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Old October 7th, 2011, 08:39 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:22:24 +1000, Who_me?
wrote:

On 7/10/2011 5:41 AM, Dogman wrote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:42:59 +1000,
wrote:

[...]
He loathes America
and everything we stand for.

We? You are now the official US spokesperson?


Yeah, we. I represent the majority of Americans.


Did your alarm clock fail to go off? You appear to be dreaming.

Snip nonsense.


Yeah, you have to "snip the nonsense" because you have nothing to
refute it.

We just made the mistake of trying to save South Vietnam
from communist despots, engaging in a war that could
not be won for a variety of reasons.

No you didn't.


Yes, we did. That's why I was there.


I was there, but somehow I doubt that you were. You would have more
awareness if you had been.


I dropped out of college to serve my country. I was among the first
Marines (3rd MEB)to land in Da Nang. And no one as clueless as you
seem to be about the Vietnam War ever served in-country.

You're a ****ty little liar, from a ****ty little country.

The US Government made a point of publicising, heavily
and widely publicising the reason why they invaded Vietnam. It wasn't to
"save" South Vietnam. Do some research. Google the "Domino Theory".


For someone with a supposedly eidetic memory and member of Mensa,
you're an awfully stupid person.


Why? What I said is absolutely valid.


What you said is totally wrong. We went to Vietnam to "save" the South
from being overrun with commie pinkos like you.

In case you forgot (more likely, you never knew), the North (commies)
was attacking the South. With the help of China.

If you know anything at all about the Domino Theory, it was that once
communism got a foothold in Southeast Asia, other countries would fall
like "dominoes," i.e., other countries would be pressed into
communism. That's what we were fighting against. The spread of
communism. You can look it up.


Hang about, a post or so back you were claiming that America attacked
North Vietnam in order to save South Vietnam. Once I mention the Domino
theory you change your tune and ask me if "I" know anything about it.
You're losing it dim bulb.


You don't even know who you're responding to anymore, if you ever did.
Trader said that, and he was right. We attacked the North who were (at
the time) in the South, to SAVE the South from being overrun. To SAVE
them from communism. Thus, the Domino Theory.

"The domino theory was used by successive United States administrations
during the Cold War to clarify the need for American intervention around
the world."


It was a pretty good theory at the time. See: South Korea.


It was rubbish then and now. The US has no right to decide what type of
Government other countries have.


And we didn't. The South didn't want to become communist. They were
(and still are) ardent capitalists. And we supported their desire to
remain capitalists.

You know who the Vietnamese hate the most today? Yes, the French, from
that ****ty little country of France, for trying to colonialize them.

I've been back to Vietnam, and almost without exception, the folks in
the south still like Americans.

It is nice to see that you now accept
that America is a war-mongering nation


If you attack our friends, if you attempt to overthrow our friends, if
you attempt to spread communism, you're going to have to deal with us.

That's not "war-mongoring." That's DEFENDING FREEDOM.

- but you can stop trying to
justify its actions. There is no justification. They made no political
difference, they just killed a lot of people.


We killed a lot of commies. Which is always a "good thing."

Sometimes, as in the case of
South Korea, we win and the results have been freedom,
peace and prosperity for millions. Look at North Korea, where
millions are starving, subjugated, compared to Soth Korea which has a
booming economy and a high standard of living. Sometimes it doesn't
work. Thing is, guys like you always go to the times it
doesn't and try to use that against the USA. How about
when we saved your asses in WWII? Was that just
another unwarranted war?

You won the 2nd World War? Dream on. The US was a part of it, along with
all the allied countries.


Yes, and without the U.S., you'd be speaking German today.


Possibly, but that does not excuse all the instances when America, (just
like Germany) has attacked other countries simply because they don't
agree with their politics or religion etc.


We're against communism. If you try to spread communism by force,
you're going to have to deal with us. Again, it's called DEFENDING
FREEDOM. And that's a good thing, unless you're a freakin' commie.

In that instance the US was attacked - Pearl Harbour. It is one case
where it was justified, but this thread is about the times where America
has attacked another country without military provocation.


Iraq didn't attack the US, and it had no WMDs and the US lost that
one.


We defeated Saddam's regime in three freakin' weeks!


No you didn't, you simply change the type of warfare to one you couldn't
win.


We totally destroyed the regime in 3 weeks! 3 WEEKS! Then we got
sidetracked into "nation building." That was a mistake, but it was
done with the best of intentions.

And then we made
the mistake of playing footsie with them, instead of wiping them out.


So genocide was the answer. Careful, your jingoism is sowing.


What genocide??? They were attacking our troops! With the help of the
freakin' Iranians!

Iraq conducted an unprovoked invasion of Kuwait. As
part of their surrender in that war, Iraq agreed to disclose
fully their WMD programs, account for all weapons,
and give full access to the UN weapons inspectors.
In actuality they never complied with the weapons
inspections, nor did they fully account for their WMDs.

They didn't HAVE any you fool.

US, British, Israeli and Russian intelligence all believed
he had active WMD programs.

Absolute crap. The US Government claimed that it had evidence - but lied.


Read this:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp


Why? It doesn't support your stance, it supports mine.


It supports mine, because it showed how widely the intelligence was
known. Again, even your ****ty little country said that Saddam had
anthrax stockpiles ("The French government also believed that Saddam
had stockpiles of anthrax and botulism toxin, and the ability to
produce VX" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War).

Your ****ty little country also helped Saddam's henchmen leave Iraq
for Europe (On Tuesday, the Washington Times quoted U.S. officials as
saying that France had helped Saddam aides escape Syria. The newspaper
said France supplied passports to senior Iraqi officials to allow them
to travel to Europe.
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/read...px?ARTID=18317)

What a ****ty little country France is.

spit

Payback's gonna be a bitch.

And Trader is correct: the intelligence agencies of the U.S., British,
Israeli, plus those of Saudi Arabia and even your ****ty little
country of France (who said he had anthrax stockpiles, you can look it
up), and others, all agreed that he had WMDs. And the Wikileaks dump
proved that he actually had them.

Afghanistan didn't attack the US and the US is losing that one.

Actually, they most certainly did. They attacked the USA
by openly supporting Al-Qaeda and allowing them to have
terrorist training camps in Afghanistan.

