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Old December 7th, 2004, 02:50 AM
mikan
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Default How about eating Japanese food?

I want to go on a diet.
But I really like chocolate, ice-cream ,cookies, and cheese-cakes.
I think I should get less calories.
So I have just begun to eat traditional Japanese food.
What do you think ?
Has anyone tried to go on adiet with Japanese food?
Please advise me.

Thank you very much.

Mikan
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Old December 7th, 2004, 03:50 AM
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mikan wrote:

I want to go on a diet.
But I really like chocolate, ice-cream ,cookies, and cheese-cakes.
I think I should get less calories.
So I have just begun to eat traditional Japanese food.
What do you think ?
Has anyone tried to go on adiet with Japanese food?
Please advise me.

Thank you very much.

Mikan



I believe Japanese people have used Japanese food as diets of various
sorts. They tend to be skinny, before Western foods got into thier
lifestyles.

Some have called the Japanese diet a grand example of a low fat, high
carb diet that the American Heart Association could applaud.

In fact, Dr. Ansel Keyes pointed to the Asian diets low in fats and
high in starches as proof positive of the slimness that is intrinsic to
such diets.

Dr Keyes didn't point out that most of the asians who ate such diets
worked at fairly substantial physical labor and got tons of exercise
along with the low fat, high starch diet.

Americans on a low fat, high starch diet and NO EXERCISE or HARD LABOR
can easily get quite plump.

If you don't eat too much of it, you will probably lose weight.

If you WORK physically hard and eat the Japanese diet, you will probably
thin down quite a lot. Sorry about that profane four letter word, work.

You can overdose on endless rice, but that would be somewhat American,
rather than Japanese, I think.

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Old December 7th, 2004, 08:28 AM
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jbuch wrote:

mikan wrote:

I want to go on a diet.
But I really like chocolate, ice-cream ,cookies, and cheese-cakes.
I think I should get less calories.
So I have just begun to eat traditional Japanese food.
What do you think ?
Has anyone tried to go on adiet with Japanese food?
Please advise me.

Thank you very much.

Mikan




I believe Japanese people have used Japanese food as diets of various
sorts. They tend to be skinny, before Western foods got into thier
lifestyles.

Some have called the Japanese diet a grand example of a low fat, high
carb diet that the American Heart Association could applaud.

In fact, Dr. Ansel Keyes pointed to the Asian diets low in fats and
high in starches as proof positive of the slimness that is intrinsic to
such diets.

Dr Keyes didn't point out that most of the asians who ate such diets
worked at fairly substantial physical labor and got tons of exercise
along with the low fat, high starch diet.

Americans on a low fat, high starch diet and NO EXERCISE or HARD LABOR
can easily get quite plump.


Many Japanese on traditional diets are not involved in intensive labor
and are still very low in body fat.

The biggest difference is that traditional Japanese diets have almost no
meat other than seafood. Certainly very little red meat. They savour
their food, and spend as much preparation time with the appearance of
the food as they do in making it edible. They eat slowly compared to
Westerners and make a meal an enjoyable social ceremony. They drink tea
and broth style soups with their food, and do not tend to overeat. On
several occasions when I have spent time in Japan and eaten traditional
food, I have always lost a little weight.

I am eating a considerable amount of Japanese food at the moment (for
carbs before exercise) and am still having difficulty regaining weight.
I doubt that I could very easily gain weight on traditional Japanese
food if it was all I ate. Rice only has 129 odd calories per hundred
grams and 28 grams carb, about the same as low carb bread and when eaten
with any kind of fat, is slow to raise blood glucose. I could eat a kilo
(2.2 lbs) of rice per day, along with seafood (as in Sushi) and a few
vegetables, seasonings etc., and still be well under my 2000 calories
per day minimum target, although it would be too high in carbs (for my
blood glucose, not my weight). Peanuts and some red wine are what bring
my calorie count up.

Come to think of it, I drink at least one and a half litres per day of
green tea, (5 or 6 275ml mugs). An old habit picked up while living in
various parts of Asia.

Japanese food (traditional) doesn't put weight on, but for many people,
it is difficult to acquire a taste for it.


If you don't eat too much of it, you will probably lose weight.

If you WORK physically hard and eat the Japanese diet, you will probably
thin down quite a lot. Sorry about that profane four letter word, work.

You can overdose on endless rice, but that would be somewhat American,
rather than Japanese, I think.


It isn't endless rice, it is rice prepared in many ways, with
innumerable varieties of flavours and seasonings.


Regards

David


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Old December 7th, 2004, 08:28 AM
J. David Anderson
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jbuch wrote:

mikan wrote:

I want to go on a diet.
But I really like chocolate, ice-cream ,cookies, and cheese-cakes.
I think I should get less calories.
So I have just begun to eat traditional Japanese food.
What do you think ?
Has anyone tried to go on adiet with Japanese food?
Please advise me.

Thank you very much.

Mikan




I believe Japanese people have used Japanese food as diets of various
sorts. They tend to be skinny, before Western foods got into thier
lifestyles.

Some have called the Japanese diet a grand example of a low fat, high
carb diet that the American Heart Association could applaud.

In fact, Dr. Ansel Keyes pointed to the Asian diets low in fats and
high in starches as proof positive of the slimness that is intrinsic to
such diets.

Dr Keyes didn't point out that most of the asians who ate such diets
worked at fairly substantial physical labor and got tons of exercise
along with the low fat, high starch diet.

Americans on a low fat, high starch diet and NO EXERCISE or HARD LABOR
can easily get quite plump.


