Female Hormones :-(

Ellen,

Flax oil acts as a female hormone mimic. That means that if a person has
some hormonal problems already, it might change the balance in a way that
causes problems. For me it had the same effect as taking progesterone pills
have had.

I'm very sensitive to that progesterone--so much so that I cannot take it,
ever. If I take even very small doses, I'll start off getting an intense
attack of intense moodiness where I'll have crying fits in response to
nothing, then my breasts will start to hurt very badly, and if I keep taking
it I'll start nonstop overwhelming bleeding.
I used to have terrible PMS before the merciful arrival of menopause.

After a couple days of the flax oil I got the moodiness and the breast
tenderness. I spoke with a university researcher who works with estrogenic
compounds in the environment. She told me that while Flax oil is known to
have a hormonal effect, no one is quite sure what exactly what chemical it
is in flax oil and which hormone it mimics, and that she had a graduate
student who was looking into it.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
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"Ellen Young" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:59:14 +1100, "Reality Check"
wrote:


"Jenny" wrote in message
...
Are you using flax seed or flax seed oil? The symptom you describe is
exactly what happened to me after a few days of flax oil
supplementation.
Stopping the supplement helped a lot.

No flax seed/oil for me. I don't eat/drink anything out of the norm. No
supplements except for whey protein maybe once or twice a day. I'm
beginning to think it's all just in my head!

Whoa, what's the problem with flax seed oil? I eat two tablespoons
per day in a salad and have been doing it for months. I have no PMS.
I've never heard that flax seed oil causes problems. I thought it was
good for me. Can you explain what you mean further? Thanks.

--Ellen



Other hormonal things you might be eating on a diet that might cause
hormonal mood problems include soy and evening primrose oil.

I do add soy milk to my coffee but only about 100mls of it a day. I
don't
eat tofu.


You might also want to try B vitamin supplements if you aren't taking
them.

I'll try taking them again and see what happens... Thanks!


-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2
diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
Diabetes
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"Reality Check" wrote in message
...
Well, I've been feeling a little under lately... not getting enough
strength
this week for my weight training although my running improved. I've
been
craving chocolates and I've been eating out so much at night...
although
I
have been steadily losing weight... not much... like 2 lbs every 3
weeks.
(I'm 129lbs 5'2")

I'm also irritable and stress out over the littlest things. I wish I
was
a
lot calmer. The thing is that I'm aware of all of this but I can't
help
getting myself stressed out at times. What do I do with my hormones?
They
say exercise help diminish PMS symptoms but I exercise every single
day
and
I still get it. I am also aware that hormone imbalance can affect
the
way
I'm thinking and sometimes my perception of reality is real
twisted...
but
still... doesn't stop me being unreasonable.

Anyone have any bad experience with PMS or some hormonal imbalance as
such?
What do you do to relieve yourself of it? Do you stress out and snap
easily?

Thanks for listening... hope to hear your experiences.

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:34:09 -0500, "Jenny"
wrote:

Ellen,

Flax oil acts as a female hormone mimic. That means that if a person has
some hormonal problems already, it might change the balance in a way that
causes problems. For me it had the same effect as taking progesterone pills
have had.

I'm very sensitive to that progesterone--so much so that I cannot take it,
ever. If I take even very small doses, I'll start off getting an intense
attack of intense moodiness where I'll have crying fits in response to
nothing, then my breasts will start to hurt very badly, and if I keep taking
it I'll start nonstop overwhelming bleeding.
I used to have terrible PMS before the merciful arrival of menopause.

After a couple days of the flax oil I got the moodiness and the breast
tenderness. I spoke with a university researcher who works with estrogenic
compounds in the environment. She told me that while Flax oil is known to
have a hormonal effect, no one is quite sure what exactly what chemical it
is in flax oil and which hormone it mimics, and that she had a graduate
student who was looking into it.

This is fascinating, Jenny. I'll assume that since I don't have any
hormonal problems, I can safely take it. Thanks for explaining it to
me.

--Ellen


-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"Ellen Young" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:59:14 +1100, "Reality Check"
wrote:


"Jenny" wrote in message
...
Are you using flax seed or flax seed oil? The symptom you describe is
exactly what happened to me after a few days of flax oil
supplementation.
Stopping the supplement helped a lot.

