hitting the bottom and bouncing back up

"Jennifer A" wrote in message
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"Wendy" wrote in message
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Ignoramus909 wrote:
I see you and maybe Crafting mom as two people most likely to keep
their weight success for a long time (10 years or so), solely due to
your attitude towards yourselves. I hope that I have a decent chance
also, maybe 55-60%.

Thanks for the compliment. (Yes, I got the provision that you aren't
discussing the people already at goal.) It's nice to have people
believe
in you, even if it shouldn't matter.

The problem is - and perhaps the reason Jenn jumped on you - is that
it's
not always appropriate to bring up how slim a person's chances are -
sitting around naysaying isn't helpful. We live in awareness of the
problems, and Jenn was quite clearly airing potential problems. We know
they exist. More helpful (and more worth reading) are stories like,
"yeah, I know, this is how I dealt with that."

Wendy

Didn't see that whole post because of the kf (which I update daily to
accomodate name changes), so I'm not sure why *I'm* being discussed. But,
just to clear things up, I am very aware of my problems and the
difficulties
they bring to the table. I've never once said that they are going to stop
me from keeping off my weight. I know that I need to get over them and
move
on with life but gee, I don't have a magic 24 hour cure like some people
(wasn't referring to Wendy). It's a process and I'm processing

Believe it or not, I'm not an idiot. I don't need to be treated like one
by
someone who thinks they know everything about me by some newsgroup posts
(still not referring to Wendy). Funny how the people in my real life who
actually *do* know me understand the MAJOR life changes I've undergone in
order to be successful this time and completely believe in my long-term
success. Genuine thanks to you Wendy for the helpful support.
--
Jenn
300/144 (HMR) in maintenance since 10/28/03
Living well is the best revenge

I didn't see the idiot's post either. It was inappropriate of him to comment
on anyone's rate of success. The guy knows zilch of anything anyone talks
about. He doesn't even know what rhubarb is, yet feels it's necessary to
comment on it. Doesn't that say it all?

Martha
Dried fruit has lots of sugar!

Ignoramus909 wrote:

I see you and maybe Crafting mom as two people most likely to keep
their weight success for a long time (10 years or so), solely due to
your attitude towards yourselves. I hope that I have a decent chance
also, maybe 55-60%.

I also believe I won't gain my weight back, and that when I do gain a
small amount (like I did recently), I'll be on top of it ready to nip it
in the bud (like I am doing now). Seeing myself today, as compared to 2
years ago, is enough inspiration. I'm of the belief that quick fix
diets are set up for failure, but a "way of life" change that is a bit
flexible, can help one stay on track.

I never want to weigh that much again. And it's all up to me and what I
choose to eat. And it's never going to come *close* to the way I
*used* to eat, that's for darn sure.

cm

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Drop everything and do it my way

LOL....

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"Jennifer A" wrote in message
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"MH" wrote in message
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I didn't see the idiot's post either. It was inappropriate of him to
comment
on anyone's rate of success. The guy knows zilch of anything anyone
talks
about. He doesn't even know what rhubarb is, yet feels it's necessary to
comment on it. Doesn't that say it all?

Martha
Dried fruit has lots of sugar!



Careful there, pointing out actual real life examples & fact only
demonstrates your obvious emotional problems.

Jenn

"Wendy" wrote in message
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Jennifer A wrote:
Believe it or not, I'm not an idiot. I don't need to be treated like
one by
someone who thinks they know everything about me by some newsgroup posts
(still not referring to Wendy). Funny how the people in my real life
who
actually *do* know me understand the MAJOR life changes I've undergone
in
order to be successful this time and completely believe in my long-term
success. Genuine thanks to you Wendy for the helpful support.

You're welcome. I'm glad to see you came back from your road trip in such
a good frame of mind.

