#50 ....OMG!!!....... GONE FOREVER!!!!!!

laureen,
NOW is the time to learn to live ODAAT (one day at a time) and
enjoy, enjoy, enjoy this day and all your accomplishments!

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"Laureen" wrote in message
ups.com...
: yeah the stalls are coming. I dont have unrealistic expectations.
We
: all stall at times. Im more inclined to due to the restricted
caloric
: intake and due to the rapid weightloss. First off my body will
want to
: hold on to the fat says " Hey! Where's the rest of the food you
used to
: eat, you must be straving, we'll save the fat for you" Then it
will say
: " WHOA, we need to slow down here and redistribute" I'm ok with
that. I
: will take what ever I can get. Thank you for the nice words!!!
: Laureen
:
:
: Cubit wrote:
: Congratulations on the amazing weightloss.
: Sorry to hear you have pain.
:
: I have a running battle with some folks that believe in the myth
of
: "starvation mode." According to their beliefs your weightloss
: efforts
: should be terribly stalled due to insufficient calories. Your
: amazing 50
: pounds lost in 5 weeks is a dose of reality.
:
:
:

This fast weight loss is part of the plan, as I understand it, Ig. Do you
remember any of Laureen's details?

Ignoramus17955 wrote:
Laureen, sorry to spoil the fun, but your rate of weight loss is very
alarming. You lost about 12.5% of your weight in only one month,
IIRC. That's a lot. I remember vaguely that there could be serious
complications to heart muscles and gallbladder if weight is lost at a
too high rate. If I remember right, you do not have medical insurance,
but at the very least I would look into possible dangers of too rapid
weight loss very closely and try to do your best at monitoring what is
going on with you. I hope that your weight loss slows down to a more
sane rate.

It must be nice to be lighter though and to feel that you have some
control. Congrats on that.

Thank you doctor,being snide I just spoke to my surgeon this am about
the size of my anti-inflammatory medicine. He was thrilled about the
weight loss. We are all warned about the possibility of gall bladder
problems with rapid weight loss. I do have insurance but it doesnt
cover WLS so I had to pay for this myself. Remeber 12 of it I lost a
week before surgery so I have lost 38 post op since Jan 31st. The one
gentleman who had surgery a week after me lost 31 pounds during the
clear liquid phase alone( the 10 days post op). Im not worried and Ig,
you dont know everything!
Laureen

Ignoramus17955 wrote:
Laureen, sorry to spoil the fun, but your rate of weight loss is very
alarming. You lost about 12.5% of your weight in only one month,
IIRC. That's a lot. I remember vaguely that there could be serious
complications to heart muscles and gallbladder if weight is lost at a
too high rate. If I remember right, you do not have medical
insurance,
but at the very least I would look into possible dangers of too rapid
weight loss very closely and try to do your best at monitoring what
is
going on with you. I hope that your weight loss slows down to a more
sane rate.

It must be nice to be lighter though and to feel that you have some
control. Congrats on that.

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On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 09:56:14 -0500, "Penelope Baker"
wrote:

"Cubit" wrote in message
.com...
Congratulations on the amazing weightloss.
Sorry to hear you have pain.

I have a running battle with some folks that believe in the myth of
"starvation mode." According to their beliefs your weightloss efforts
should be terribly stalled due to insufficient calories. Your amazing 50
pounds lost in 5 weeks is a dose of reality.

Starvation mode doesn't happen until your body lacks in readily available
fuel systems, which Laureen's does not (yet!). Once you get quite thin, it
gets MUCH harder to lose weight, despite caloric reductions because as you
lose bodyfat there are significant hormonal changes that occur in the body.
Fat cells are not neutral, they are an active part of the endocrine system.
Anyway I'm not interested in an argument, so I won't respond to anything
else on this topic, but I'm just suggesting that you might want to Google a
bit more...

Peace,
Pen

Pen, Cubit is right. Everything you say is hogwash.

Invented by fat folks to give them an excuse to stuff their fat
faces.

PJ

Ignoramus17955 wrote:

Laureen, sorry to spoil the fun, but your rate of weight loss is very
alarming.

This is a pretty usual weight loss for the first month after bariatric
surgery, and Laureen is under the care of a doctor. I'm sure her
doctor is monitoring all of the necessary functions!

T.

Laureen wrote:
Well today was a monumental day. Despite the ongoing knee pain that
we
are working on and a bladder infection I came out of the doctors
office
a happy woman. I have officially lost #50 pounds. 410 to exactly 360
in
a bit over 5 weeks!!!! Im estatic to say the least. I lost 7 of it in
the last 8 days. Gawd I feel good even in pain!!!!!!!!

The doc told me people who keeping walking with arthritis do better
in
the long run rather than not walking on it. I ahve continued to walk
despite to horrific pain. I toough it out during the day and take a
Vicodin to sleep as I am all over the bed at night without narcotics.