That is not an attack. Borrow a dictionary.


The Afghan government had in effect been taken over by the Taliban,
and the Taliban worked with Al Qaeda to plan the ATTACK on the World
Trade Center, etc.

And one doesn't need a dictionary to understand that, just a brain.


In that case you definitely need a dictionary.


See? Again, you can't refute the facts, so you just ignore them.

[...]
None of the countries that America has invaded has done do. Do you know
no history at all?

He obviously has a good grasp of history, unlike you.

That is funny. I quote accurate history, he makes nonsense claims.


Every single claim I've made is backed up by irrefutable sources.


Comic books are not irrefutable.


You're pathetic. As with typical lefties, facts mean absolutely
nothing to you. You spend all your energy trying to revise history,
not learning from it.

Yes. If they can't stand up for
themselves (the people who just want to be left alone to live their
lives in peace) by now, they never will. So it's time to come home.
We've killed most of the bad guys already, and we can always go back.

The US has killed tens of thousands of innocent people, women and
children, aged people among them. They have killed very few "bad guys"
by comparison.

Go ask the Iraqi people if they are happy to be free now
and if it was worth it.

They are suing the US Government for billions. Aren't you aware of that?
The are NOT happy with the rape of their country by the US.


No, the terrorists aren't very happy with us, but the people of Iraq
are.


Bull****. I lived there before the invasion and I went back last year.
America is despised and hated by everyone who I spoke to.


The only people who someone like you would know are Saddam loyalists,
and it figures that you both would hate us.

Before the
invasion Baghdad was a safe and pleasant city


Unbelievable! You sound like a Nazi trying to excuse Nazism (Hey,
Berlin was the cleanest city in Europe!), or like a Facsist trying to
excuse Fascism (Hey, the trains ran on time!). Unfortuantely, this
didn't include the Jews and others who were against tthe totalitarian
regimes. Baghdad was safe for Saddaam loyalists. Period. Everyone
else was subject to incarceration, rape, torture, and murder. He
gassed his own people in the North, and he murdered the Marsh Arabs in
the south, and destroyed their villages.

It figures, that someone from your ****ty little country would find
this excusable.

We've taken out the regime that was responsible for raping and
murdering its own citizens. Now it's up to them.


No, what you did was open the door to the Islamic radicals. They are
worse than Saddam.


It's pretty damn near impossible to be worse that Saddam.

[...]
Your own congress a few years ago was complaining about
the cost, the fact that the US was firing nearly 240,000 round for every
hit on an enemy combatant. Spray and pray your troops call it. Guess how
many rounds, the British, Australians, even the Japanese fired for each
hit? Google for it if you feel like cringing in embarrassment.


That's bull caca. You're confusing Vietnam with Iraq, but the count
was high in WWII. too. But what you don't mention is that this
includes all the TRAINING rounds fired.


No you dimwit, it was five or six years ago and related to expenditure
in Iraq.


Post proof or retract!

You are the embarrassment.

Oh no I'm not. I don't have a government that I like, but also I don't
have a government that I am ashamed of. I also don't have to feel
embarrassed by my country's military incompetence.


Incompetence, huh? I wonder what Saddam and Osama bin Laden would say
about that?


Well as it took a decade to get bin Laden, he would probably say "Thank
God the Americans are so incompetent."


It took 10 years, but he's dead, isn't he? And so are almost all of
his leutenants and underlings. Al Qaeda is a shell of its former self.

I wonder what the Iraqi military would say about that?


I don't know, whenever you mention American Military they won't stop
laughing for long enough to say anything.


You mean the few who survived?

France?

spit

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Old October 8th, 2011, 05:18 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Who_me?
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On 8/10/2011 5:39 AM, Dogman wrote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:22:24 +1000,
wrote:

On 7/10/2011 5:41 AM, Dogman wrote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:42:59 +1000,
wrote:

[...]
He loathes America
and everything we stand for.

We? You are now the official US spokesperson?

Yeah, we. I represent the majority of Americans.


Did your alarm clock fail to go off? You appear to be dreaming.

Snip nonsense.


Yeah, you have to "snip the nonsense" because you have nothing to
refute it.

We just made the mistake of trying to save South Vietnam
from communist despots, engaging in a war that could
not be won for a variety of reasons.

No you didn't.

Yes, we did. That's why I was there.


I was there, but somehow I doubt that you were. You would have more
awareness if you had been.


I dropped out of college to serve my country. I was among the first
Marines (3rd MEB)to land in Da Nang. And no one as clueless as you
seem to be about the Vietnam War ever served in-country.


I don't believe you. You would have more political awareness about the
era if that was so.


You're a ****ty little liar, from a ****ty little country.


You can't get anything right - can you?

Firstly, I am from a country similar in size to the US - it isn't little
and it certainly isn't ****ty. We have a much higher standard of living
than the US. Secondly, your pathetic lack of real knowledge is almost
embarrassing. You parrot US propaganda, your concept of history seems to
be based on US press release and jingoistic American movies, comic
books, or TV shows.


The US Government made a point of publicising, heavily
and widely publicising the reason why they invaded Vietnam. It wasn't to
"save" South Vietnam. Do some research. Google the "Domino Theory".

For someone with a supposedly eidetic memory and member of Mensa,
you're an awfully stupid person.


Why? What I said is absolutely valid.


What you said is totally wrong. We went to Vietnam to "save" the South
from being overrun with commie pinkos like you.


Then why did your own government claim to have entirely different
reasons? The US did a lot of international bull****ting at the start of
the conflict - much like the bull**** about WMDs more recently. They
have now lost all international trust.

Let me know if ever you have something that can be supported with
documented evidence that doesn't originate in some US made war movie or
similar. That probably won't happen, as I doubt that you can tell the
difference.



In case you forgot (more likely, you never knew), the North (commies)
was attacking the South. With the help of China.


So what? It wasn't anything to do with the US, it had been going on for
more than a century and all the US did is cost lives - they won NOTHING.


If you know anything at all about the Domino Theory, it was that once
communism got a foothold in Southeast Asia, other countries would fall
like "dominoes," i.e., other countries would be pressed into
communism. That's what we were fighting against. The spread of
communism. You can look it up.


