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Old March 15th, 2005, 05:17 PM
Tom G
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http://healthylivingalaska.netfirms....ska%20Live%202
%2023%2004_files/page0014.htm

Hehe. Because of a discussion in a sub-thread of "Birthday Dilemma"on Inuit
diets, I decided to spend a little time researching the net in a quest to
find what their ancestral diet consisted of. I found a site that explained
the importance of native peoples traditional diets to combat modern
illnesses such as diabetes.
To find out more, I clicked on a link to a site that was suppose to have
food pyramids for different cultures. The above link was the "Alaskan Food
Pyramid". Notice how it looks so similar to the US and Canadian food guides,
except that it has a moose, ptarmigan, and a salmon for choice of meats. I
suppose it may reflect what they eat today(or told to eat by gov't). Other
traditional diet pyramids from other cultures also contained the same order
of food groups.
I did find other relevant info regarding what Floyd was explaining, that
Eskimo diet included some roots, berries, seaweed, other plants, and stomach
contents along with their mostly meat and fat mainstay.
I thought it might be funny to show that the food guides can be adapted
to fit any culture, even though in reality, it is not a good description of
what the elders would have recommended for staving off diseases relating to
modern foodstuffs. Obviously having the fats and oils near the top is
complete opposite to the normal high fat traditional diet. )
Tom
210/180/180

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Old March 15th, 2005, 05:22 PM
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Darn. The link got cut off, so I redid it in Tinyurl.

http://tinyurl.com/4yoak


"Tom G" wrote in message
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http://healthylivingalaska.netfirms....ska%20Live%202
%2023%2004_files/page0014.htm

Hehe. Because of a discussion in a sub-thread of "Birthday Dilemma"on

Inuit
diets, I decided to spend a little time researching the net in a quest to
find what their ancestral diet consisted of. I found a site that explained
the importance of native peoples traditional diets to combat modern
illnesses such as diabetes.
To find out more, I clicked on a link to a site that was suppose to

have
food pyramids for different cultures. The above link was the "Alaskan Food
Pyramid". Notice how it looks so similar to the US and Canadian food

guides,
except that it has a moose, ptarmigan, and a salmon for choice of meats. I
suppose it may reflect what they eat today(or told to eat by gov't). Other
traditional diet pyramids from other cultures also contained the same

order
of food groups.
I did find other relevant info regarding what Floyd was explaining,

that
Eskimo diet included some roots, berries, seaweed, other plants, and

stomach
contents along with their mostly meat and fat mainstay.
I thought it might be funny to show that the food guides can be adapted
to fit any culture, even though in reality, it is not a good description

of
what the elders would have recommended for staving off diseases relating

to
modern foodstuffs. Obviously having the fats and oils near the top is
complete opposite to the normal high fat traditional diet. )
Tom
210/180/180

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Tom + Pat Gallant





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Old March 15th, 2005, 05:42 PM
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just as stupid as the one here in wisconsin!

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"Tom G" wrote in message
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: Darn. The link got cut off, so I redid it in Tinyurl.
:
: http://tinyurl.com/4yoak
:
:
: "Tom G" wrote in message
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:
http://healthylivingalaska.netfirms....ska%20Live%202
: %2023%2004_files/page0014.htm
:
: Hehe. Because of a discussion in a sub-thread of "Birthday
Dilemma"on
: Inuit
: diets, I decided to spend a little time researching the net in a
quest to
: find what their ancestral diet consisted of. I found a site that
explained
: the importance of native peoples traditional diets to combat
modern
: illnesses such as diabetes.
: To find out more, I clicked on a link to a site that was
suppose to
: have
: food pyramids for different cultures. The above link was the
"Alaskan Food
: Pyramid". Notice how it looks so similar to the US and Canadian
food
: guides,
: except that it has a moose, ptarmigan, and a salmon for choice
of meats. I
: suppose it may reflect what they eat today(or told to eat by
gov't). Other
: traditional diet pyramids from other cultures also contained the
same
: order
: of food groups.
: I did find other relevant info regarding what Floyd was
explaining,
: that
: Eskimo diet included some roots, berries, seaweed, other plants,
and
: stomach
: contents along with their mostly meat and fat mainstay.
: I thought it might be funny to show that the food guides can
be adapted
: to fit any culture, even though in reality, it is not a good
description
: of
: what the elders would have recommended for staving off diseases
relating
: to
: modern foodstuffs. Obviously having the fats and oils near the
top is
: complete opposite to the normal high fat traditional diet. )
: Tom
: 210/180/180
:
: --
:
:
:
: Tom + Pat Gallant
:
:
:
:
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Old March 15th, 2005, 05:51 PM
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Tom G wrote:
::
http://healthylivingalaska.netfirms....ska%20Live%202
:: %2023%2004_files/page0014.htm
::
:: Hehe. Because of a discussion in a sub-thread of "Birthday
:: Dilemma"on Inuit diets, I decided to spend a little time researching
:: the net in a quest to find what their ancestral diet consisted of. I
:: found a site that explained the importance of native peoples
:: traditional diets to combat modern illnesses such as diabetes.
:: To find out more, I clicked on a link to a site that was suppose
:: to have food pyramids for different cultures. The above link was the
:: "Alaskan Food Pyramid". Notice how it looks so similar to the US and
:: Canadian food guides, except that it has a moose, ptarmigan, and a
:: salmon for choice of meats. I suppose it may reflect what they eat
:: today(or told to eat by gov't).