Great news on the weight loss.

I wish you could find ways other than Vicodin to combat the knee pain,
and I'm sure you have tried many of them. Have you tried wearing one
of those heat-wraps while you walk? My mother-in-law has had good
results from that.

Also, have you tried soaking in a hot bath before you go to sleep?
That might help you cut down on the amount of Vicodin you need.

Good luck!

T.

Right on Roger! It's suppose to go like this. I am expected to be down
22% of my beginning body weight by the three month day and 10 days
period of time. I have 38 more pounds to lose before my 90 days of
puree is up on May 5th. By cracky, I think I'm gonna make it. Then when
the puree period is over I get to start eating small amounts of regular
food and he expects another 80 plus pounds minimum to come off in 12 to
15 months there after. He told me my total window of opportunity is 15
to 18 months. Im making the best of it. Wait til I start lifting in 10
days!


Roger Zoul wrote:
This fast weight loss is part of the plan, as I understand it, Ig. Do
you
remember any of Laureen's details?

Ignoramus17955 wrote:
Laureen, sorry to spoil the fun, but your rate of weight loss is
very
alarming. You lost about 12.5% of your weight in only one month,
IIRC. That's a lot. I remember vaguely that there could be serious
complications to heart muscles and gallbladder if weight is lost at
a
too high rate. If I remember right, you do not have medical
insurance,
but at the very least I would look into possible dangers of too
rapid
weight loss very closely and try to do your best at monitoring what
is
going on with you. I hope that your weight loss slows down to a
more
sane rate.

It must be nice to be lighter though and to feel that you have some
control. Congrats on that.

I take one half of a 5/500 Vicodin. The pain is so incredible. It takes
the edge off. I'm a lightweight and do not take pills. I hate medicine.
I have prided myself on never being changed to prescription drugs. Last
night I took it and was up at 1am. I ended up finishing the night off
in the recliner with a pillow under my knee. When it is slightly bent
it feels better. I being a belly sleep seem to unknowingly rest my knee
cap into the mattress and or pillow I try to use between my knees.
The surgeon told me unless I can crush it or drink it no pills. My anti
infammatory medicaine was an enteric coated pill and too big. I'm
waiting for a call back for another pill I can crush.
We are not done exploring our options. He mentioned some kind of
injection made from chickens?!!!! He also mentioned special ointments
made in a pharmacy that have medicine in them that is absorbed through
the skin. Either way, I have a postive outlook on this and I WILL find
comfort for somehow. Unless anyone in her has osteoarthritis in their
medial compartment of their knee, they wont know the horrific pain!!!
OMG!!!!
I told the doc yesterday this is my time to shine. The sun is shining
on me everyday even when it rains. I wake up happy depite the pain.
Being fat is the worst pain in my book! I'm tough, I WILL get through
this! Not much gets me down but the pain is wearing on me a bit.
Laureen





Trianna wrote:

Great news on the weight loss.

I wish you could find ways other than Vicodin to combat the knee
pain,
and I'm sure you have tried many of them. Have you tried wearing one
of those heat-wraps while you walk? My mother-in-law has had good
results from that.

Also, have you tried soaking in a hot bath before you go to sleep?
That might help you cut down on the amount of Vicodin you need.

Good luck!

T.

"Laureen" wrote in message
ups.com...
410 to exactly 360 in
a bit over 5 weeks!!!!

Wow!!

He said a good thing to do for the kneee is try to build up
my quads and do some free weights with my feet down by ankle.

I bet you're going to love free weights. Especially with the eye candy
helping : ) I have nothing like your knee problems, but squats have helped
me!

He also suggested using 2 walking sticks like I am cross country
sking when I am out walking.

My sister has just started doing this - it's a new craze in the UK, I think
it's called Nordic walking. She says it's very easy and fun to do once you
get into the rhythm, and it's a good workout too.

Nicky.

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1g Metformin, 87.5ug Thyroxine
T2 DX 05/2004

Laureen wrote:
I take one half of a 5/500 Vicodin. The pain is so incredible. It
takes
the edge off. I'm a lightweight and do not take pills. I hate
medicine.
I have prided myself on never being changed to prescription drugs.
Last
night I took it and was up at 1am. I ended up finishing the night off
in the recliner with a pillow under my knee. When it is slightly bent
it feels better.

Ah! Maybe a leg-wedge pillow will help...my mother-in-law has
arthritis in her knees and she uses that, too.

Obviously, you are needing the Vicodin right now, and your doctor is
working with you on ways to find less toxic/addictive means of pain
relief, which is great. I think we all worry about your having to take
Vicodin on a tiny stomach ( ) but sounds like you and your doctor
are working on it.

Let's hope, too, that your weight loss will help with the pain...I bet
it will!

Good luck.

T.