Hang about, a post or so back you were claiming that America attacked
North Vietnam in order to save South Vietnam. Once I mention the Domino
theory you change your tune and ask me if "I" know anything about it.
You're losing it dim bulb.


You don't even know who you're responding to anymore, if you ever did.
Trader said that, and he was right. We attacked the North who were (at
the time) in the South, to SAVE the South from being overrun. To SAVE
them from communism. Thus, the Domino Theory.


Bull****. Why did your president say - on television, at the onset of
the Vietnam conflict - in a world wide address, that they were fighting
world communism? Not Vietnamese communism. In other words, America
decided that it didn't like a valid political system and decided to
attack countries that supported it? Only countries that they thought -
mistakenly - that they could beat. They didn't attack Russia as they
knew that in that case they would definitely get their asses kicked.


"The domino theory was used by successive United States administrations
during the Cold War to clarify the need for American intervention around
the world."

It was a pretty good theory at the time. See: South Korea.


It was rubbish then and now. The US has no right to decide what type of
Government other countries have.


And we didn't. The South didn't want to become communist. They were
(and still are) ardent capitalists. And we supported their desire to
remain capitalists.


Not altruistically, America was using them for America's own political
agenda.

You know who the Vietnamese hate the most today? Yes, the French, from
that ****ty little country of France, for trying to colonialize them.


Why do so many speak French? The French are still there - not the
military, but the French colonialists. After three hundred years they
are a part of the country.

I've been back to Vietnam, and almost without exception, the folks in
the south still like Americans.


More nonsense. They tolerate tourists but any families who lost
relatives, and that is most - despise the US.


It is nice to see that you now accept
that America is a war-mongering nation


If you attack our friends, if you attempt to overthrow our friends, if
you attempt to spread communism, you're going to have to deal with us.


America has no friends. My country once supported America, we fought
alongside it, but it would bring down our Government if they were to try
to support America again. The people have had enough of the "US BS" and
bullying Big Brother politics.


That's not "war-mongoring." That's DEFENDING FREEDOM.


That is parroting US propaganda.


- but you can stop trying to
justify its actions. There is no justification. They made no political
difference, they just killed a lot of people.


We killed a lot of commies. Which is always a "good thing."


Why? Communism, even if you don't agree with it - and I don't - is still
a valid political system. What gives a country the right to kill people
who endorse a political system that they disprove of, and without direct
provocation.

You clearly are as bad as those in the Bush regime. You support killing
people just because you don't like something about them. Those who
attacked the World Trade Centre did the same, but they had a lot of
provocation. What they did was wrong, very wrong, but they were
following a precedent set by US foreign policy over several decades.

Why is what they did so different to what the US has done for decades?
Attack and kill people who follow an ideology that they don't agree
with? if you could attack and kill those in the US who follow a
political party that you don't agree with - would you do it? They say
that the Tea Party is stockpiling arms. Is this where the next conflict
will be - domestic?

You are a politically and historically naive puppet. You have no empathy
for the millions who have been killed or harmed by US foreign policy,
and your concept of history is based on propaganda.

You are an unpleasant, slow witted, barely literate fool.

At least your current president - who unlike you has access to real
facts and real history - has made attempts to apologise for America's
actions over the past decades. Why is that if these things didn't (as
you claim) happen? Was he bored and had nothing better to do?

Let's leave it at that, no point in arguing with a xenophobic closed
minded bigot. Your own President disagrees with you, he knows exactly
what America has done, he understands the damage it has caused to
millions, and he takes every opportunity to apologise. It won't change
International opinion of the US overnight, but it is a start, a step
toward conciliation.

I am back at work from tomorrow, my body cast is off, my final stitches
out and I have already started physiotherapy. Although arguing with
fools helped pass the time whilst recuperating, it isn't productive.
America is circling the drain, it can't get its political act together,
it is bankrupt, and it has no friends. It will be sad to watch, as
although I don't like US governments, I do like US people, but it is
going to follow in the footsteps of the Soviet Union and collapse.

China, the world's next political and economical super-power holds its
mortgage, it cannot compete in a world market trade-wise as it cannot
manufacture anything at a cost that is competitive. It cannot survive on
export - it has nothing significant of value to export. The future looks
grim even to the optimists. I am glad that I don't live there.

Like all empires before it, America has passed its use by date and the
marks left on history are not of greatness, they are of greed, bullying
and pettiness. At least the Romans and the British left an impression on
history that they could be proud of, unlike the US.

I wonder what the era of Chinese domination will be like?

Good luck finding, let alone following - the American dream






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Old October 8th, 2011, 02:11 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Oct 8, 12:18*am, Who_me? wrote:
On 8/10/2011 5:39 AM, Dogman wrote:





On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:22:24 +1000,
wrote:


On 7/10/2011 5:41 AM, Dogman wrote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:42:59 +1000,
wrote:

[...]
He loathes America
and everything we stand for.


We? You are now the official US spokesperson?


Yeah, we. *I represent the majority of Americans.


Did your alarm clock fail to go off? You appear to be dreaming.


Snip nonsense.


Yeah, you have to "snip the nonsense" because you have nothing to
refute it.


We just made the mistake of trying to save South Vietnam
from communist despots, engaging in a war that could
not be won for a variety of reasons.


No you didn't.


Yes, we did. That's why I was there.


I was there, but somehow I doubt that you were. You would have more
awareness if you had been.


I dropped out of college to serve my country. *I was among the first
Marines (3rd MEB)to land in Da Nang. And no one as clueless as you
seem to be about the Vietnam War ever served in-country.


I don't believe you. You would have more political awareness about the
era if that was so.


I believe him. He sounds like a true American to
me.




You're a ****ty little liar, from a ****ty little country.


You can't get anything right - can you?

Firstly, I am from a country similar in size to the US - it isn't little
and it certainly isn't ****ty.



The above is the clearest example yet of how
stupid you are. France is about twice the size
of Colorado. I bet you lie about the size of your
penis too.





We have a much higher standard of living
than the US.


Wrong again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...elopment_Index

The USA is ranked 4th in the world. France is 14.
Ahead of France are Ireland, Canada, Sweden,
Germany, Japan, Switzerland, and oh, I love this
one: South Korea.