Well, they're all following the US Dept of Ag, so it is no wonder!

Other traditional diet pyramids from
:: other cultures also contained the same order of food groups.
:: I did find other relevant info regarding what Floyd was
:: explaining, that Eskimo diet included some roots, berries, seaweed,
:: other plants, and stomach contents along with their mostly meat and
:: fat mainstay. I thought it might be funny to show that the food
:: guides can be adapted
:: to fit any culture, even though in reality, it is not a good
:: description of what the elders would have recommended for staving
:: off diseases relating to modern foodstuffs. Obviously having the
:: fats and oils near the top is complete opposite to the normal high
:: fat traditional diet.

Well...duh! The US is basically responsible for vilifying fat across the
entire friggin world! Even when history says otherwise. It really is
amazing what we have managed to come up with. Mankind is stuck on itself

One thing I'm happy for though...we have basically done away with any
arguments that entire populations of people existed on a purely meat protein
and fat diet!



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Old March 15th, 2005, 06:06 PM
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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Tom G wrote:
::

http://healthylivingalaska.netfirms....ska%20Live%202
:: %2023%2004_files/page0014.htm
::
:: Hehe. Because of a discussion in a sub-thread of "Birthday
:: Dilemma"on Inuit diets, I decided to spend a little time researching
:: the net in a quest to find what their ancestral diet consisted of. I
:: found a site that explained the importance of native peoples
:: traditional diets to combat modern illnesses such as diabetes.
:: To find out more, I clicked on a link to a site that was suppose
:: to have food pyramids for different cultures. The above link was the
:: "Alaskan Food Pyramid". Notice how it looks so similar to the US and
:: Canadian food guides, except that it has a moose, ptarmigan, and a
:: salmon for choice of meats. I suppose it may reflect what they eat
:: today(or told to eat by gov't).

Well, they're all following the US Dept of Ag, so it is no wonder!

Other traditional diet pyramids from
:: other cultures also contained the same order of food groups.
:: I did find other relevant info regarding what Floyd was
:: explaining, that Eskimo diet included some roots, berries, seaweed,
:: other plants, and stomach contents along with their mostly meat and
:: fat mainstay. I thought it might be funny to show that the food
:: guides can be adapted
:: to fit any culture, even though in reality, it is not a good
:: description of what the elders would have recommended for staving
:: off diseases relating to modern foodstuffs. Obviously having the
:: fats and oils near the top is complete opposite to the normal high
:: fat traditional diet.

Well...duh! The US is basically responsible for vilifying fat across

the
entire friggin world! Even when history says otherwise. It really is
amazing what we have managed to come up with. Mankind is stuck on itself



One thing I'm happy for though...we have basically done away with any
arguments that entire populations of people existed on a purely meat

protein
and fat diet!


I hate it when I base an entire thought process on a true(to me) concept,
and then it starts to crumble. I was quite certain that the Inuit ate an
almost pure meat and fat diet.






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Old March 15th, 2005, 06:06 PM
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"rosie read n' post" wrote in message
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just as stupid as the one here in wisconsin!


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"Tom G" wrote in message
news:3REZd.689138$6l.208092@pd7tw2no...
: Darn. The link got cut off, so I redid it in Tinyurl.
:
: http://tinyurl.com/4yoak
:
:
: "Tom G" wrote in message
: news:IMEZd.689122$8l.531572@pd7tw1no...
:
:

http://healthylivingalaska.netfirms....ska%20Live%202
: %2023%2004_files/page0014.htm
:
: Hehe. Because of a discussion in a sub-thread of "Birthday
Dilemma"on
: Inuit
: diets, I decided to spend a little time researching the net in a
quest to
: find what their ancestral diet consisted of. I found a site that
explained
: the importance of native peoples traditional diets to combat
modern
: illnesses such as diabetes.
: To find out more, I clicked on a link to a site that was
suppose to
: have
: food pyramids for different cultures. The above link was the
"Alaskan Food
: Pyramid". Notice how it looks so similar to the US and Canadian
food
: guides,
: except that it has a moose, ptarmigan, and a salmon for choice
of meats. I
: suppose it may reflect what they eat today(or told to eat by
gov't). Other
: traditional diet pyramids from other cultures also contained the
same
: order
: of food groups.
: I did find other relevant info regarding what Floyd was
explaining,
: that
: Eskimo diet included some roots, berries, seaweed, other plants,
and
: stomach
: contents along with their mostly meat and fat mainstay.
: I thought it might be funny to show that the food guides can
be adapted
: to fit any culture, even though in reality, it is not a good
description
: of
: what the elders would have recommended for staving off diseases
relating
: to
: modern foodstuffs. Obviously having the fats and oils near the
top is
: complete opposite to the normal high fat traditional diet. )
: Tom
: 210/180/180
:
: --
:
:
:
: Tom + Pat Gallant
:
:
:
:
:




