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  #11  
Old May 16th, 2007, 01:48 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
ahmward
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Default A big mistake


Joe, just start where you left off. Go to a meeting, track your points
and everything else. It's not a matter of trusting yourself but if you
go to meetings, you will probably be more accountable. I have been
attending meetings faithfully for several years. When I quit meetings,
I quit being aware of what I am doing.

This is a lifetime journey with ups and downs. Don't beat yourself up.
Gaining 15 is not like regaining your 67 plus more so just go back to
the program and pick up where you left off.

Audrey


"Bazooka-Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making
goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last
few months I've put on 15 lbs and am now above goal again for the
first time in months. I finally stepped on a scale after a big dinner
tonight. I freaked. My scale's not very accurate but I from what it
reads that I've GOT to be 15 lbs over. Nearly cried. I'm a little
panicked I think. Haven't even been in this NG for...I don't know...6
months. Not sure what to do. Back to WW and weekly meetings? Just
get back on program without meetings? Can I trust myself to do it
without the accountability.

I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN!

:Bazooka-Joe



  #12  
Old May 16th, 2007, 12:58 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Laura
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Default A big mistake

Welcome back. I found that I need the meetings too. We have several Lifetime
members that attend/WI each week because they feel the same way.

"Bazooka-Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making
goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last
few months I've put on 15 lbs and am now above goal again for the
first time in months. I finally stepped on a scale after a big dinner
tonight. I freaked. My scale's not very accurate but I from what it
reads that I've GOT to be 15 lbs over. Nearly cried. I'm a little
panicked I think. Haven't even been in this NG for...I don't know...6
months. Not sure what to do. Back to WW and weekly meetings? Just
get back on program without meetings? Can I trust myself to do it
without the accountability.

I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN!

:Bazooka-Joe


  #13  
Old May 16th, 2007, 04:36 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Karen Officer
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Default A big mistake

I know I still go to the weekly, and have been at lifetime for 13
months. I still get a lot out of the meetings.
Karen O

On Wed, 16 May 2007 11:58:32 GMT, in alt.support.diet.weigh****chers,
"Laura" wrote:

Welcome back. I found that I need the meetings too. We have several Lifetime
members that attend/WI each week because they feel the same way.

"Bazooka-Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making
goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last
few months I've put on 15 lbs and am now above goal again for the
first time in months. I finally stepped on a scale after a big dinner
tonight. I freaked. My scale's not very accurate but I from what it
reads that I've GOT to be 15 lbs over. Nearly cried. I'm a little
panicked I think. Haven't even been in this NG for...I don't know...6
months. Not sure what to do. Back to WW and weekly meetings? Just
get back on program without meetings? Can I trust myself to do it
without the accountability.

I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN!

:Bazooka-Joe


  #14  
Old May 21st, 2007, 06:46 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
joni
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Default A big mistake

On May 12, 10:23 pm, Bazooka-Joe wrote:
I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN!


You may say that, but without scrutinizing the whys behind your
recent weight gain, you are doomed to repeat it over and over again.
Why would you continue to eat/indulge/large dinners etc when you KNOW
thats the road back to packing on the pounds? Once in awhile swiftly
becomes and everyday habit again. Is it simply self-sabotage? Is it
denial? Usually, those who keep the weight off make certain decisions
to change things about their lifestyle, while those who gain it all
back just cant take that leap and continually go back to habits they
know are self destructive. So I think there is alot to be said for
fixing ones head with an introspective look before you begin WW again.
Plot the next two weeks to set small goals, clean up your eating,
increase your exercise and then reweigh yourself. I think you'll be
surprised that alot of the temporary bloat is gone.
Going to WW meetings, posting in groups etc are all good support (dont
get me wrong here) but if you dont have the 'faith' to do it for
yourself(to know you have the inner strength), its kind of like
sinning outside of church. You know you shouldnt but you do anyways.
It all comes down to you and the choices you make and not solely
relying on the support of others to somehow 'make' you change
temporarily, gaining it back, and then running back to them to
remanage your eating habits again and again. Kind of like a vicious
cycle. (Been there done that!) You have to make your own checks and
balances and decide that you want this to be a permanent change for
the better. WW has given you the nutritional education base you needed
at one time, its up to you to implement it and stick with it.