You know, that little country where according to
you the USA waged a needless war. Had we
not defended them from the commies, they would
be living like the hell hole of North Korea now.





The US Government made a point of publicising, heavily
and widely publicising the reason why they invaded Vietnam. It wasn't to
"save" South Vietnam. *Do some research. Google the "Domino Theory".


For someone with a supposedly eidetic memory and member of Mensa,
you're an awfully stupid person.


Why? What I said is absolutely valid.


What you said is totally wrong. We went to Vietnam to "save" the South
from being overrun with commie pinkos like you.


Then why did your own government claim to have entirely different
reasons? The US did a lot of international bull****ting at the start of
the conflict - much like the bull**** about WMDs more recently. They
have now lost all international trust.


That trust will come back quickly next time
some **** ant country that you choose to
ignore invades you again.




Let me know if ever you have something that can be supported with
documented evidence that doesn't originate in some US made war movie or
similar. That probably won't happen, as I doubt that you can tell the
difference.


It just did happen with the standard of living data
above, fool.



In case you forgot (more likely, you never knew), the North (commies)
was attacking the South. With the help of China.


So what? It wasn't anything to do with the US, it had been going on for
more than a century and all the US did is cost lives - they won NOTHING.


Following that logic, when Germany attacked France,
it was nothing to do with the USA either.
We could have just said, not our problem. But we
didn't do that, did we? Actually, we focused the
initial war effort MORE on Europe.






If you know anything at all about the Domino Theory, it was that once
communism got a foothold in Southeast Asia, other countries would fall
like "dominoes," i.e., other countries would be pressed into
communism. That's what we were fighting against. The spread of
communism. You can look it up.


Hang about, a post or so back you were claiming that America attacked
North Vietnam in order to save South Vietnam. Once I mention the Domino
theory you change your tune and ask me if "I" know anything about it.
You're losing it dim bulb.


You don't even know who you're responding to anymore, if you ever did.
Trader said that, and he was right. We attacked the North who were (at
the time) in the South, to SAVE the South from being overrun. *To SAVE


* them from communism. Thus, the Domino Theory.

Bull****. Why did your president say - on television, at the onset of
the Vietnam conflict - in a world wide address, that they were fighting
world communism? Not Vietnamese communism. In other words, America
decided that it didn't like a valid political system and decided to
attack countries that supported it?


A valid political system. So, depite claiming to be
right wing, you are a card carrying commie, aren't
you? That political system enslaved people with
no basic human rights. Stalin committed genocide
under that "valid" govt system, killing 20 mil people.
How many millions are dying today in North Korea
under that system? What happened to the students
in China who dared to question their govt? Only
a fool would think communism is a vaild govt
system. It only works by taking away freedom
by force.



Only countries that they thought -
mistakenly - that they could beat. They didn't attack Russia as they
knew that in that case they would definitely get their asses kicked.



Oh, please. At the end of WWII, the USA had the
atomic bomb and Russia didn't. If we were the war
mongering nation you believe us to be, we could
have creamed them. And maybe we should have
creamed them enough to kick their asses out of
Eastern Europe instead of letting all those countries
become serf states of Russia.





"The domino theory was used by successive United States administrations
during the Cold War to clarify the need for American intervention around
the world."


It was a pretty good theory at the time. *See: South Korea.


It was rubbish then and now. The US has no right to decide what type of
Government other countries have.


We never decided what govt any country should have.
We did help countries defend themselves against
COMMUNIST AGRESSION. Like when North Korea
attacked South Korea. Or North Vietnam invaded
South Vietnam. Or when we put our asses on the
line risking nuclear war to keep the Russian out
of West Germany and Taiwan.




And we didn't. *The South didn't want to become communist. *They were
(and still are) ardent capitalists. *And we supported their desire to
remain capitalists.


Not altruistically, America was using them for America's own political
agenda.


Yeah, just like we used the French when we saved
you from the Germans who through your own
stupidity and weakness, you were incapable of
handling yourself.



You know who the Vietnamese hate the most today? Yes, the French, from
that ****ty little country of France, for trying to colonialize them.


Why do so many speak French? The French are still there - not the
military, but the French colonialists. After three hundred years they
are a part of the country.

I've been back to Vietnam, and almost without exception, the folks in
the south still like Americans.


More nonsense. They tolerate tourists but any families who lost
relatives, and that is most - despise the US.



Sure they do. That's why when your commie friends
from the North finally overran the South, you saw
boatloads of people, hundreds of thousands, fleeing
on anything that would float to escape the country.
And where did most of them go? To France?
No, they came here, to the land of the free, USA.





It is nice to see that you now accept
that America is a war-mongering nation


If you attack our friends, if you attempt to overthrow our friends, if
you attempt to spread communism, you're going to have to deal with us.


America has no friends. My country once supported America, we fought
alongside it, but it would bring down our Government if they were to try
to support America again. The people have had enough of the "US BS" and
bullying Big Brother politics.


Yes, like so many other countries, you'll be our friend
again when you need us.


- but you can stop trying to
justify its actions. There is no justification. They made no political
difference, they just killed a lot of people.


We killed a lot of commies. Which is always a "good thing."


Why? Communism, even if you don't agree with it - and I don't - is still
a valid political system.


The Nazi party was a vaild political system too.
How did that work out for you French?


What gives a country the right to kill people
who endorse a political system that they disprove of, and without direct
provocation.

You clearly are as bad as those in the Bush regime. You support killing
people just because you don't like something about them. Those who
attacked the World Trade Centre did the same, but they had a lot of
provocation.


Yeah, they sure did. We won't convert to their radical
Muslim religion. That's provocation for you. As I recall
Al-Qaeda has killed French citizens and has France
on it's target list too. Guess you all provoked them too.



What they did was wrong, very wrong, but they were
following a precedent set by US foreign policy over several decades.


An outrageous lie.


Why is what they did so different to what the US has done for decades?


That about sums up what a fool you are.



Attack and kill people who follow an ideology that they don't agree
with?


We have never attacked and killed people who follow an
ideology we did not agree with. South Vietnam was
INVADED. South Korea was INVADED. France was
INVADED. Get it now?


You are a politically and historically naive puppet.


