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Old April 27th, 2004, 06:19 PM
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Patricia Heil wrote:
What are you doing for exercise?


1.5 hours of Power Yoga 4 times a week, and brisk walking (often pushing
a stroller) on the off days.



"suz" wrote in message ...

Every so often, my weight creeps up (I am 42 now) and I want to lose 10
pounds to stay comfortable in my clothes. There are many websites that
will tell you how many calories you have to cut per day, to say lose 10
pounds in 3 months. The calculators also will tell you how many
calories your body needs to maintain the current weight.

All of the calculators said I needed around 1600 calories per day to
maintain my current weight, and estimated that I had to drop 400 per day
to lose 10 pounds in 3 months. Since I exercise, I added 200 calories
back, so I need to drop 200 calories per day.

I figured that would be easy to do, but it wasn't. I have felt like I
am starving to the point of having headaches. Something is wrong here.

Yesterday, I was literally starving all day. I ate:
coffee with milk and cream (100 calories)
2 fried eggs (150)
a quarter of a cantaloupe (50)
a piece of whole grain bread with a tablespoon of peanut butter (195)
popcorn as a snack (130)
another quarter of a cantaloupe (50)
3 ounces of beef brisket cooked with tomato sauce and wine (325)
some salad (?)
before bed, 2 pieces of wheat bread with melted cheddar cheese (300)

That is 1300 calories plus the salad, whatever that was. Why am I
STARVING and getting headaches?





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Old April 27th, 2004, 06:46 PM
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"Lictor" wrote in message
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- What's cantaloup? lol

http://www.cfbf.com/info/cantaloupe.htm


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Old April 27th, 2004, 06:53 PM
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Hark! I heard suz say:

big snip

Adding fresh veggies is always a good idea, but I want to feel satisfied
and full, instead of starving and headachy.


This sounds a lot like a possible blood sugar problem -- do you
space your food intake evenly over the course of the day? Or perhaps
some other medical issue is at play. I strongly suggest that if this
continues to happen, you talk to a professional...




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Old April 27th, 2004, 07:03 PM
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"suz" wrote in message ...
I would cut out the beef and stick with chicken and fish.


Is there a reason for that specifically? Is beef not good for dieters?
(I use organic by the way.)


That's because some people get the idea that they should eat low fat meat.
They also get the idea that beef and pork are high fat. This all depends on
where the meat comes from. Tenderloin is pork, but it's also 3-5% fat. Beef
undercut is usually around 6% fat. Except for a few parts, beef is
reasonnably low fat anyway, especially if you don't eat the visible fat. On
the other hand, chicken drumstick is very high in fat, even without the
skin, as high as 20%. Same with some fish (salmon...).


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Old April 27th, 2004, 07:35 PM
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J.J. Marie wrote:
Hark! I heard suz say:

big snip

Adding fresh veggies is always a good idea, but I want to feel satisfied
and full, instead of starving and headachy.



This sounds a lot like a possible blood sugar problem -- do you
space your food intake evenly over the course of the day? Or perhaps
some other medical issue is at play. I strongly suggest that if this
continues to happen, you talk to a professional...


I eat all through the day. The starving feeling and the headache
started when I started "dieting" --reducing my calories by 200 calories
a day from the level the calculators said I needed to maintain my weight.

Ya know, perhaps the calculators were wrong. I assumed that because I
have been at this weight for a long time that I must be eating around
1600 calories a day, because that is what the calculators say is a
maintenance amount. Perhaps I have been eating a lot more than that and
am actually really hungry. But how could the calculators be so off?

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Old April 27th, 2004, 07:41 PM
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Lictor wrote:
"Alex" wrote in message
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I'm no expert by any means, but here's what I see -- you are spiking
your blood sugar repeatedly with sweet fruit & wine and empty carbs
(bread) that metabolize like sugar.



Wine doesn't spike sugar, it's mostly sugar free (white wine does have some
sugar, red wine is virtually carb free). Alcohol does the exact opposite of
a sugar spike, it usually pushes you into hypoglycemia (my worst was
drinking vodka while I hadn't eaten, then going to the restaurant, taking my
insulino-secretor diabete medication and then waiting half an hour for that
stupid meal to arrive - thought I would collapse). Anywa,y unless I missed a
glass of wine somewhere, it seems like she's cooking with it. Beef is cooked
with red wine, so no sugar there, and the alcohol goes away when the wine is
heated.

As for the bread and fruits, it's hard to spot, since the list is not broken
into meals. But :
- a piece of whole grain bread with a tablespoon of peanut butter - should
be medium glycemic index because of the fat from peanut butter (assuming
it's not sugar with a little peanuts in the mix) and whole grain bread
(assuming it's real whole bread).
- 2 pieces of wheat bread with melted cheddar cheese - is also slowed down
by the cheese, though might still be pretty fast if it's white wheat.
- What's cantaloup? lol

But this does indeed look like hypoglycemia. So maybe this is a severe case
of reactive hypoglycemia, but her food is not that high GI, I mean, she's
not gorging herself on soda all day long or stuff like this.
But dehydratation can cause headaches. As someone else posted, so can lack
of caffeine.