joanne

  #15  
Old May 21st, 2007, 06:57 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Bazooka-Joe
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Default A big mistake

On May 12, 10:23 pm, Bazooka-Joe wrote:
After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making
goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last
few months I've put on 15 lbs and am now above goal again for the
first time in months. I finally stepped on a scale after a big dinner
tonight. I freaked. My scale's not very accurate but I from what it
reads that I've GOT to be 15 lbs over. Nearly cried. I'm a little
panicked I think. Haven't even been in this NG for...I don't know...6
months. Not sure what to do. Back to WW and weekly meetings? Just
get back on program without meetings? Can I trust myself to do it
without the accountability.

I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN!

:Bazooka-Joe




So...some great news. First, if you recall I stated I'd just eaten a
big meal. In fact it was the end of the day, with most or all of my
clothes on including jeans. The next day on the same screwy scale
after a shower in the morning it showed me 7lbs lighter. So by that
indication, I'd only gained 8 pounds (if I trust my screwy scale and I
don't). In the last 9 days though I've lost 4 of those 8 pounds. I'm
back down below goal, and only 4 pounds from where I was ultimately.
Haven't started going back to meetings. I stopped going to meetings
because I found I was yo-yo-ing. Gaining throughout the month, losing
when a meeting was coming up. The meetings were great when I was
losing heading toward goal. But being on maintenance having a check-
in time like that was/is more detramental to me I think than just
staying the course and being conscious about it.

And whoever posted that there's a mental/emotional consideration with
eating correctly I think is right on. For me it's boredom. I simply
eat when I have nothing better to do. If I keep myself busy, I don't
even have to try. Which is pretty much what happened these last 9 or
so days. Thanks again to everybody for helping me through my little
panic attack there. I find just getting it out on paper, or in
the newsgroup helps me commit to shedding the excess.

:Bazooka-Joe

  #16  
Old May 22nd, 2007, 03:33 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Stormmee
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Default A big mistake

I thought that is what he said he was doing, Lee
joni wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 12, 10:23 pm, Bazooka-Joe wrote:
I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN!


You may say that, but without scrutinizing the whys behind your
recent weight gain, you are doomed to repeat it over and over again.
Why would you continue to eat/indulge/large dinners etc when you KNOW
thats the road back to packing on the pounds? Once in awhile swiftly
becomes and everyday habit again. Is it simply self-sabotage? Is it
denial? Usually, those who keep the weight off make certain decisions
to change things about their lifestyle, while those who gain it all
back just cant take that leap and continually go back to habits they
know are self destructive. So I think there is alot to be said for
fixing ones head with an introspective look before you begin WW again.
Plot the next two weeks to set small goals, clean up your eating,
increase your exercise and then reweigh yourself. I think you'll be
surprised that alot of the temporary bloat is gone.
Going to WW meetings, posting in groups etc are all good support (dont
get me wrong here) but if you dont have the 'faith' to do it for
yourself(to know you have the inner strength), its kind of like
sinning outside of church. You know you shouldnt but you do anyways.
It all comes down to you and the choices you make and not solely
relying on the support of others to somehow 'make' you change
temporarily, gaining it back, and then running back to them to
remanage your eating habits again and again. Kind of like a vicious
cycle. (Been there done that!) You have to make your own checks and
balances and decide that you want this to be a permanent change for
the better. WW has given you the nutritional education base you needed
at one time, its up to you to implement it and stick with it.


joanne



  #17  
Old May 22nd, 2007, 03:35 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Stormmee
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Default A big mistake

good for you, Lee
Bazooka-Joe wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 12, 10:23 pm, Bazooka-Joe wrote:
After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making
goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last
few months I've put on 15 lbs and am now above goal again for the
first time in months. I finally stepped on a scale after a big dinner
tonight. I freaked. My scale's not very accurate but I from what it
reads that I've GOT to be 15 lbs over. Nearly cried. I'm a little
panicked I think. Haven't even been in this NG for...I don't know...6
months. Not sure what to do. Back to WW and weekly meetings? Just
get back on program without meetings? Can I trust myself to do it
without the accountability.