Wendy

Amazing what a few days of learning you really can trust your body to tell
you what's right can do for the mind and the soul. Now I need to
internalize it

--
Jenn
300/144 (HMR) in maintenance since 10/28/03
Living well is the best revenge

"George" wrote in message
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On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:04:35 -0600, "Perple Gyrl"
wrote:

Interesting - I've often wondered if it wouldn't be easier to resist
bingeing if I was at my goal rather than on the way to it. Not just
that there's more to lose (or rather to regain!). There's a strong
element of my binge behaviour that is like "the condemned man's last
meal" - that is, I know I'm going to have to get back on track but
while I'm "allowing" myself to eat everything, why don't I just let
myself have one more day and then I'll go back to my WOE. Of course,
one day turns into two and so on, and we all know where that leads.
This is one of the reasons I believe that, for me at least, too rigid
dieting isn't the way to stop bingeing.
janice


For me, and many obese people, not being rigid will set us up for
failure.
If I am given too many choices, it will be hard for me. I can't speak
for
Jennifer though....



I find if I'm locked into rigid choices, I get bored quick and then
lapse. If I'm not locked in, I allow myself an occasional treat and
then get back on board with my plan. It seems to work better for me
that way. Usually, I don't like the treat as well as I thought I would
and won't bother with it again for months.


Cynthia
262/234.0/200 first goal

I like having some choice but I also have some restrictions that I'm just
starting to get used to. I'm avoiding refined carbs, high fats, sugar, and
any fast food except for salads, and grilled stuff. It's a new WOE for me
and will take getting used to. I just know that if I started eating that
stuff again, even in any kind of moderation, it would eventually get out of
control, even if it wasn't physically or mentally satisfying at the time. I
just know that about me and that's good. I'm finding ways to treat myself t
hat either don't involve food or involve healthy foods that are done well

--
Jenn
300/144 (HMR) in maintenance since 10/28/03
Living well is the best revenge

"George" wrote in message
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Logging is a necessity for me. That way, if I veer off track... I see
it. Worse, I see just what it costs me in calories and carbs and fat.
That in itself is a deterrent.

Cynthia
262/234.0/200 first goal

I also need to log. I've always been very successful while logging. The
only difference is now I'm logging the details at the end of the day rather
than throughout the day like before deciding when or what to eat. I found
the last few days I'm not even eating as much as I was but feeling more
satisfied. Tonight I did eat a bit extra. I was hungry and I also wanted
to stock up an extra 100-200 calories for tomorrow's run. Tomorrow morning
I'm planning on oatmeal, yogurt, peanut butter, and fruit for breakfast a
few hours before the race and a shake an hour before the race.

If the scale starts creeping back up, I'll eat lighter until the trend
reverses. Even if the scale doesn't creep up, I'll be eating lighter just
because it's physically uncomfortable to eat this much.
--
Jenn
300/144 (HMR) in maintenance since 10/28/03
Living well is the best revenge

"MH" wrote in message
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I didn't see the idiot's post either. It was inappropriate of him to
comment
on anyone's rate of success. The guy knows zilch of anything anyone talks
about. He doesn't even know what rhubarb is, yet feels it's necessary to
comment on it. Doesn't that say it all?

Martha
Dried fruit has lots of sugar!



Careful there, pointing out actual real life examples & fact only
demonstrates your obvious emotional problems.

Jenn

"Jennifer A" wrote in message
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"MH" wrote in message
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I didn't see the idiot's post either. It was inappropriate of him to
comment
on anyone's rate of success. The guy knows zilch of anything anyone
talks
about. He doesn't even know what rhubarb is, yet feels it's necessary to
comment on it. Doesn't that say it all?

Martha
Dried fruit has lots of sugar!



Careful there, pointing out actual real life examples & fact only
demonstrates your obvious emotional problems.

Jenn

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Martha

"Crafting Mom" wrote

I never want to weigh that much again. And it's all up to me and what I
choose to eat. And it's never going to come *close* to the way I
*used* to eat, that's for darn sure.

cm

--
Drop everything and do it my way

No! MY way! neener neener ;-)

I know what you mean! For instance, now when I have my cup of pasta with
another cup of zucchini, a little sauce, a small link of Italian sausage and
a lovely salad w/ ff dressing and some green beans, I am dumbfounded to
remember that I used to have 2 big bowls of pasta, 2 sausages and a couple
slices of bread with butter. I also would have had the salad but with lots
of blue cheese dressing. I truly would be sick if I tried that now. Who
was that other person?

(can you tell we're having rigatoni tonight?)

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Walking on . . .
Laurie in Maine
207/110 60 inches of attitude!
Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03