So glad to be back on track

If you worked out more often, your body wouldn't ache.

--
JC

Lyle's New Ultimate Diet

"1. eat less you fat ****
2. exercise more you fat ****"

"Luna" wrote in message
...
Huh? You knocking Curves? Don't you go knocking Curves, boy-eee!!!! My
body says it's "for real" when the day after a workout everything aches.
That good ache, not that "I pulled something" ache. There are some really
buff chicks there who don't do any other exercise than Curves, but I plan
to add some more activities in when I'm in better shape, I'm thinking
volleyball and some sort of martial arts.



In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

If you'd start exercising for real, you'd do a lot better.

--
JC

Lyle's New Ultimate Diet

"1. eat less you fat ****
2. exercise more you fat ****"

"Luna" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Chris B" wrote:

"Luna" wrote in message
...
| After basically taking a whole month off plan, ok, not quite that
bad,
but
| some popcorn here, a chocolate bar there, too many chicken
nuggets,
| skipping workouts, it is nice to be back on track the last two
days.
I
| even had a salad for lunch, something I haven't done in a good
long
while,
| and it was yummy and I feel healthier already! Ok, actually I
feel
kinda
| crappy, got the fuzzy head and dizziness back, but that just goes
to
show
| how badly I was doing when I slackened up for the last month.
Yesterday
| was my "back on track" today, and man, the cravings were back.
Today's
| good though, not hungry at all between meals, and keeping the
portions
| reasonable. So far just a cheeseburger for breakfast and that
salad
for
| lunch, not even hungry for dinner yet. Yay!
|
| --
| -Michelle Levin (Luna)
| http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
| http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna
|

Hey Luna,
I say "kudos" to anyone willing to pick theirself up , dust
theirself
off,
and keep on truckin'. I've seen your pics, and your doing one
helluva
job!
Refocus your motivation on what got you into the LC WOE in the first
place.
It works for me anyway. I want my "6-pack" back instead of my
"kegger".
I
refuse to yell at you and berate you for falling off the wagon, none
of
us
are perfect. I will, however, be satisfied with telling you that
what
you
are doing (LC WOE) is something that at times can be very difficult;
and
to
fall away, but still be able to pick up the pieces and continue
towards
a
goal, shows a perseverance and courage on your part that not
everyone
has.
Chris B.




Thanks!!! I think I may have exaggerated my "falling off the wagon"
in my
original post. I didn't go back to what I was eating before LC, not
by a
long shot. I didn't add enough carbs back in to make me gain or
stall,
but
it did make the weight loss slower, and more importantly my cravings
came
back. That was the sign to me that I needed to get back to being
strict,
no more treats. I feel more like I lost my balance and _almost_ fell
out
of the wagon, and now I just need to refocus and hold on tighter.

--
-Michelle Levin (Luna)
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna





--
-Michelle Levin (Luna)
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna

In article ,
says...
No, seriously, what is wrong with a hamburger with cheese for breakfast?
How is that any worse for you than bacon and eggs? Last I checked, both
hamburger and cheese were low carb.

There is nothing wrong with hamburger for breakfast. Eggs for breakfast
and the peculiar fixation with specific foods for breakfast is cultural.
If you can eat it for dinner you can eat it earlier...or later. There is
no proscription agains chewing something a few hours in either
direction.
Have a hamburger, and a smile!
--
Single malt scotch is awesome (NO it does NOT have carbs as DON'T vodka,
gin, rum, bourbon, etc generally)
Malt can be made low carb through the judicious use of yeast.


370/307/270

Email: Actually my feet are big not medium.

hahahahahaha!

--
JC

Lyle's New Ultimate Diet

"1. eat less you fat ****
2. exercise more you fat ****"

"April Goodwin-Smith" wrote in message
...
tucatz wrote:

You know more than most of us that this is not a yo-yo diet.
You really don't expect applause after your hiatus from the
plan do you?


Geeez...who peed in your corn flakes?

This newsgroup is for humans who celebrate their triumphs
over weakness. You want alt.sanctimonious.******s

April.
Put out the cat.
--
"Things that try to look like things often do look more
like things than things. Well known fact."
Esmerelda Weatherwax (Pratchett 1988)

tucatz wrote:

You know more than most of us that this is not a yo-yo diet.
You really don't expect applause after your hiatus from the
plan do you?


