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Old June 4th, 2004, 08:25 PM
Lee Rodgers
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Damsel,

Please proceed with caution before changing any of your meds or
supplements. Bugs Bunny may mean well, but s/he is not your doctor.
They do not have your medical records in front of them and they do not
really know enough about you or the specifics of your condition to
prescribe treatment and drug dosing.

Yes s/he wrote long posts which appear brilliant and illuminating.
I'd strongly suggest you use the information as a guide in doing your
own research into the things mentioned. Many supplements will
interfere with the drugs you take and may cause more harm than good.
If you take some of this you may have to balance it with two of those
and the result may mean changing your med doses accordingly.

Next. Where the hell are the references to all the stuff Bugs had to
say? And finally. The fact that Bugs did not understand the
difference between grams of weight and grams of protein in a weighed
portion of protein gives me pause in regards to their understanding of
what they seem to be parroting from other sources.

But hey, what do I know?
Lee Rodgers
Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org
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Old June 4th, 2004, 08:27 PM
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Lee Rodgers wrote:
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Old June 4th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Damsel in dis Dress
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On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:25:22 GMT, (Lee Rodgers) wrote:

Damsel,

Please proceed with caution before changing any of your meds or
supplements. Bugs Bunny may mean well, but s/he is not your doctor.
They do not have your medical records in front of them and they do not
really know enough about you or the specifics of your condition to
prescribe treatment and drug dosing.

Yes s/he wrote long posts which appear brilliant and illuminating.
I'd strongly suggest you use the information as a guide in doing your
own research into the things mentioned. Many supplements will
interfere with the drugs you take and may cause more harm than good.
If you take some of this you may have to balance it with two of those
and the result may mean changing your med doses accordingly.

Next. Where the hell are the references to all the stuff Bugs had to
say? And finally. The fact that Bugs did not understand the
difference between grams of weight and grams of protein in a weighed
portion of protein gives me pause in regards to their understanding of
what they seem to be parroting from other sources.

But hey, what do I know?
Lee Rodgers
Lowcarb Retreat
http://www.lowcarb.org

Thank you, Lee. I'm so confused and frightened. I'm very frustrated that
my blood sugars, while lowered from earlier in this process, are still
unacceptably high by my standards. By my doctor's standards, they're
magnificent! :-( I believe that I need a medication change, but she
doesn't agree. I hate to be literally controlled by someone else because
we have different goals. Especially when I believe that my goals are more
beneficial than hers are.

I'm also frustrated about not being able to lose weight.

I'm hoping to hear from my doctor today regarding the blood tests that Bugs
suggested. I've decided not to alter anything until after we receive the
test results. I'm also going to make a list of the supplements that are
recommended by Dr. Bernstein.

Thanks for caring,
Carol
--
Fasting BG 148
227/223/150 (official weigh-day: Thursday)
Bernstein 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001
Diet, Exercise, Oral Medication
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Old June 4th, 2004, 10:23 PM
Jackie Patti
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Lee Rodgers wrote:

Please proceed with caution before changing any of your meds or
supplements. Bugs Bunny may mean well, but s/he is not your doctor.
They do not have your medical records in front of them and they do not
really know enough about you or the specifics of your condition to
prescribe treatment and drug dosing.


I strongly agree with Lee's warnings; I just posted to that thread about
this.

Bugs knows some stuff, but it may be that he knows enough to be
dangerous as opposed to knowing enough to be helpful.

Especially for someone with such a complex medical history and on so
many different medications.

--
As you accelerate your food, it takes exponentially more and more energy
to increase its velocity, until you hit a limit at C. This energy has
to come from somewhere; in this case, from the food's nutritional value.
Thus, the faster the food is, the worse it gets.
-- Mark Hughes, comprehending the taste of fast food

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Old June 4th, 2004, 10:32 PM
Jackie Patti
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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:

Thank you, Lee. I'm so confused and frightened. I'm very frustrated that
my blood sugars, while lowered from earlier in this process, are still
unacceptably high by my standards. By my doctor's standards, they're
magnificent! :-( I believe that I need a medication change, but she
doesn't agree. I hate to be literally controlled by someone else because
we have different goals. Especially when I believe that my goals are more
beneficial than hers are.


Bernstein thinks we should have completly normal bg readings... aiming
at 85 all the time.

The folks over on asd seem to think good readings are 100-110 fbg, 140
1-hour postprandial and 120 at 2-hours. I've adopted these goals
myself. Maybe I'll move to Bernstein's goal at a later time, but rather
than drive myself nuts, I just want to aim at reasonable goals. My fbg
is still way out-of-wack, got to work on that.

A friend of mine used to work in public health on indian reservations
and they considered bg consistently under 200 to be good control.

Even Bernstein says for folks who've been running high a long time, they
start with an initial goal of 160 or 180 and move the target down
gradually to prevent the person feeling hypoglycemic due to having
adjusted to really high blood glucose levels.

So theres a wide variety of goals for bg. If you and your doctor
disagree about your goals, that's where you need to start discussing and
negotiating. Figure out what you your goals should be to start. Get to
that level, get it controlled, and then you can worry about improvement
later.

It's just like losing weight, you can have mini-goals before the ideal
goal.

The main bit is to not give up - this is your quality of life you're
fighting for here.


I'm also frustrated about not being able to lose weight.


That will come with the bg control. And it will improve the bg control
too.

You will get there. I will get there too.


--
As you accelerate your food, it takes exponentially more and more energy
to increase its velocity, until you hit a limit at C. This energy has
to come from somewhere; in this case, from the food's nutritional value.
Thus, the faster the food is, the worse it gets.
-- Mark Hughes, comprehending the taste of fast food

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Old June 5th, 2004, 11:04 AM
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Jackie Patti wrote:
Lee Rodgers wrote:

Please proceed with caution before changing any of your meds or
supplements. Bugs Bunny may mean well, but s/he is not your doctor.
They do not have your medical records in front of them and they do not
really know enough about you or the specifics of your condition to
prescribe treatment and drug dosing.


I strongly agree with Lee's warnings; I just posted to that thread about
this.

Bugs knows some stuff, but it may be that he knows enough to be
dangerous as opposed to knowing enough to be helpful.


I'd like to know from which quack^H^H^H^H^Halt med practioner the
megadosing vitamin advice was paraphrased.

I seem to recall reading a recent study abstract showing that megadosing
antioxidant supplements increased the risks for everything that eating
more antioxidant-containing veggies decreased risks for, but I'm having
trouble locating the cite.

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

 




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