You're what Stalin would call a useful idiot.



You have no empathy
for the millions who have been killed or harmed by US foreign policy,
and your concept of history is based on propaganda.


You have no appreciation for all the people living
in the world today that are free because of the
sacrifices this country has made. And that includes
you, Frenchy.




You are an unpleasant, slow witted, barely literate fool.

At least your current president - who unlike you has access to real
facts and real history - has made attempts to apologise for America's
actions over the past decades. Why is that if these things didn't (as
you claim) happen? Was he bored and had nothing better to do?


No, he's just another leftist, who finds fault with most
things American, unless it's run by the govt.. His election was
clearly a mistake,
the polls show he is out of touch with mainstream
America and he won't be re-elected.




Let's leave it at that, no point in arguing with a xenophobic closed
minded bigot.


Yes, you're speaking about yourself, right?


Your own President disagrees with you, he knows exactly
what America has done, he understands the damage it has caused to
millions, and he takes every opportunity to apologise. It won't change
International opinion of the US overnight, but it is a start, a step
toward conciliation.


I couldn't care less about what someone in
France thinks about the USA.



I am back at work from tomorrow, my body cast is off, my final stitches
out and I have already started physiotherapy.


Was it brain surgery?


Although arguing with
fools helped pass the time whilst recuperating, it isn't productive.
America is circling the drain, it can't get its political act together,
it is bankrupt, and it has no friends. It will be sad to watch, as
although I don't like US governments, I do like US people,


Sure you do. Those people elected those govts. The
majority stand behind this country and the good it has
done in the world. And we despise American haters
like you.



but it is
going to follow in the footsteps of the Soviet Union and collapse.

China, the world's next political and economical super-power holds its
mortgage, it cannot compete in a world market trade-wise as it cannot
manufacture anything at a cost that is competitive.


Then how is it that the USA is still the largest
manufacturer in the world? Where exactly are
the French Intels and Microsofts?



It cannot survive on
export - it has nothing significant of value to export. The future looks
grim even to the optimists. I am glad that I don't live there.


We are glad too.

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On 8/10/2011 11:11 PM, wrote:
On Oct 8, 12:18 am, wrote:
On 8/10/2011 5:39 AM, Dogman wrote:





On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:22:24 +1000,
wrote:


On 7/10/2011 5:41 AM, Dogman wrote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:42:59 +1000,
wrote:
[...]
He loathes America
and everything we stand for.


We? You are now the official US spokesperson?


Yeah, we. I represent the majority of Americans.


Did your alarm clock fail to go off? You appear to be dreaming.


Snip nonsense.


Yeah, you have to "snip the nonsense" because you have nothing to
refute it.


We just made the mistake of trying to save South Vietnam
from communist despots, engaging in a war that could
not be won for a variety of reasons.


No you didn't.


Yes, we did. That's why I was there.


I was there, but somehow I doubt that you were. You would have more
awareness if you had been.


I dropped out of college to serve my country. I was among the first
Marines (3rd MEB)to land in Da Nang. And no one as clueless as you
seem to be about the Vietnam War ever served in-country.


I don't believe you. You would have more political awareness about the
era if that was so.


I believe him. He sounds like a true American to
me.




You're a ****ty little liar, from a ****ty little country.


You can't get anything right - can you?

Firstly, I am from a country similar in size to the US - it isn't little
and it certainly isn't ****ty.



The above is the clearest example yet of how
stupid you are. France is about twice the size
of Colorado. I bet you lie about the size of your
penis too.





We have a much higher standard of living
than the US.


Wrong again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...elopment_Index

The USA is ranked 4th in the world. France is 14.
Ahead of France are Ireland, Canada, Sweden,
Germany, Japan, Switzerland, and oh, I love this
one: South Korea.

You know, that little country where according to
you the USA waged a needless war. Had we
not defended them from the commies, they would
be living like the hell hole of North Korea now.


I don't live in France - it is yet another thing that the idiot has got
wrong from the start. He doesn't seem to be able to get anything right
at all. He simply makes an assumption and charges ahead. It amuses me
not to correct him until he has dug his little hole and stepped right
into it.

I am half Texan, half Australian/British - my mother and father met in
England and migrated to Australia. I just happen to be able to speak
French, thanks to one very old French grandmother (who currently lives
in New Orleans with my cousin, her grand-daughter.)

I live in Australia, which is certainly not a little country and at the
moment has a much higher standard of living than the US. I served in the
Australian Military - Navy, not Army - and spent nearly three years in
and out of Vietnam. I am British and Australian educated, and have lived
in Canada, Africa - North & South, as well as the Middle East and
Northern Europe. I have been stationed in those places. I have a pretty
damn good idea of how the world regards the US.

In your little (human development - not standard of living) list we are
ranked second in the world, only behind Norway, a country that I am very
fond of. In standard of living - after the US caused GFC - we ranked
highest. The GFC did us the least damage.

Now this is becoming boring - discussions with the "illiterati" usually
are, and I am back at work full time next week. So you will have free
reign to spread your BS propaganda without let or hindrance. Unless
someone else with a good knowledge of modern history and US policies and
time to spare steps up.

Cheers




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On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:18:02 +1000, Who_me?
wrote:

[...]
You're a ****ty little liar, from a ****ty little country.


You can't get anything right - can you?

Firstly, I am from a country similar in size to the US - it isn't little
and it certainly isn't ****ty. We have a much higher standard of living
than the US. Secondly, your pathetic lack of real knowledge is almost
embarrassing. You parrot US propaganda, your concept of history seems to
be based on US press release and jingoistic American movies, comic
books, or TV shows.


Yeah, I love those imaginary countries, too. Your country is as
imaginary as your eidetic memory and your membership in Mensa.

[...]
What you said is totally wrong. We went to Vietnam to "save" the South
from being overrun with commie pinkos like you.


Then why did your own government claim to have entirely different
reasons? The US did a lot of international bull****ting at the start of
the conflict - much like the bull**** about WMDs more recently. They
have now lost all international trust.


Look up the term "strawman argument"; it's the only manner of argument
you excel at.

In case you forgot (more likely, you never knew), the North (commies)
was attacking the South. With the help of China.


So what? It wasn't anything to do with the US, it had been going on for
more than a century and all the US did is cost lives - they won NOTHING.