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Old March 15th, 2005, 06:24 PM
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Tom G wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
:: ...
::: Tom G wrote:
:::::
:::
::
http://healthylivingalaska.netfirms....ska%20Live%202
::::: %2023%2004_files/page0014.htm
:::::
::::: Hehe. Because of a discussion in a sub-thread of "Birthday
::::: Dilemma"on Inuit diets, I decided to spend a little time
::::: researching the net in a quest to find what their ancestral diet
::::: consisted of. I found a site that explained the importance of
::::: native peoples traditional diets to combat modern illnesses such
::::: as diabetes. To find out more, I clicked on a link to a site
::::: that was suppose
::::: to have food pyramids for different cultures. The above link was
::::: the "Alaskan Food Pyramid". Notice how it looks so similar to the
::::: US and Canadian food guides, except that it has a moose,
::::: ptarmigan, and a salmon for choice of meats. I suppose it may
::::: reflect what they eat today(or told to eat by gov't).
:::
::: Well, they're all following the US Dept of Ag, so it is no wonder!
:::
::: Other traditional diet pyramids from
::::: other cultures also contained the same order of food groups.
::::: I did find other relevant info regarding what Floyd was
::::: explaining, that Eskimo diet included some roots, berries,
::::: seaweed, other plants, and stomach contents along with their
::::: mostly meat and fat mainstay. I thought it might be funny to
::::: show that the food guides can be adapted
::::: to fit any culture, even though in reality, it is not a good
::::: description of what the elders would have recommended for staving
::::: off diseases relating to modern foodstuffs. Obviously having the
::::: fats and oils near the top is complete opposite to the normal high
::::: fat traditional diet.
:::
::: Well...duh! The US is basically responsible for vilifying fat
::: across the entire friggin world! Even when history says otherwise.
::: It really is amazing what we have managed to come up with. Mankind
::: is stuck on itself
:::
::: One thing I'm happy for though...we have basically done away with
::: any arguments that entire populations of people existed on a purely
::: meat protein and fat diet!
::
:: I hate it when I base an entire thought process on a true(to me)
:: concept, and then it starts to crumble. I was quite certain that the
:: Inuit ate an almost pure meat and fat diet.

Eat those low-starch veggies, man! They're good for ya!


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Old March 15th, 2005, 06:54 PM
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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:::
::: One thing I'm happy for though...we have basically done away with
::: any arguments that entire populations of people existed on a purely
::: meat protein and fat diet!
::
:: I hate it when I base an entire thought process on a true(to me)
:: concept, and then it starts to crumble. I was quite certain that the
:: Inuit ate an almost pure meat and fat diet.

Eat those low-starch veggies, man! They're good for ya!


I have been all along. I think it is vital for nutrients. Just how much,
and of what type have always been a concern of mine since eating lo-carb.
Traditional diets in all areas of the globe include some form of plant foods
to varying degree. I don't think that a perfect diet exists, but I do
believe that lo-carb is the best way to eat.




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Old March 15th, 2005, 07:33 PM
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They still preferred to eat a purely meat protein and fat diet.


They knew the importance of protein as well as fat. They probably
couldn't survive on the surrounding plant matter as there was not enough of
it around.

They only
ate the other stuff when their preferred diet wasn't available.


Or they probably ate the other stuff only when it was available.


There is no
such thing as an essential carb.


I think you are right because glucose can be manufactured from protein.
As long as parts of all the animal are eaten, I believe it is likely that a
person would do fine with no plants.
It seems to me that although eating only meat(whole animal) could be done
without ill effects, no peoples intended to do this all the time unless that
is all that was available. The fact is, that the Inuit did not eat only meat
even though they may have preferred it.





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Old March 15th, 2005, 08:46 PM
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"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
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"Tom G" wrote in message
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"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
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There is no
such thing as an essential carb.


I think you are right because glucose can be manufactured from

protein.

Thank you.


Your welcome.

Do you have any relevant information regarding the Inuit diet that you
could divulge? I know that you often comment on how the Inuit get by with
meat only. Many websites say this, but it is in the context of the role that
fat plays in our diets and may not be a true representation of a more
diverse eating pattern that is evident in articles about their history.
Do you only eat meat and fat? If so, how long have you been eating that
way? And, do you feel that eating only muscle tissue and fat sustains you
with enough nutrients? You may be eating organs, skin, and bone marrow. But
what people describe as meat would vary from person to person, so it could
be hard to discern if you do, without stating so.
I have read about the 25 egg per day man. Since the egg itself has
everything inside to make an entire animal, I could see why this person
survived by eating only eggs for 15 years. The article didn't mention how he
died. I haven't researched enough to know if eating only meat and fat could
also sustain us fully in the way of calcium and nutrients. It may be
possible to survive for extended periods, but I am doubting that anyone
could do this long term.





 




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