one bit. (I grew up in rocky soil and we
didn't wear shoes in a little town called Olaa south of Hilo, Hawaii.
Now it's called Keau. Our feet got to be pretty darned tough. But
after many years of wearing shoes, the calluses have gone away. We
Americans have very few calluses when it comes to denying ourselves
calories.)

And again, certainly this should not be the goal of anyone else -- but
it sure doesn't seem an unhealthy goal for people, especially if their
PCP (who knows their condition) says to go for it!

Yours,

Caleb