Many Japanese on traditional diets are not involved in intensive labor
and are still very low in body fat.

The biggest difference is that traditional Japanese diets have almost no
meat other than seafood. Certainly very little red meat. They savour
their food, and spend as much preparation time with the appearance of
the food as they do in making it edible. They eat slowly compared to
Westerners and make a meal an enjoyable social ceremony. They drink tea
and broth style soups with their food, and do not tend to overeat. On
several occasions when I have spent time in Japan and eaten traditional
food, I have always lost a little weight.

I am eating a considerable amount of Japanese food at the moment (for
carbs before exercise) and am still having difficulty regaining weight.
I doubt that I could very easily gain weight on traditional Japanese
food if it was all I ate. Rice only has 129 odd calories per hundred
grams and 28 grams carb, about the same as low carb bread and when eaten
with any kind of fat, is slow to raise blood glucose. I could eat a kilo
(2.2 lbs) of rice per day, along with seafood (as in Sushi) and a few
vegetables, seasonings etc., and still be well under my 2000 calories
per day minimum target, although it would be too high in carbs (for my
blood glucose, not my weight). Peanuts and some red wine are what bring
my calorie count up.

Come to think of it, I drink at least one and a half litres per day of
green tea, (5 or 6 275ml mugs). An old habit picked up while living in
various parts of Asia.

Japanese food (traditional) doesn't put weight on, but for many people,
it is difficult to acquire a taste for it.


If you don't eat too much of it, you will probably lose weight.

If you WORK physically hard and eat the Japanese diet, you will probably
thin down quite a lot. Sorry about that profane four letter word, work.

You can overdose on endless rice, but that would be somewhat American,
rather than Japanese, I think.


It isn't endless rice, it is rice prepared in many ways, with
innumerable varieties of flavours and seasonings.


Regards

David


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Old December 7th, 2004, 09:57 AM
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J. David Anderson wrote:
I could eat a kilo (2.2 lbs) of rice per day,


That's cooked weight, right? I know it is, but I just want to confirm.

You use the sushi rice, right? It's yum! I love the texture.

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Old December 7th, 2004, 10:00 AM
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mikan wrote:

I want to go on a diet.
But I really like chocolate, ice-cream ,cookies, and cheese-cakes.
I think I should get less calories.
So I have just begun to eat traditional Japanese food.
What do you think ?
Has anyone tried to go on adiet with Japanese food?
Please advise me.

Thank you very much.

Mikan


Do you want recommendation in low carb diet or low calorie diet? If you want to
do low carb I suppose if you cut out the rice, noodles, soba that shouldn't be
any problem?

Try not to eat too much tempura - starchy coating, deep fried, high calories.

Miso soup is nice...


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Old December 7th, 2004, 11:51 AM
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Stick to the sashimi rather than sushi.. Most fish are low carb.

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mikan wrote:
I want to go on a diet.
But I really like chocolate, ice-cream ,cookies, and cheese-cakes.
I think I should get less calories.
So I have just begun to eat traditional Japanese food.
What do you think ?
Has anyone tried to go on adiet with Japanese food?
Please advise me.

Thank you very much.

Mikan



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Old December 7th, 2004, 04:22 PM
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As far as I know, traditional Japanese food does not include "chocolate,
ice-cream, cookies, and cheese-cakes."

Before discovering low carb I had tried adding lots of rice to my diet, on
the assumption that it would be more like an Asian diet. I didn't lose any
weight.

Low carbers can have "chocolate, ice-cream, and cheese-cakes," if they are
made with artificial sweeteners, like Splenda. Cookies won't work.


"mikan" wrote in message
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I want to go on a diet.
But I really like chocolate, ice-cream ,cookies, and cheese-cakes.
I think I should get less calories.
So I have just begun to eat traditional Japanese food.
What do you think ?
Has anyone tried to go on adiet with Japanese food?
Please advise me.

Thank you very much.

Mikan



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Old December 7th, 2004, 05:41 PM
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"mikan" wrote in message
om...
I want to go on a diet.
But I really like chocolate, ice-cream ,cookies, and cheese-cakes.
I think I should get less calories.
So I have just begun to eat traditional Japanese food.
What do you think ?
Has anyone tried to go on adiet with Japanese food?
Please advise me.

Thank you very much.

Mikan


Japanese food is lower in fat and sugar. The Japanese eat much smaller
portions than Americans. Portion control is probably more significant than
any other reason that Japanese are slimmer.


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Old December 11th, 2004, 11:57 AM
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"mikan" wrote in message
I want to go on a diet.
But I really like chocolate, ice-cream ,cookies, and cheese-cakes.
I think I should get less calories.
So I have just begun to eat traditional Japanese food.
What do you think ?
Has anyone tried to go on adiet with Japanese food?
Please advise me.


Less calories would allow for chocolate, ice cream, cookies, and cheese
cakes?
Traditional Japanese food would allow for chocolate, ice cream, cookies, and
cheese cakes?

I've had some fantastic tasting cheese cakes on low carb. I also adore the
chocolate I eat (85% cocoa, very rich, dark, creamy).
Those dessert items you mention, however, will need to be small and
occassional "treats" if you are trying to lose weight, probably no matter
what diet you are on.

I used to really love the snack foods I'd eat. After going through the 2
week induction of Atkins, I lost my cravings for them. It is much easier to
have self-control when your body does not feel hungry and you stop craving
foods that are bad for you.

If you are posting your question on a low-carb board, I'm assuming it is
because you are interested in low-carb. My suggestion would be that you
give it a 2-week trial and see how you feel after that.


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