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What's the Problem with Soy?
Priscilla H Ballou wrote:
Evelyn Ruut quoth: The thing I don't get is why vegetarians are always so angry. They are filled with hatred and it is their entire life effort to spew hatred at people. Geez. Generalize much? Gandhi was so overflowing with hatred, wasn't he? Oh, that is too funny! Good one! I think you should get a prize for that response or something. :-) Priscilla -- nimue "There was a time when I was young and gay -- but straight." Max Bialystock Do not taunt happy fun ball. SNL |
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What's the Problem with Soy?
Soy also blocks thyroid function.
wrote in message ... On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 12:18:52 GMT, "Carmen" wrote: Hi, On 4-Apr-2004, Bev-Ann wrote: I've seen several people on this ng talking about avoiding soy and things made from it. So I'm curious...why? I've never really used soy products before going low-carb, but I'm not having any problems with them now that I'm aware of. Soy is a source of phytoestrogens, which is just a fancy way of saying plant-sourced estrogens. Some people are not able to stick extra estrogens in their system without getting symptoms like tender breasts, water retention, etc. That's why I have to avoid a lot of soy. If I wanted that kind of misery I'd take BC pills. ;-) Others avoid soy because there's some evidence that overconsumption (the definition of which varies from person to person) can negatively impact on thyroid function. Take care, Carmen Wow, WOW, W O W ..... That explains my tender breasts. My dick is tender too. Is that because of the soy bean I ate last week, or because I have to jack off all the time now, ever since I left my wife. She was spending all her time with some maggot ridden dead guy named Atkins. She loved him more than me, so I left her. |
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What's the Problem with Soy?
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Bev-Ann wrote: I've seen several people on this ng talking about avoiding soy and things made from it. So I'm curious...why? I've never really used soy products before going low-carb, but I'm not having any problems with them now that I'm aware of. ----- Bev If you're a man, (I assume you are not.) it can make your dick shrink. Hmm, maybe we should feed it to W. |
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What's the Problem with Soy?
Regarding soy, this is what I've heard: When tofu gained in popularity, the
soy manufacturers noticed that there was quite of leftover "stuff" (soy protein isolate-soy waste product). The food manufacturers couldn't stand the idea of throwing this junk away so they created a market for it: cereal, protein powders, meal replacement bars, pasta, soy ice cream, etc. This stuff is nothing but junk. If you're a woman, please keep in mind that the natural estrogens found in soy contribute to breast cancer and a host of other female complications. Naturally, the food industry advertised all this stuff as being healthy but it's actually detrimental to your health. Please avoid these products. -Spyglass wrote in message ... On Mon, 05 Apr04 04:27:42 GMT, Bev-Ann wrote: I've seen several people on this ng talking about avoiding soy and things made from it. So I'm curious...why? I've never really used soy products before going low-carb, but I'm not having any problems with them now that I'm aware of. ----- Bev According to QUACK Atkins, EVERY FOOD is bad except raw naked flesh from dead animals. If it aint bloody, it aint food !!! Atkins was a vampire of sorts, he had to have blood in every food item. |
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What's the Problem with Soy?
The Silk Soy Milk has zero cholesterol and 3 net Carbs. It isn't bad as
for taste, but I suppose I need to do more research, wasn't aware of the health hazards. BTW JIF Peanut Butter now has a 4gm Carb version, and only cost $1.65..yum.. Faye |
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What's the Problem with Soy?
I think the OP was talking about not-so-natural soy products like those low carb
tortilla, whatever. I am tired of telling people there shouldn't be anything wrong about eating natural soy products. People who call soy dangerous often lug the original bean itself together with all these strange chemical stuffs derived from beans. It's like hydrogenated oil, the oil itself is harmless but once it's been put through strange processes it's no wonder it's going to cause harm to those who eat it. Same with soy, soy milk, soy sauce, fermented soy products. There was a poster in here a while ago said that soy is dangerous because she's started to have bleeding in between periods after, according what she's written, been eating products produced using soya isolate in practically every meal for a week. Now why would someone do that is beyond me - Think of having a diet of pure margarine. For a week. To her credit, she did say that the natural products are alright and the soya isolate was the one to blame. But this point was not spelled out until it's half way through her 3-mile long post. Then there is this concern about the hormones like stuffs in the bean. I wonder how many beans one must eat to get the same dose as one can get from a pill. wrote: The Silk Soy Milk has zero cholesterol and 3 net Carbs. It isn't bad as for taste, but I suppose I need to do more research, wasn't aware of the health hazards. BTW JIF Peanut Butter now has a 4gm Carb version, and only cost $1.65..yum.. Faye |
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What's the Problem with Soy?