No, we didn't "win" anything. That time. But the South Koreans won.
That's a .500 batting average.

If you know anything at all about the Domino Theory, it was that once
communism got a foothold in Southeast Asia, other countries would fall
like "dominoes," i.e., other countries would be pressed into
communism. That's what we were fighting against. The spread of
communism. You can look it up.

Hang about, a post or so back you were claiming that America attacked
North Vietnam in order to save South Vietnam. Once I mention the Domino
theory you change your tune and ask me if "I" know anything about it.
You're losing it dim bulb.


You don't even know who you're responding to anymore, if you ever did.
Trader said that, and he was right. We attacked the North who were (at
the time) in the South, to SAVE the South from being overrun. To SAVE
them from communism. Thus, the Domino Theory.


Bull****. Why did your president say - on television, at the onset of
the Vietnam conflict - in a world wide address, that they were fighting
world communism? Not Vietnamese communism.


Are you really this dense? You are to Mensa what Roseanne Barr is to
Weight Watchers.

We fight world communist expansion plans by fighting North Vietnamese
aggression in the South. Got it? One "domino" at a time.

You need to brush up on your Domino Theory, ya freakin' maroon.

[...]
And we didn't. The South didn't want to become communist. They were
(and still are) ardent capitalists. And we supported their desire to
remain capitalists.


Not altruistically, America was using them for America's own political
agenda.


What political agenda?

You know who the Vietnamese hate the most today? Yes, the French, from
that ****ty little country of France, for trying to colonialize them.


Why do so many speak French?


The same reason French Canadians speak French. Because they're too
stupid to learn English.

I've been back to Vietnam, and almost without exception, the folks in
the south still like Americans.


More nonsense. They tolerate tourists but any families who lost
relatives, and that is most - despise the US.


I couldn't have been welcomed more warmly by the vast majority of
Vietnamese people I met (and I met thousands), and they knew my of
background. Sure, some weren't so warm; they were very French-like.

I.e., they were assholes.

It is nice to see that you now accept
that America is a war-mongering nation


If you attack our friends, if you attempt to overthrow our friends, if
you attempt to spread communism, you're going to have to deal with us.


America has no friends.


Sure we do. When the **** hits the fan (as it will again), we're the
first country that others turn to. Even that ****ty little country
France, and GB, couldn't support the Libyan rebels without our help.

And Americans understand that. The less "friends" we officially have,
the less often we're drawn into the petty grievances of Europeans.

And that's a good thing.

That's not "war-mongoring." That's DEFENDING FREEDOM.


That is parroting US propaganda.


It's called telling the truth. Not revising history to suit your
political agenda.

- but you can stop trying to
justify its actions. There is no justification. They made no political
difference, they just killed a lot of people.


We killed a lot of commies. Which is always a "good thing."


Why?


Because communism is even worse than nazism. It needs to be
fought/contained whenever possible. Communism has killed more human
beings than any other "ism."

You clearly are as bad as those in the Bush regime. You support killing
people just because you don't like something about them.


I support killing people who kill their own people, who make slaves of
them, you send them to gulags, who starve them to death, etc.

Yessirree Bob.

Why is what they did so different to what the US has done for decades?
Attack and kill people who follow an ideology that they don't agree
with? if you could attack and kill those in the US who follow a
political party that you don't agree with - would you do it? They say
that the Tea Party is stockpiling arms. Is this where the next conflict
will be - domestic?


Who says that? The Nation magazine? Please. The Tea Party stands for
Taxed Enough Already, got it? They are mostly older folks who are
tired of having their tax dollars wasted. Period. The lefty media
enjoys making them out to be the boogeyman, because it suits their
political agenda.

I, on the other hand, am heavily armed, have always been heavily
armed, and will always be heavily armed.

See: Second Amendment

You are an unpleasant, slow witted, barely literate fool.


And you are a foul, smelly, lying, imbecilic asshole from a ****ty
little country.


Let's leave it at that, no point in arguing with a xenophobic closed
minded bigot. Your own President disagrees with you,


Thank you, Lord! Thank you, Lord!

If that empty-suit of a president ever agreed with my, I'd seriously
reconsider my position!

He's a radical left winger, and I despise him with every fiber of my
being.

The only way I could despise him more would be to find out that he was
French.

I am back at work from tomorrow, my body cast is off,


Had your ass kicked, did you?

I am glad that I don't live there.


We're pretty happy about that too!

Like all empires before it, America has passed its use by date


We've never been an empire; we've never longed to be one. Unlike that
****ty little country of yours.

And we may have our problems at the moment, but they aren't problems
that every other country isn't having too, including China.

I wonder what the era of Chinese domination will be like?


You'll never know, because it will never happen. Their success is a
double-edged sword. Making all those people happy and content is
easier said than done.

When they actually INVENT something besides Chow Mein, then I'll start
worrying.

Bub bye, you ****ty little man.

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On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 01:13:30 +1000, Who_me?
wrote:

[...]
I am half Texan, half Australian/British - my mother and father met in
England and migrated to Australia. I just happen to be able to speak
French, thanks to one very old French grandmother (who currently lives
in New Orleans with my cousin, her grand-daughter.)


Then according to the "one drop" rule, that still makes you a ****ty
little Frenchman!

Heh.

I live in Australia, which is certainly not a little country and at the
moment has a much higher standard of living than the US. I served in the
Australian Military - Navy, not Army - and spent nearly three years in
and out of Vietnam. I am British and Australian educated, and have lived
in Canada, Africa - North & South, as well as the Middle East and
Northern Europe. I have been stationed in those places. I have a pretty
damn good idea of how the world regards the US.


No, you don't. You only have a very good idea of how other commie
pinkos feel about the U.S., because if you talked this way to normal
people, you'd spend your entire life in a full body cast.

And in case you've forgotten (or you never knew), over 60,000
Australians fought in Vietnam, alongside Americans. Yes, I made
friends with many of them, and they loved Americans. And boy could
they drink! We loved the Aussies, too. Australians have fought
alongside Americans in many, many wars and conflicts. I also visited
Australia during the America's Cup in Perth, and every single
Australian I met along the way loved Americans. Many of them wanted to
move here. But then, they were normal Australians, not the commie
pinko variety you represent.