I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN!

:Bazooka-Joe




So...some great news. First, if you recall I stated I'd just eaten a
big meal. In fact it was the end of the day, with most or all of my
clothes on including jeans. The next day on the same screwy scale
after a shower in the morning it showed me 7lbs lighter. So by that
indication, I'd only gained 8 pounds (if I trust my screwy scale and I
don't). In the last 9 days though I've lost 4 of those 8 pounds. I'm
back down below goal, and only 4 pounds from where I was ultimately.
Haven't started going back to meetings. I stopped going to meetings
because I found I was yo-yo-ing. Gaining throughout the month, losing
when a meeting was coming up. The meetings were great when I was
losing heading toward goal. But being on maintenance having a check-
in time like that was/is more detramental to me I think than just
staying the course and being conscious about it.

And whoever posted that there's a mental/emotional consideration with
eating correctly I think is right on. For me it's boredom. I simply
eat when I have nothing better to do. If I keep myself busy, I don't
even have to try. Which is pretty much what happened these last 9 or
so days. Thanks again to everybody for helping me through my little
panic attack there. I find just getting it out on paper, or in
the newsgroup helps me commit to shedding the excess.

:Bazooka-Joe



  #18  
Old May 22nd, 2007, 05:35 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
George
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Posts: 34
Default A big mistake

Right on, Joanne! Mental attitude and commitment to a healthy lifestyle are
all that are necessary. But continuous mental focus on proper lifestyle is
difficult, so weak-minded people choose to follow the WW creed, instead.

WW is all about meetings, points, and eating harmful foods "in moderation"
to satisfy those cravings. Oh, and about collecting membership fees, of
course.

Can you imagine that a WW member (above) posted that drinking water was such
a struggle??!! And take a look at www.weigh****chers.com: much of their
Website is glitzy pictures of food! Make no mistake: WW is a for-profit
operation, first and foremost. Actual weightloss is second priority.

"The points-based plans (like WW) control portion size by allowing calories
that should be consumed on healthy food with very small portions of
potentially unhealthy food. This strategy gives the dieter a false sense of
the real nutritional changes they need to make in their lives for long-term
success. If one seriously wants to lose weight and keep it off in the
long-term, they need to think more comprehensively about the foods they eat.
The program does not put a priority on exercise, which is essential.
Long-term group therapy impedes the development of self-reliance and
self-discipline, which is clearly the most important trait in those 5% of
dieters who succeed in the long-term. Although Weight Watchers is an
average diet program, you'll see way better results with today's top diets
like Nutrisystem and Medifast."
http://www.top10z.com/weight-loss-di...D=25&kwid=3-ww

The unvoiced WW motto is "There's a sucker born every minute - keep those
fees coming in." WW cleverly appeals to the desire of overweight people to
continue their addiction to fattening food and to avoid strenuous exercise,
despite their common sense. Did you know that a large food producer owned
WW for two decades? Now, tell me, why would a food producer want to own WW?

The result of this victimization of members, sadly, can be seen in the many
postings in this NG by WW members who experience yo-yo weight fluctuations
throughout their lives.



"joni" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 12, 10:23 pm, Bazooka-Joe wrote:
I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN!


You may say that, but without scrutinizing the whys behind your
recent weight gain, you are doomed to repeat it over and over again.
Why would you continue to eat/indulge/large dinners etc when you KNOW
thats the road back to packing on the pounds? Once in awhile swiftly
becomes and everyday habit again. Is it simply self-sabotage? Is it
denial? Usually, those who keep the weight off make certain decisions
to change things about their lifestyle, while those who gain it all
back just cant take that leap and continually go back to habits they
know are self destructive. So I think there is alot to be said for
fixing ones head with an introspective look before you begin WW again.
Plot the next two weeks to set small goals, clean up your eating,
increase your exercise and then reweigh yourself. I think you'll be
surprised that alot of the temporary bloat is gone.
Going to WW meetings, posting in groups etc are all good support (dont
get me wrong here) but if you dont have the 'faith' to do it for
yourself(to know you have the inner strength), its kind of like
sinning outside of church. You know you shouldnt but you do anyways.
It all comes down to you and the choices you make and not solely
relying on the support of others to somehow 'make' you change
temporarily, gaining it back, and then running back to them to
remanage your eating habits again and again. Kind of like a vicious
cycle. (Been there done that!) You have to make your own checks and
balances and decide that you want this to be a permanent change for
the better. WW has given you the nutritional education base you needed
at one time, its up to you to implement it and stick with it.


joanne



  #19  
Old May 22nd, 2007, 12:57 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Laura
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Default A big mistake

If you are so anti-WW then what are you doing posting in this group? We come
for support. Not negative feelings toward the program.