I didn't get the above message from Lictor, so I'll answer both here.

I did drink a lot of water, since I do get headaches from dehydration.
I only drink coffee in the morning, and had my usual cup.

I did not drink wine with dinner, but the wine was in the sauce and
cooked many hours, so no actual alcohol.

The bread was whole grain, so not completely empty carbs, and was eaten
with peanut butter or cheese, so that should not have spiked my blood
sugar.

I am a person who tends to eat throughout the day. I can't be the only
one who will have a piece of melon or another fruit as a snack? If I am
not diabetic, why would that be a problem?

By the way, I cook. Not every meal is perfectly balanced--I'm human!
But I do eat a good variety of foods over the course of a day or several
days. I don't eat fast food, and I don't keep cookies, chips, soda and
other junk food in the house. I do have a weakness for chocolate, but
didn't have any yesterday.

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Old April 27th, 2004, 08:18 PM
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I'd suggest going back to your regular diet and finding out how many
calories you noramlly eat. Then subtract 400. You may be starving
because you're eating too few calories. Want an easy way to lose the
ten pounds? Try drinking one cup of grapefruit juice before each
meal. It has worked for me when nothing else did. BTW the juice is
also good for you. The acid in the juice slows digestion, apparently.


suz wrote in message ...
Every so often, my weight creeps up (I am 42 now) and I want to lose 10
pounds to stay comfortable in my clothes. There are many websites that
will tell you how many calories you have to cut per day, to say lose 10
pounds in 3 months. The calculators also will tell you how many
calories your body needs to maintain the current weight.

All of the calculators said I needed around 1600 calories per day to
maintain my current weight, and estimated that I had to drop 400 per day
to lose 10 pounds in 3 months. Since I exercise, I added 200 calories
back, so I need to drop 200 calories per day.

I figured that would be easy to do, but it wasn't. I have felt like I
am starving to the point of having headaches. Something is wrong here.

Yesterday, I was literally starving all day. I ate:
coffee with milk and cream (100 calories)
2 fried eggs (150)
a quarter of a cantaloupe (50)
a piece of whole grain bread with a tablespoon of peanut butter (195)
popcorn as a snack (130)
another quarter of a cantaloupe (50)
3 ounces of beef brisket cooked with tomato sauce and wine (325)
some salad (?)
before bed, 2 pieces of wheat bread with melted cheddar cheese (300)

That is 1300 calories plus the salad, whatever that was. Why am I
STARVING and getting headaches?

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Old April 27th, 2004, 09:41 PM
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"suz" wrote in message ...


~Deb~ wrote:
"suz" wrote in message ...

Every so often, my weight creeps up (I am 42 now) and I want to lose 10
pounds to stay comfortable in my clothes. There are many websites that
will tell you how many calories you have to cut per day, to say lose 10
pounds in 3 months. The calculators also will tell you how many
calories your body needs to maintain the current weight.

All of the calculators said I needed around 1600 calories per day to
maintain my current weight, and estimated that I had to drop 400 per day
to lose 10 pounds in 3 months. Since I exercise, I added 200 calories
back, so I need to drop 200 calories per day.

I figured that would be easy to do, but it wasn't. I have felt like I
am starving to the point of having headaches. Something is wrong here.

Yesterday, I was literally starving all day. I ate:
coffee with milk and cream (100 calories)
2 fried eggs (150)
a quarter of a cantaloupe (50)
a piece of whole grain bread with a tablespoon of peanut butter (195)
popcorn as a snack (130)
another quarter of a cantaloupe (50)
3 ounces of beef brisket cooked with tomato sauce and wine (325)
some salad (?)
before bed, 2 pieces of wheat bread with melted cheddar cheese (300)

That is 1300 calories plus the salad, whatever that was. Why am I
STARVING and getting headaches?



I would think the headaches could be from consuming maybe too much

sodium?
(ie; cheese, popcorn) and maybe the wine because of the alcohol in it.


Hm. The popcorn had no salt (I made it myself),


Oh, then that's okay, I thought it had salt on it...

and the cheese was just
standard sharp cheddar, which I have eaten for years with no ill
effects.


Hmmm, no idea then.

The brisket did have wine in it, but that had been cooked for
hours and hours. I am sure there was no "alcohol" left in there by the
time it was served.


Couldn't be that then...

I have never had headaches from eating brisket
before, or even from having a glass of wine at dinner, which I did not
have yesterday.

I would cut out the beef and stick with chicken and fish.


Is there a reason for that specifically? Is beef not good for dieters?
(I use organic by the way.)


I have always heard that cutting out red meat is what a dieter should do to
lose weight, but I could be wrong, maybe there are new guidelines..