So I'm not going to hold it against the rest of Australia, just
because you happen to be Australian. We have no shortage of commie
pinko loons ourselves, so....

PS: Without America, and the U.S. Marines, you might be speaking
Japanese today. You were in no position to defend Australia from the
Japs while your boys were off defending Britain in WWII. So we
defended your country for you. Your own PM begged us to help prevent a
Japanese invasion of Australia, and we did just that. You can look it
up.

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Heh Dogman, here's a big issue for the troll we
overlooked. He claims it's the USA that goes around
the world attacking countries that did not attack
us, right? Well, what exactly are his bleoved and
peaceful French doing
in Libya? They were the prime instigator to
get foreign intervention in Libya this very year. And
French aircraft were bombing Libya and killing Libyans.
Yet, Libya had not attacked France. What a hypocrite.

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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:58:15 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

Heh Dogman, here's a big issue for the troll we
overlooked. He claims it's the USA that goes around
the world attacking countries that did not attack
us, right? Well, what exactly are his bleoved and
peaceful French doing
in Libya? They were the prime instigator to
get foreign intervention in Libya this very year. And
French aircraft were bombing Libya and killing Libyans.
Yet, Libya had not attacked France. What a hypocrite.


You bet, Trader. And it's all about Libyan OIL (France buys 1/3 of
Libya's oil).

France otherwise couldn't care less about the Libyan people.

France?

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This is an "Off-Topic" post. It has zip to do with low carbing. Take it
to a different venue.

In article
,
" wrote:

On Oct 8, 12:18*am, Who_me? wrote:
On 8/10/2011 5:39 AM, Dogman wrote:





On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:22:24 +1000,
wrote:


On 7/10/2011 5:41 AM, Dogman wrote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:42:59 +1000,
wrote:
[...]
He loathes America
and everything we stand for.


We? You are now the official US spokesperson?


Yeah, we. *I represent the majority of Americans.


Did your alarm clock fail to go off? You appear to be dreaming.


Snip nonsense.


Yeah, you have to "snip the nonsense" because you have nothing to
refute it.


We just made the mistake of trying to save South Vietnam
from communist despots, engaging in a war that could
not be won for a variety of reasons.


No you didn't.


Yes, we did. That's why I was there.


I was there, but somehow I doubt that you were. You would have more
awareness if you had been.


I dropped out of college to serve my country. *I was among the first
Marines (3rd MEB)to land in Da Nang. And no one as clueless as you
seem to be about the Vietnam War ever served in-country.


I don't believe you. You would have more political awareness about the
era if that was so.


I believe him. He sounds like a true American to
me.




You're a ****ty little liar, from a ****ty little country.


You can't get anything right - can you?

Firstly, I am from a country similar in size to the US - it isn't little
and it certainly isn't ****ty.



The above is the clearest example yet of how
stupid you are. France is about twice the size
of Colorado. I bet you lie about the size of your
penis too.





We have a much higher standard of living
than the US.


Wrong again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...elopment_Index

The USA is ranked 4th in the world. France is 14.
Ahead of France are Ireland, Canada, Sweden,
Germany, Japan, Switzerland, and oh, I love this
one: South Korea.

You know, that little country where according to
you the USA waged a needless war. Had we
not defended them from the commies, they would
be living like the hell hole of North Korea now.





The US Government made a point of publicising, heavily
and widely publicising the reason why they invaded Vietnam. It wasn't
to
"save" South Vietnam. *Do some research. Google the "Domino Theory".


For someone with a supposedly eidetic memory and member of Mensa,
you're an awfully stupid person.


Why? What I said is absolutely valid.


What you said is totally wrong. We went to Vietnam to "save" the South
from being overrun with commie pinkos like you.


Then why did your own government claim to have entirely different
reasons? The US did a lot of international bull****ting at the start of
the conflict - much like the bull**** about WMDs more recently. They
have now lost all international trust.


That trust will come back quickly next time
some **** ant country that you choose to
ignore invades you again.




Let me know if ever you have something that can be supported with
documented evidence that doesn't originate in some US made war movie or
similar. That probably won't happen, as I doubt that you can tell the
difference.


It just did happen with the standard of living data
above, fool.



In case you forgot (more likely, you never knew), the North (commies)
was attacking the South. With the help of China.


So what? It wasn't anything to do with the US, it had been going on for
more than a century and all the US did is cost lives - they won NOTHING.


Following that logic, when Germany attacked France,
it was nothing to do with the USA either.
We could have just said, not our problem. But we
didn't do that, did we? Actually, we focused the
initial war effort MORE on Europe.






If you know anything at all about the Domino Theory, it was that once
communism got a foothold in Southeast Asia, other countries would fall
like "dominoes," i.e., other countries would be pressed into
communism. That's what we were fighting against. The spread of
communism. You can look it up.


Hang about, a post or so back you were claiming that America attacked
North Vietnam in order to save South Vietnam. Once I mention the Domino
theory you change your tune and ask me if "I" know anything about it.
You're losing it dim bulb.


You don't even know who you're responding to anymore, if you ever did.
Trader said that, and he was right. We attacked the North who were (at
the time) in the South, to SAVE the South from being overrun. *To SAVE


* them from communism. Thus, the Domino Theory.

Bull****. Why did your president say - on television, at the onset of
the Vietnam conflict - in a world wide address, that they were fighting
world communism? Not Vietnamese communism. In other words, America
decided that it didn't like a valid political system and decided to
attack countries that supported it?


A valid political system. So, depite claiming to be
right wing, you are a card carrying commie, aren't
you? That political system enslaved people with
no basic human rights. Stalin committed genocide
under that "valid" govt system, killing 20 mil people.
How many millions are dying today in North Korea
under that system? What happened to the students
in China who dared to question their govt? Only
a fool would think communism is a vaild govt
system. It only works by taking away freedom
by force.



Only countries that they thought -
mistakenly - that they could beat. They didn't attack Russia as they
knew that in that case they would definitely get their asses kicked.



Oh, please. At the end of WWII, the USA had the
atomic bomb and Russia didn't. If we were the war
mongering nation you believe us to be, we could
have creamed them. And maybe we should have
creamed them enough to kick their asses out of
Eastern Europe instead of letting all those countries
become serf states of Russia.





