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Old June 17th, 2008, 10:45 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Art
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Default Verizon blocking access to ALT groups

Just received a notice from Verizon that starting June 24th all but the big
"8" (which doesn't include ALT) will be blocked.

Here is a excerpt from their email:


Dear Verizon Online Customer,

As a Verizon Newsgroup service user, we wanted to let you know about some
important changes that we will soon be making to our Newsgroup service.

On June 24, 2008, we will be modifying our Newsgroup offerings to only offer
groups in the Big-8 Newsgroup hierarchies, which are listed below. The
0.verizon.* newsgroup hierarchy will also continue to be available. Users
will not be able to post or download from any other newsgroups using our
Newsgroup service.

comp.*
humanities.*
misc.*
news.*
rec.*
sci.*
soc.*
talk.*

More details regarding the Big 8 newsgroup hierarchies is available at:
http://www.big-8.org/.



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Old June 17th, 2008, 11:30 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
FOB
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Default Verizon blocking access to ALT groups

Some free servers to try:

http://usenet-news.net/

http://www.news.astraweb.com/

www.teranews.com

http://www.motzarella.org/

www.aioe.org


Art wrote:
| Just received a notice from Verizon that starting June 24th all but
| the big "8" (which doesn't include ALT) will be blocked.
|
| Here is a excerpt from their email:
|
|
| Dear Verizon Online Customer,
|
| As a Verizon Newsgroup service user, we wanted to let you know about
| some important changes that we will soon be making to our Newsgroup
| service.
|
| On June 24, 2008, we will be modifying our Newsgroup offerings to
| only offer groups in the Big-8 Newsgroup hierarchies, which are
| listed below. The
| 0.verizon.* newsgroup hierarchy will also continue to be available.
| Users will not be able to post or download from any other newsgroups
| using our Newsgroup service.
|
| comp.*
| humanities.*
| misc.*
| news.*
| rec.*
| sci.*
| soc.*
| talk.*
|
| More details regarding the Big 8 newsgroup hierarchies is available
| at: http://www.big-8.org/.


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Old June 18th, 2008, 12:58 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Jeri
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Art wrote:
Just received a notice from Verizon that starting June 24th all but
the big "8" (which doesn't include ALT) will be blocked.

snip

It doesn't surprise me at all. Roadrunner will be terminating their Usenet
service completely as of June 23rd.

If anyone is interested in a text only news server check out
news.individual.net . They charge 10 euros/year and payment can be made
through PayPal or other ways listed on their website
http://www.individual.net/ .

NAYY
--
Jeri
"Change is inevitable, except from vending machines."


Modified by MG




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Old June 18th, 2008, 04:12 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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"Jeri" wrote:

If anyone is interested in a text only news server check out
news.individual.net . They charge 10 euros/year and payment can be made
through PayPal or other ways listed on their website
http://www.individual.net/.


They've started taking PayPal? Does it know how to handle
the currency conversion? A few years ago I decided against
going with individual.net because it was too much a hassle
to open an account in Euros specifically for it.
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Old June 18th, 2008, 06:29 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
MoiMoi[_3_]
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Default Verizon blocking access to ALT groups

In article a970c85f-f96b-4974-bb82-7fb81d607459
@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, says...
"Jeri" wrote:

If anyone is interested in a text only news server check out
news.individual.net . They charge 10 euros/year and payment can be made
through PayPal or other ways listed on their website
http://www.individual.net/.

They've started taking PayPal?


Not that I can see.
They use ClickandBuy; uses your credit card.
I've had no probs with it, does the currency conversion, around $15/yr
US bucks. Was using the free service for couple of years, been with paid
version ever since they started it.

MM

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Old June 18th, 2008, 11:35 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Jeri
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Doug Freyburger wrote:
"Jeri" wrote:

If anyone is interested in a text only news server check out
news.individual.net . They charge 10 euros/year and payment can be
made through PayPal or other ways listed on their website
http://www.individual.net/.


They've started taking PayPal? Does it know how to handle
the currency conversion? A few years ago I decided against
going with individual.net because it was too much a hassle
to open an account in Euros specifically for it.


Yes, they've started taking PayPal and it handled the currency conversion
seamlessly.

From their website overview.... http://www.individual.net/overview.php

How can I pay?
You can choose from the following payment options: The online payment
service providers ClickandBuy (formerly Firstgate) and PayPal, as well as
payment by bank transfer to a German bank account of Freie Universität
Berlin (for holders of non-German bank accounts, IBAN and BIC are
available).
--
Jeri
"Change is inevitable, except from vending machines."






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Old June 20th, 2008, 02:57 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
DB[_2_]
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Default Verizon blocking access to ALT groups


"Art" wrote in message
news:GfW5k.6522$Mu.5297@trndny07...
Just received a notice from Verizon that starting June 24th all but the
big "8" (which doesn't include ALT) will be blocked.

Here is a excerpt from their email:


Dear Verizon Online Customer,

As a Verizon Newsgroup service user, we wanted to let you know about some
important changes that we will soon be making to our Newsgroup service.



Dear Verizon!

I wanted to let you know about some important changes that i will be making
for my ISP.

Your services are no longer required! :-)

Regards

A paying customer.


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Old June 20th, 2008, 05:54 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Pramesh Rutaji
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Art wrote:
Just received a notice from Verizon that starting June 24th all but the big
"8" (which doesn't include ALT) will be blocked.


For what I read, they are not blocking anything. What they are doing is
not providing a service that they had previously provided. One can
obtain newsgroup service from other provides. I use newsguy.com because
I was with another provider many years ago (AOL) and I found it then to
use a dedicated newsgroup provider for reliable access.

If you want to read newsgroups for free, just go to a free provider like
google.com and read the groups there. Otherwise, you can pay for a
services that provides nntp access.

Blocking would mean that verizon is preventing access from using anyone
nntp services (newsgroups). That is not the case. On the other hand, I
used to be with a service that blocked all outside access to sending
mail on port 25 (smtp) except for their mail server. I ended up
creating an encrypted tunnel to another service I had so that I could
force writes to my own mail service to bypass automatically the ISP
blocking bull**** and make it impossible for them to access and/or
retain my email. (I also got encrypted POP3 access to boot, encrypted
from my ISP's point of view). One could easily do the same thing with nntp.

--

Pramesh Rutaji

- remove tongue to reply
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Old June 20th, 2008, 08:52 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Marengo
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:54:01 -0600, Pramesh Rutaji
wrote:

Art wrote:
Just received a notice from Verizon that starting June 24th all but the big
"8" (which doesn't include ALT) will be blocked.


For what I read, they are not blocking anything. What they are doing is
not providing a service that they had previously provided.


It's not that simple. They've been pressured by the New York attorney
general into enforcing government censorship. No need to go into
details, google the new stories.
---
Peter
270/216/180
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Old June 20th, 2008, 08:57 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Marengo
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Default Verizon blocking access to ALT groups

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:30:01 -0400, "FOB"
wrote:

http://www.motzarella.org/


snip

Even though my Cox cable ISP carries all the newsgroups, I switched
to using the free motzarella news server over a year ago, It's much
faster than Cox and so far has had zero down-time. (Cox seemed to
have news server issues just about weekly). I highly recommend it for
those who are losing their Verizon and Road Runner alt. newsgroups,
and it's completely free with no strings attached.
---
Peter
270/216/180
 




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