Geeez...who peed in your corn flakes?

This newsgroup is for humans who celebrate their triumphs
over weakness. You want alt.sanctimonious.******s

April.
Put out the cat.
--
"Things that try to look like things often do look more
like things than things. Well known fact."
Esmerelda Weatherwax (Pratchett 1988)

Bob L. wrote:

What the hell is THAT supposed to mean?
THIS queer guy can't decide whether to feel insulted or not!

i wouldn't bother. it's not as if tucatz knows his ass from a hole in
the ground, let alone who's cool around here.

Luna,

Ignore the fanatics. If you are going to low carb for the rest of your
life, you better learn how to cycle up and down a bit and keep the
"forbidden food" syndrome from eventually derailing you.

I am succeeding where I failed before because I've worked off plan foods
into my low carb lifestyle. I'm looking at weekly and monthly averages
rather than daily numbers. I'm logging everything to keep myself honest, but
I'm also relaxing so that food doesn't become the center of a huge sense of
deprivation.

Three years of "You can't eat that, ever" lead to complete bur out for me in
the past--followed by a year of going off plan and gaining 20 lbs. Now I'm
finishing up a year of being on plan--a year that included eating small
portions of just about anything you might imagine eating including pasta,
cake, ice cream and bread. I'm 138 lbs this morning--and that includes a
couple pounds of glycogen-water since my weekly average grams of carbs are
close to 80. But I've been under 140 for two months now and this maintenance
routine is working.

The key is balance. If I go way up for a couple days, I go way down
afterwards. If I am going to eat a lot of carbs in one meal I go easy for
the rest of the day. If I have something special coming up, I make room for
the calories and carbs in what I eat the next couple days. Most importantly
I log everything so I keep myself honest. Most of the time I find my
"pigouts" are much lower in calories and even sometimes carbs than I
thought. (Sometimes I also find out that my "reasonable amount" turned out
to be way more than I realized, and I correct in the future.) It's a
process, but I feel so much saner eating this way than I did when it was 30
grams a day and everything over was Sin.

Also, contrary to what was posted here, it does NOT take two weeks to get
back on track. It may take two weeks to flush all the water out of your
muscles and liver, but you don't need to go that low to maintain or even
lose weight on a low carb regimen. If you've gone above 100 grams for a few
weeks it may take three days to get over the cravings. If you can stay under
100 grams it takes almost no time at all to get back into a lower carb mode.
I do not have the problem with hunger cravings that I had when I was much
more overweight now that I'm at goal, which is interesting. I assume it
means my insulin levels have dropped.

Just remember: Fear of carbs leads to the final "I lost 100 pounds low
carbing, maintained for two years, and then gained it all back" behavior we
see people posting here from time to time.Learn how to make a reasonable
amount of carbs part of your ongoing plan and you'll maintain just fine. I
am.

-- Jenny

168.5/137

Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean
How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each
month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger Cravings
* Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats *
Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise
Starting from Zero * NEW! Do Starch Blockers Work?


"Luna" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Chris B" wrote:

"Luna" wrote in message
...
| After basically taking a whole month off plan, ok, not quite that bad,
but
| some popcorn here, a chocolate bar there, too many chicken nuggets,
| skipping workouts, it is nice to be back on track the last two days.
I
| even had a salad for lunch, something I haven't done in a good long
while,
| and it was yummy and I feel healthier already! Ok, actually I feel
kinda
| crappy, got the fuzzy head and dizziness back, but that just goes to
show
| how badly I was doing when I slackened up for the last month.
Yesterday
| was my "back on track" today, and man, the cravings were back.
Today's
| good though, not hungry at all between meals, and keeping the portions
| reasonable. So far just a cheeseburger for breakfast and that salad
for
| lunch, not even hungry for dinner yet. Yay!
|
| --
| -Michelle Levin (Luna)
| http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
| http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna
|

Hey Luna,
I say "kudos" to anyone willing to pick theirself up , dust theirself
off,
and keep on truckin'. I've seen your pics, and your doing one helluva
job!
Refocus your motivation on what got you into the LC WOE in the first
place.
It works for me anyway. I want my "6-pack" back instead of my "kegger".
I
refuse to yell at you and berate you for falling off the wagon, none of
us
are perfect. I will, however, be satisfied with telling you that what
you
are doing (LC WOE) is something that at times can be very difficult; and
to
fall away, but still be able to pick up the pieces and continue towards
a
goal, shows a perseverance and courage on your part that not everyone
has.
Chris B.