I'm the OP and at the time I posted the question I didn't know what
different types of soy products there are available. I was asking because I have started eating black soy beans 3 to 5 times a week and use a combination of soy protein isolate and soy flour as a replacement for wheat flour in baking. I do eat the Atkins cold cereals on the weekends, but those are the only frankenfoods I buy containing soy. I don't eat tofu or use soy sauce. It's been 4 and a half months since I started LC and using soy in these forms. My periods have become more frequent (every 3 weeks) but my doctor says that can happen on any diet where you lose weight quickly and the addition of the small amount of soy such as I'm consuming is likely coincidental. He said my periods should regulate themselves again in another month or 2. on Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:31:02 +0100, Ada Ma wrote: I think the OP was talking about not-so-natural soy products like those low carb tortilla, whatever. I am tired of telling people there shouldn't be anything wrong about eating natural soy products. People who call soy dangerous often lug the original bean itself together with all these strange chemical stuffs derived from beans. It's like hydrogenated oil, the oil itself is harmless but once it's been put through strange processes it's no wonder it's going to cause harm to those who eat it. Same with soy, soy milk, soy sauce, fermented soy products. There was a poster in here a while ago said that soy is dangerous because she's started to have bleeding in between periods after, according what she's written, been eating products produced using soya isolate in practically every meal for a week. Now why would someone do that is beyond me - Think of having a diet of pure margarine. For a week. To her credit, she did say that the natural products are alright and the soya isolate was the one to blame. But this point was not spelled out until it's half way through her 3-mile long post. Then there is this concern about the hormones like stuffs in the bean. I wonder how many beans one must eat to get the same dose as one can get from a pill. ----- Bev |
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What's the Problem with Soy?
I'm the OP and at the time I posted the question I didn't know what
different types of soy products there are available. I was asking because I have started eating black soy beans 3 to 5 times a week and use a combination of soy protein isolate and soy flour as a replacement for wheat flour in baking. I do eat the Atkins cold cereals on the weekends, but those are the only frankenfoods I buy containing soy. I don't eat tofu or use soy sauce. It's been 4 and a half months since I started LC and using soy in these forms. My periods have become more frequent (every 3 weeks) but my doctor says that can happen on any diet where you lose weight quickly and the addition of the small amount of soy such as I'm consuming is likely coincidental. He said my periods should regulate themselves again in another month or 2. on Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:31:02 +0100, Ada Ma wrote: I think the OP was talking about not-so-natural soy products like those low carb tortilla, whatever. I am tired of telling people there shouldn't be anything wrong about eating natural soy products. People who call soy dangerous often lug the original bean itself together with all these strange chemical stuffs derived from beans. It's like hydrogenated oil, the oil itself is harmless but once it's been put through strange processes it's no wonder it's going to cause harm to those who eat it. Same with soy, soy milk, soy sauce, fermented soy products. There was a poster in here a while ago said that soy is dangerous because she's started to have bleeding in between periods after, according what she's written, been eating products produced using soya isolate in practically every meal for a week. Now why would someone do that is beyond me - Think of having a diet of pure margarine. For a week. To her credit, she did say that the natural products are alright and the soya isolate was the one to blame. But this point was not spelled out until it's half way through her 3-mile long post. Then there is this concern about the hormones like stuffs in the bean. I wonder how many beans one must eat to get the same dose as one can get from a pill. ----- Bev |
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What's the Problem with Soy?