GO AWAY!!!

"George" wrote in message
...
Right on, Joanne! Mental attitude and commitment to a healthy lifestyle
are all that are necessary. But continuous mental focus on proper
lifestyle is difficult, so weak-minded people choose to follow the WW
creed, instead.

WW is all about meetings, points, and eating harmful foods "in moderation"
to satisfy those cravings. Oh, and about collecting membership fees, of
course.

Can you imagine that a WW member (above) posted that drinking water was
such a struggle??!! And take a look at www.weigh****chers.com: much of
their Website is glitzy pictures of food! Make no mistake: WW is a
for-profit operation, first and foremost. Actual weightloss is second
priority.

"The points-based plans (like WW) control portion size by allowing
calories that should be consumed on healthy food with very small portions
of potentially unhealthy food. This strategy gives the dieter a false
sense of the real nutritional changes they need to make in their lives for
long-term success. If one seriously wants to lose weight and keep it off
in the long-term, they need to think more comprehensively about the foods
they eat. The program does not put a priority on exercise, which is
essential. Long-term group therapy impedes the development of
self-reliance and self-discipline, which is clearly the most important
trait in those 5% of dieters who succeed in the long-term. Although
Weight Watchers is an average diet program, you'll see way better results
with today's top diets like Nutrisystem and Medifast."
http://www.top10z.com/weight-loss-di...D=25&kwid=3-ww

The unvoiced WW motto is "There's a sucker born every minute - keep those
fees coming in." WW cleverly appeals to the desire of overweight people
to continue their addiction to fattening food and to avoid strenuous
exercise, despite their common sense. Did you know that a large food
producer owned WW for two decades? Now, tell me, why would a food
producer want to own WW?

The result of this victimization of members, sadly, can be seen in the
many postings in this NG by WW members who experience yo-yo weight
fluctuations throughout their lives.



"joni" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 12, 10:23 pm, Bazooka-Joe wrote:
I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN!


You may say that, but without scrutinizing the whys behind your
recent weight gain, you are doomed to repeat it over and over again.
Why would you continue to eat/indulge/large dinners etc when you KNOW
thats the road back to packing on the pounds? Once in awhile swiftly
becomes and everyday habit again. Is it simply self-sabotage? Is it
denial? Usually, those who keep the weight off make certain decisions
to change things about their lifestyle, while those who gain it all
back just cant take that leap and continually go back to habits they
know are self destructive. So I think there is alot to be said for
fixing ones head with an introspective look before you begin WW again.
Plot the next two weeks to set small goals, clean up your eating,
increase your exercise and then reweigh yourself. I think you'll be
surprised that alot of the temporary bloat is gone.
Going to WW meetings, posting in groups etc are all good support (dont
get me wrong here) but if you dont have the 'faith' to do it for
yourself(to know you have the inner strength), its kind of like
sinning outside of church. You know you shouldnt but you do anyways.
It all comes down to you and the choices you make and not solely
relying on the support of others to somehow 'make' you change
temporarily, gaining it back, and then running back to them to
remanage your eating habits again and again. Kind of like a vicious
cycle. (Been there done that!) You have to make your own checks and
balances and decide that you want this to be a permanent change for
the better. WW has given you the nutritional education base you needed
at one time, its up to you to implement it and stick with it.


joanne




  #20  
Old May 22nd, 2007, 04:14 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Bazooka-Joe
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Default A big mistake

On May 21, 9:35 pm, "George" wrote:
Right on, Joanne! Mental attitude and commitment to a healthy lifestyle are
all that are necessary. But continuous mental focus on proper lifestyle is
difficult, so weak-minded people choose to follow the WW creed, instead.