"The domino theory was used by successive United States
administrations
during the Cold War to clarify the need for American intervention
around
the world."


It was a pretty good theory at the time. *See: South Korea.


It was rubbish then and now. The US has no right to decide what type of
Government other countries have.


We never decided what govt any country should have.
We did help countries defend themselves against
COMMUNIST AGRESSION. Like when North Korea
attacked South Korea. Or North Vietnam invaded
South Vietnam. Or when we put our asses on the
line risking nuclear war to keep the Russian out
of West Germany and Taiwan.




And we didn't. *The South didn't want to become communist. *They were
(and still are) ardent capitalists. *And we supported their desire to
remain capitalists.


Not altruistically, America was using them for America's own political
agenda.


Yeah, just like we used the French when we saved
you from the Germans who through your own
stupidity and weakness, you were incapable of
handling yourself.



You know who the Vietnamese hate the most today? Yes, the French, from
that ****ty little country of France, for trying to colonialize them.


Why do so many speak French? The French are still there - not the
military, but the French colonialists. After three hundred years they
are a part of the country.

I've been back to Vietnam, and almost without exception, the folks in
the south still like Americans.


More nonsense. They tolerate tourists but any families who lost
relatives, and that is most - despise the US.



Sure they do. That's why when your commie friends
from the North finally overran the South, you saw
boatloads of people, hundreds of thousands, fleeing
on anything that would float to escape the country.
And where did most of them go? To France?
No, they came here, to the land of the free, USA.





It is nice to see that you now accept
that America is a war-mongering nation


If you attack our friends, if you attempt to overthrow our friends, if
you attempt to spread communism, you're going to have to deal with us.


America has no friends. My country once supported America, we fought
alongside it, but it would bring down our Government if they were to try
to support America again. The people have had enough of the "US BS" and
bullying Big Brother politics.


Yes, like so many other countries, you'll be our friend
again when you need us.


- but you can stop trying to
justify its actions. There is no justification. They made no political
difference, they just killed a lot of people.


We killed a lot of commies. Which is always a "good thing."


Why? Communism, even if you don't agree with it - and I don't - is still
a valid political system.


The Nazi party was a vaild political system too.
How did that work out for you French?


What gives a country the right to kill people
who endorse a political system that they disprove of, and without direct
provocation.

You clearly are as bad as those in the Bush regime. You support killing
people just because you don't like something about them. Those who
attacked the World Trade Centre did the same, but they had a lot of
provocation.


Yeah, they sure did. We won't convert to their radical
Muslim religion. That's provocation for you. As I recall
Al-Qaeda has killed French citizens and has France
on it's target list too. Guess you all provoked them too.



What they did was wrong, very wrong, but they were
following a precedent set by US foreign policy over several decades.


An outrageous lie.


Why is what they did so different to what the US has done for decades?


That about sums up what a fool you are.



Attack and kill people who follow an ideology that they don't agree
with?


We have never attacked and killed people who follow an
ideology we did not agree with. South Vietnam was
INVADED. South Korea was INVADED. France was
INVADED. Get it now?


You are a politically and historically naive puppet.


You're what Stalin would call a useful idiot.



You have no empathy
for the millions who have been killed or harmed by US foreign policy,
and your concept of history is based on propaganda.


You have no appreciation for all the people living
in the world today that are free because of the
sacrifices this country has made. And that includes
you, Frenchy.




You are an unpleasant, slow witted, barely literate fool.

At least your current president - who unlike you has access to real
facts and real history - has made attempts to apologise for America's
actions over the past decades. Why is that if these things didn't (as
you claim) happen? Was he bored and had nothing better to do?


No, he's just another leftist, who finds fault with most
things American, unless it's run by the govt.. His election was
clearly a mistake,
the polls show he is out of touch with mainstream
America and he won't be re-elected.




Let's leave it at that, no point in arguing with a xenophobic closed
minded bigot.


Yes, you're speaking about yourself, right?


Your own President disagrees with you, he knows exactly
what America has done, he understands the damage it has caused to
millions, and he takes every opportunity to apologise. It won't change
International opinion of the US overnight, but it is a start, a step
toward conciliation.


I couldn't care less about what someone in
France thinks about the USA.



I am back at work from tomorrow, my body cast is off, my final stitches
out and I have already started physiotherapy.


Was it brain surgery?


Although arguing with
fools helped pass the time whilst recuperating, it isn't productive.
America is circling the drain, it can't get its political act together,
it is bankrupt, and it has no friends. It will be sad to watch, as
although I don't like US governments, I do like US people,


Sure you do. Those people elected those govts. The
majority stand behind this country and the good it has
done in the world. And we despise American haters
like you.



but it is
going to follow in the footsteps of the Soviet Union and collapse.

China, the world's next political and economical super-power holds its
mortgage, it cannot compete in a world market trade-wise as it cannot
manufacture anything at a cost that is competitive.


Then how is it that the USA is still the largest
manufacturer in the world? Where exactly are
the French Intels and Microsofts?



It cannot survive on
export - it has nothing significant of value to export. The future looks
grim even to the optimists. I am glad that I don't live there.


We are glad too.

--
- Billy
Both the House and Senate budget plan would have cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy.

Kucinich noted that none of the government programs targeted for
elimination or severe cutback in House Republican spending plans
"appeared on the GAO's list of government programs at high risk of
waste, fraud and abuse."
http://www.politifact.com/ohio/state...is-kucinich/re
p-dennis-kucinich-says-gop-budget-cuts-dont-targ/

[W]e have the situation with the deficit and the debt and spending and jobs. And itıs not that difficult to get out of it. The first thing you do is you get rid of corporate welfare. Thatıs hundreds of billions of dollars a year. The second is you tax corporations so that they donıt get away with no taxation.
- Ralph Nader
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/19/ralph_naders_solution_to_debt_crisis
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Old October 15th, 2011, 07:06 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On 16/10/2011 1:28 AM, Billy wrote:
This is an "Off-Topic" post. It has zip to do with low carbing. Take it
to a different venue.


No. If you can't be bothered to post properly, I can't be bothered to
listen to your request.


 




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