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle...ID=5660167& s
ection=news .. . . To investigate, the researchers analyzed uterus biopsy specimens taken from 376 postmenopausal women who were randomly selected to receive soy or inactive "placebo" tablets for 5 years. Biopsy specimens were obtained at the beginning of the study, after 30 months, and at the end of study period. A total of 298 women completed the full trial. None of the biopsy specimens showed evidence of cancer. However, nearly 4 percent of women in the soy group developed endometrial hyperplasia compared with none of the women in the placebo group. These findings, the authors note, "call into question the long-term safety of (soy) phytoestrogens with regard to the endometrium." SOURCE: Fertility and Sterility, July 2004. Soy Linked to Thickening of Endometrial Lining In a small group of women soy causes the same precancerous changes as estrogen overdose. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.7 . Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm "Bev-Ann" wrote in message ... I'm the OP and at the time I posted the question I didn't know what different types of soy products there are available. I was asking because I have started eating black soy beans 3 to 5 times a week and use a combination of soy protein isolate and soy flour as a replacement for wheat flour in baking. I do eat the Atkins cold cereals on the weekends, but those are the only frankenfoods I buy containing soy. I don't eat tofu or use soy sauce. It's been 4 and a half months since I started LC and using soy in these forms. My periods have become more frequent (every 3 weeks) but my doctor says that can happen on any diet where you lose weight quickly and the addition of the small amount of soy such as I'm consuming is likely coincidental. He said my periods should regulate themselves again in another month or 2. on Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:31:02 +0100, Ada Ma wrote: I think the OP was talking about not-so-natural soy products like those low carb tortilla, whatever. I am tired of telling people there shouldn't be anything wrong about eating natural soy products. People who call soy dangerous often lug the original bean itself together with all these strange chemical stuffs derived from beans. It's like hydrogenated oil, the oil itself is harmless but once it's been put through strange processes it's no wonder it's going to cause harm to those who eat it. Same with soy, soy milk, soy sauce, fermented soy products. There was a poster in here a while ago said that soy is dangerous because she's started to have bleeding in between periods after, according what she's written, been eating products produced using soya isolate in practically every meal for a week. Now why would someone do that is beyond me - Think of having a diet of pure margarine. For a week. To her credit, she did say that the natural products are alright and the soya isolate was the one to blame. But this point was not spelled out until it's half way through her 3-mile long post. Then there is this concern about the hormones like stuffs in the bean. I wonder how many beans one must eat to get the same dose as one can get from a pill. ----- Bev |
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What's the Problem with Soy?
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle...ID=5660167& s
ection=news .. . . To investigate, the researchers analyzed uterus biopsy specimens taken from 376 postmenopausal women who were randomly selected to receive soy or inactive "placebo" tablets for 5 years. Biopsy specimens were obtained at the beginning of the study, after 30 months, and at the end of study period. A total of 298 women completed the full trial. None of the biopsy specimens showed evidence of cancer. However, nearly 4 percent of women in the soy group developed endometrial hyperplasia compared with none of the women in the placebo group. These findings, the authors note, "call into question the long-term safety of (soy) phytoestrogens with regard to the endometrium." SOURCE: Fertility and Sterility, July 2004. Soy Linked to Thickening of Endometrial Lining In a small group of women soy causes the same precancerous changes as estrogen overdose. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.7 . Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm "Bev-Ann" wrote in message ... I'm the OP and at the time I posted the question I didn't know what different types of soy products there are available. I was asking because I have started eating black soy beans 3 to 5 times a week and use a combination of soy protein isolate and soy flour as a replacement for wheat flour in baking. I do eat the Atkins cold cereals on the weekends, but those are the only frankenfoods I buy containing soy. I don't eat tofu or use soy sauce. It's been 4 and a half months since I started LC and using soy in these forms. My periods have become more frequent (every 3 weeks) but my doctor says that can happen on any diet where you lose weight quickly and the addition of the small amount of soy such as I'm consuming is likely coincidental. He said my periods should regulate themselves again in another month or 2. on Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:31:02 +0100, Ada Ma wrote: I think the OP was talking about not-so-natural soy products like those low carb tortilla, whatever. I am tired of telling people there shouldn't be anything wrong about eating natural soy products. People who call soy dangerous often lug the original bean itself together with all these strange chemical stuffs derived from beans. It's like hydrogenated oil, the oil itself is harmless but once it's been put through strange processes it's no wonder it's going to cause harm to those who eat it. Same with soy, soy milk, soy sauce, fermented soy products. There was a poster in here a while ago said that soy is dangerous because she's started to have bleeding in between periods after, according what she's written, been eating products produced using soya isolate in practically every meal for a week. Now why would someone do that is beyond me - Think of having a diet of pure margarine. For a week. To her credit, she did say that the natural products are alright and the soya isolate was the one to blame. But this point was not spelled out until it's half way through her 3-mile long post. Then there is this concern about the hormones like stuffs in the bean. I wonder how many beans one must eat to get the same dose as one can get from a pill. ----- Bev |
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