Thanks!!! I think I may have exaggerated my "falling off the wagon" in my
original post. I didn't go back to what I was eating before LC, not by a
long shot. I didn't add enough carbs back in to make me gain or stall,
but
it did make the weight loss slower, and more importantly my cravings came
back. That was the sign to me that I needed to get back to being strict,
no more treats. I feel more like I lost my balance and _almost_ fell out
of the wagon, and now I just need to refocus and hold on tighter.

--
-Michelle Levin (Luna)
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna

"Luna" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Chris B" wrote:

"Luna" wrote in message
...
| After basically taking a whole month off plan, ok, not quite that bad,
but
| some popcorn here, a chocolate bar there, too many chicken nuggets,
| skipping workouts, it is nice to be back on track the last two days.
I
| even had a salad for lunch, something I haven't done in a good long
while,
| and it was yummy and I feel healthier already! Ok, actually I feel
kinda
| crappy, got the fuzzy head and dizziness back, but that just goes to
show
| how badly I was doing when I slackened up for the last month.
Yesterday
| was my "back on track" today, and man, the cravings were back.
Today's
| good though, not hungry at all between meals, and keeping the portions
| reasonable. So far just a cheeseburger for breakfast and that salad
for
| lunch, not even hungry for dinner yet. Yay!
|
| --
| -Michelle Levin (Luna)
| http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
| http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna
|

Hey Luna,
I say "kudos" to anyone willing to pick theirself up , dust theirself
off,
and keep on truckin'. I've seen your pics, and your doing one helluva
job!
Refocus your motivation on what got you into the LC WOE in the first
place.
It works for me anyway. I want my "6-pack" back instead of my "kegger".
I
refuse to yell at you and berate you for falling off the wagon, none of
us
are perfect. I will, however, be satisfied with telling you that what
you
are doing (LC WOE) is something that at times can be very difficult; and
to
fall away, but still be able to pick up the pieces and continue towards
a
goal, shows a perseverance and courage on your part that not everyone
has.
Chris B.




Thanks!!! I think I may have exaggerated my "falling off the wagon" in my
original post. I didn't go back to what I was eating before LC, not by a
long shot. I didn't add enough carbs back in to make me gain or stall,
but
it did make the weight loss slower, and more importantly my cravings came
back. That was the sign to me that I needed to get back to being strict,
no more treats. I feel more like I lost my balance and _almost_ fell out
of the wagon, and now I just need to refocus and hold on tighter.

--
-Michelle Levin (Luna)
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna


Howdy Luna - It's amazing how righteous some people can get. Surely no one
can argue with the success that you have had and if you want to have a
cheeseburger in the morning, so be it. (just no fries on the side )

And the whole issue of not adhering strictly to the plan - isn't that the
"support" part of this group? If we were all perfect, would this group
exist? I say congratulations on spotting the trend before it gets out of
hand. Maybe I'm feeling this way because I too, have been indulging too
much this last week. (yes, popcorn, breaded chicken, nuts and chocolate)
But, like you, at least my mindset has changed enough that I although I
don't feel great about it, I'm not going to beat myself up, but instead will
refocus.

So, off to have my breakfast of bacon cheeseburger, but without the
hamburger. To each their own!
Brenda W

In article ,
"Jenny" wrote:

Luna,

Ignore the fanatics. If you are going to low carb for the rest of your
life, you better learn how to cycle up and down a bit and keep the
"forbidden food" syndrome from eventually derailing you.


Thank you for this.


I am succeeding where I failed before because I've worked off plan foods
into my low carb lifestyle. I'm looking at weekly and monthly averages
rather than daily numbers. I'm logging everything to keep myself honest, but
I'm also relaxing so that food doesn't become the center of a huge sense of
deprivation.