WW is all about meetings, points, and eating harmful foods "in moderation"
to satisfy those cravings. Oh, and about collecting membership fees, of
course.

Can you imagine that a WW member (above) posted that drinking water was such
a struggle??!! And take a look atwww.weigh****chers.com:much of their
Website is glitzy pictures of food! Make no mistake: WW is a for-profit
operation, first and foremost. Actual weightloss is second priority.

"The points-based plans (like WW) control portion size by allowing calories
that should be consumed on healthy food with very small portions of
potentially unhealthy food. This strategy gives the dieter a false sense of
the real nutritional changes they need to make in their lives for long-term
success. If one seriously wants to lose weight and keep it off in the
long-term, they need to think more comprehensively about the foods they eat.
The program does not put a priority on exercise, which is essential.
Long-term group therapy impedes the development of self-reliance and
self-discipline, which is clearly the most important trait in those 5% of
dieters who succeed in the long-term. Although Weight Watchers is an
average diet program, you'll see way better results with today's top diets
like Nutrisystem and Medifast."http://www.top10z.com/weight-loss-diets/review-diet.php?ID=25&kwid=3-ww

The unvoiced WW motto is "There's a sucker born every minute - keep those
fees coming in." WW cleverly appeals to the desire of overweight people to
continue their addiction to fattening food and to avoid strenuous exercise,
despite their common sense. Did you know that a large food producer owned
WW for two decades? Now, tell me, why would a food producer want to own WW?

The result of this victimization of members, sadly, can be seen in the many
postings in this NG by WW members who experience yo-yo weight fluctuations
throughout their lives.

"joni" wrote in message

ups.com...



On May 12, 10:23 pm, Bazooka-Joe wrote:
I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN!


You may say that, but without scrutinizing the whys behind your
recent weight gain, you are doomed to repeat it over and over again.
Why would you continue to eat/indulge/large dinners etc when you KNOW
thats the road back to packing on the pounds? Once in awhile swiftly
becomes and everyday habit again. Is it simply self-sabotage? Is it
denial? Usually, those who keep the weight off make certain decisions
to change things about their lifestyle, while those who gain it all
back just cant take that leap and continually go back to habits they
know are self destructive. So I think there is alot to be said for
fixing ones head with an introspective look before you begin WW again.
Plot the next two weeks to set small goals, clean up your eating,
increase your exercise and then reweigh yourself. I think you'll be
surprised that alot of the temporary bloat is gone.
Going to WW meetings, posting in groups etc are all good support (dont
get me wrong here) but if you dont have the 'faith' to do it for
yourself(to know you have the inner strength), its kind of like
sinning outside of church. You know you shouldnt but you do anyways.
It all comes down to you and the choices you make and not solely
relying on the support of others to somehow 'make' you change
temporarily, gaining it back, and then running back to them to
remanage your eating habits again and again. Kind of like a vicious
cycle. (Been there done that!) You have to make your own checks and
balances and decide that you want this to be a permanent change for
the better. WW has given you the nutritional education base you needed
at one time, its up to you to implement it and stick with it.


joanne- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -



Holy cow. When did this group become so full of pseudo-spiritual,
touchy-feely, psycho analysts? Addressing my lifestyle? Find my
inner dieter? It's really easy to sit on a high-horse from your
comfortable computer terminal wherever you're at and spout
generalizations, stereotypes, and blanket statements without siting
any sort of reliable source, link to a scientific journal, or even so
much as an expert blog opinion.

In case the title of the newsgroup wasn't clear, this group is for WW
members to support each other. I'm no longer a member, I'm an ex-
member (an ex-member that as of today is back down to his original
goal weight thank you very much). Say what you want about the
program...I realize it's not for everybody. For those it is for, it
works. It's a free country, so post whatever you want. But don't be
surprised to get negative feedback as you misuse the this group for
your own rantings.

And if you're a troll, then yeah, I fell for it. I fed a troll.
Troll's gotta eat to, right? Oh that's right, you don't need food
anymore since you've developed your self-reliance. Good luck with
that.

:Bazooka-Joe


 




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