I would cut out any fried food and the peanut butter and cheese.


Why? Peanut butter is a great food, loaded with protein.


Peanut butter has alot of calories. I've just recently added it to my diet.

And what is
wrong with cheese. I had a little more than an ounce--not really
excessive.


I think cheese is ok, once in a great while. Correct me if I am wrong, but
I believe cheddar cheese has a high fat content.

Does fried food cause headaches?


Not that I know of, but it is not good for a dieter, IMO.

I have never gotten
headaches from fried eggs before. It's not like I had french fries or
deep fried things. It was just a couple of fried eggs!

My impression yesterday was that I was feeling incredibly hungry all
day, and that resulted in a headache. It never occurred to me that
foods I have eaten all my life would suddenly cause headaches in smaller
amounts than I usually eat them.


That's entirely possible.


Maybe instead of cream in your coffee you could use some non-dairy

creamer.

I appreciate your advice, but no thanks to that! I will not pollute my
coffee or my body with chemicals when I can just have the real thing.
What I have in my coffee each day is a half cup of milk with a splash of
cream.


It was JMO of course...

It also sounds like you need to add alot more fresh vegetables.


I did have a large salad with the brisket at dinner, which had lots of
carrots, cucumber, lettuce, and sweet red pepper. I just didn't figure
out the calories for that.


I LOVE salads! The more stuff I can put in them, the better!

Adding fresh veggies is always a good idea, but I want to feel satisfied
and full, instead of starving and headachy.



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Old April 27th, 2004, 09:42 PM
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brisket is loaded, and I mean LOADED with sodium.

"suz" wrote in message ...


~Deb~ wrote:
"suz" wrote in message ...

Every so often, my weight creeps up (I am 42 now) and I want to lose 10
pounds to stay comfortable in my clothes. There are many websites that
will tell you how many calories you have to cut per day, to say lose 10
pounds in 3 months. The calculators also will tell you how many
calories your body needs to maintain the current weight.

All of the calculators said I needed around 1600 calories per day to
maintain my current weight, and estimated that I had to drop 400 per day
to lose 10 pounds in 3 months. Since I exercise, I added 200 calories
back, so I need to drop 200 calories per day.

I figured that would be easy to do, but it wasn't. I have felt like I
am starving to the point of having headaches. Something is wrong here.

Yesterday, I was literally starving all day. I ate:
coffee with milk and cream (100 calories)
2 fried eggs (150)
a quarter of a cantaloupe (50)
a piece of whole grain bread with a tablespoon of peanut butter (195)
popcorn as a snack (130)
another quarter of a cantaloupe (50)
3 ounces of beef brisket cooked with tomato sauce and wine (325)
some salad (?)
before bed, 2 pieces of wheat bread with melted cheddar cheese (300)

That is 1300 calories plus the salad, whatever that was. Why am I
STARVING and getting headaches?



I would think the headaches could be from consuming maybe too much

sodium?
(ie; cheese, popcorn) and maybe the wine because of the alcohol in it.


Hm. The popcorn had no salt (I made it myself), and the cheese was just
standard sharp cheddar, which I have eaten for years with no ill
effects. The brisket did have wine in it, but that had been cooked for
hours and hours. I am sure there was no "alcohol" left in there by the
time it was served. I have never had headaches from eating brisket
before, or even from having a glass of wine at dinner, which I did not
have yesterday.

I would cut out the beef and stick with chicken and fish.


Is there a reason for that specifically? Is beef not good for dieters?
(I use organic by the way.)


I would cut out any fried food and the peanut butter and cheese.


Why? Peanut butter is a great food, loaded with protein. And what is
wrong with cheese. I had a little more than an ounce--not really
excessive. Does fried food cause headaches? I have never gotten
headaches from fried eggs before. It's not like I had french fries or
deep fried things. It was just a couple of fried eggs!

My impression yesterday was that I was feeling incredibly hungry all
day, and that resulted in a headache. It never occurred to me that
foods I have eaten all my life would suddenly cause headaches in smaller
amounts than I usually eat them.


Maybe instead of cream in your coffee you could use some non-dairy

creamer.

I appreciate your advice, but no thanks to that! I will not pollute my
coffee or my body with chemicals when I can just have the real thing.
What I have in my coffee each day is a half cup of milk with a splash of
cream.

It also sounds like you need to add alot more fresh vegetables.


I did have a large salad with the brisket at dinner, which had lots of
carrots, cucumber, lettuce, and sweet red pepper. I just didn't figure
out the calories for that.

Adding fresh veggies is always a good idea, but I want to feel satisfied
and full, instead of starving and headachy.



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Old April 27th, 2004, 09:46 PM
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"determined" wrote in message
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brisket is loaded, and I mean LOADED with sodium.


Let me correct that stmt with this - corned beef is loaded with sodium. I
have a pack in the fridge and a serving of 4oz has 600 mg of sodium...


 




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