I wasn't keeping track, that was the problem. I never had a big blow-out
high carb binge, but it was a case of just a little of this, a little of
that. I was basically just not paying attention. Like I said before, it
wasn't enough to stall or gain, but it was enough to bring back cravings
and put a little healthy fear into me.


Three years of "You can't eat that, ever" lead to complete bur out for me in
the past--followed by a year of going off plan and gaining 20 lbs. Now I'm
finishing up a year of being on plan--a year that included eating small
portions of just about anything you might imagine eating including pasta,
cake, ice cream and bread. I'm 138 lbs this morning--and that includes a
couple pounds of glycogen-water since my weekly average grams of carbs are
close to 80. But I've been under 140 for two months now and this maintenance
routine is working.

The key is balance. If I go way up for a couple days, I go way down
afterwards. If I am going to eat a lot of carbs in one meal I go easy for
the rest of the day. If I have something special coming up, I make room for
the calories and carbs in what I eat the next couple days. Most importantly
I log everything so I keep myself honest. Most of the time I find my
"pigouts" are much lower in calories and even sometimes carbs than I
thought. (Sometimes I also find out that my "reasonable amount" turned out
to be way more than I realized, and I correct in the future.) It's a
process, but I feel so much saner eating this way than I did when it was 30
grams a day and everything over was Sin.

Also, contrary to what was posted here, it does NOT take two weeks to get
back on track. It may take two weeks to flush all the water out of your
muscles and liver, but you don't need to go that low to maintain or even
lose weight on a low carb regimen. If you've gone above 100 grams for a few
weeks it may take three days to get over the cravings. If you can stay under
100 grams it takes almost no time at all to get back into a lower carb mode.
I do not have the problem with hunger cravings that I had when I was much
more overweight now that I'm at goal, which is interesting. I assume it
means my insulin levels have dropped.

My cravings were gone again after the first day of going stricter again. I
did my Fitday for the "Going back to strict mode" day, and I was at 22
grams. I picked a sample day when I was being slack, and tried to remember
what I ate on the worst day, and it was 110 grams. I didn't eat like that
every day, just too many days like that interspersed throughout the month
added up and resulted in losing 4 pounds instead of the previous 8,
cravings coming back, and lack of energy.


Just remember: Fear of carbs leads to the final "I lost 100 pounds low
carbing, maintained for two years, and then gained it all back" behavior we
see people posting here from time to time.Learn how to make a reasonable
amount of carbs part of your ongoing plan and you'll maintain just fine. I
am.

-- Jenny

168.5/137

Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now



Thanks. I will be adding in more carbs when I get to goal, but the
healthier ones, not the junk I was snacking on last month.


--
-Michelle Levin (Luna)
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna

Luna wrote in message .. .
After basically taking a whole month off plan, ok, not quite that bad, but
some popcorn here, a chocolate bar there, too many chicken nuggets,
skipping workouts, it is nice to be back on track the last two days. I
even had a salad for lunch, something I haven't done in a good long while,
and it was yummy and I feel healthier already! Ok, actually I feel kinda
crappy, got the fuzzy head and dizziness back, but that just goes to show
how badly I was doing when I slackened up for the last month. Yesterday
was my "back on track" today, and man, the cravings were back. Today's
good though, not hungry at all between meals, and keeping the portions
reasonable. So far just a cheeseburger for breakfast and that salad for
lunch, not even hungry for dinner yet. Yay!

breast reduction. your insurance might cover it.

Luna Dear,

I am so glad that I read this thread. I have been eating way to much
Peanut butter and flirting with tastes of ice cream, a bite of bread,
a nibble of muffin, and a few M&M's now and then. I am still losing
weight, but at a much slower pace.

This thread has motivated me. I really appreciate what Jenny said. I
do believe that we have to learn to live with Carbs and not fear them.
If I do an "all or nothing" approach as has been demanded by some
posters, it will surely turn into nothing and I will gain back that 36
lbs! I need to live in a real world that allows me an occasional taste
of a delicacy. I can do that once or twice a month and be very very
happy as I get skinny!

Luna, you are awesome to share your experiences. They help everyone.

Ruby