No flax seed/oil for me. I don't eat/drink anything out of the norm. No
supplements except for whey protein maybe once or twice a day. I'm
beginning to think it's all just in my head!

Whoa, what's the problem with flax seed oil? I eat two tablespoons
per day in a salad and have been doing it for months. I have no PMS.
I've never heard that flax seed oil causes problems. I thought it was
good for me. Can you explain what you mean further? Thanks.

--Ellen



Other hormonal things you might be eating on a diet that might cause
hormonal mood problems include soy and evening primrose oil.

I do add soy milk to my coffee but only about 100mls of it a day. I
don't
eat tofu.


You might also want to try B vitamin supplements if you aren't taking
them.

I'll try taking them again and see what happens... Thanks!


-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2
diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
Diabetes
information, and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"Reality Check" wrote in message
...
Well, I've been feeling a little under lately... not getting enough
strength
this week for my weight training although my running improved. I've
been
craving chocolates and I've been eating out so much at night...
although
I
have been steadily losing weight... not much... like 2 lbs every 3
weeks.
(I'm 129lbs 5'2")

I'm also irritable and stress out over the littlest things. I wish I
was
a
lot calmer. The thing is that I'm aware of all of this but I can't
help
getting myself stressed out at times. What do I do with my hormones?
They
say exercise help diminish PMS symptoms but I exercise every single
day
and
I still get it. I am also aware that hormone imbalance can affect
the
way
I'm thinking and sometimes my perception of reality is real
twisted...
but
still... doesn't stop me being unreasonable.

Anyone have any bad experience with PMS or some hormonal imbalance as
such?
What do you do to relieve yourself of it? Do you stress out and snap
easily?

Thanks for listening... hope to hear your experiences.

I used to have major cravings for Doritos and potato chips
during PMS. It got easier when I put more fat free milk in
my eating program. I'm past that now.

Reality Check wrote:

Well, I've been feeling a little under lately... not getting enough strength
this week for my weight training although my running improved. I've been
craving chocolates and I've been eating out so much at night... although I
have been steadily losing weight... not much... like 2 lbs every 3 weeks.
(I'm 129lbs 5'2")

I'm also irritable and stress out over the littlest things. I wish I was a
lot calmer. The thing is that I'm aware of all of this but I can't help
getting myself stressed out at times. What do I do with my hormones? They
say exercise help diminish PMS symptoms but I exercise every single day and
I still get it. I am also aware that hormone imbalance can affect the way
I'm thinking and sometimes my perception of reality is real twisted... but
still... doesn't stop me being unreasonable.

Anyone have any bad experience with PMS or some hormonal imbalance as such?
What do you do to relieve yourself of it? Do you stress out and snap
easily?

Thanks for listening... hope to hear your experiences.

That's exactly why I take it, but I also have PMS, and now I know why I
don't have it as bad as I used to...
"Perple Gyrl" wrote in message
...
I take it too sometimes to help me sleep....

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perpleglow(AT)comcast.net
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"~Deb~" frigga@nospam wrote in message
s.com...

"Ignoramus30622" wrote in message
...
In article , Reality Check wrote:
Well, I've been feeling a little under lately... not getting enough
strength
this week for my weight training although my running improved. I've
been
craving chocolates and I've been eating out so much at night...
although
I
have been steadily losing weight... not much... like 2 lbs every 3
weeks.
(I'm 129lbs 5'2")

Losing weight while at normal weight is naturally difficult.

I also have very modest weight loss plans for 2004 -- to lose 10-15
lb sof fat and gain 5 lbs of muscle -- and losing weight is a real
struggle. And I have no female hormonal issues.

Your BMI is 23, mine is 24.

I'm also irritable and stress out over the littlest things.


I wish
I was a lot calmer. The thing is that I'm aware of all of this but
I can't help getting myself stressed out at times. What do I do
with my hormones? They say exercise help diminish PMS symptoms but
I exercise every single day and I still get it. I am also aware
that hormone imbalance can affect the way I'm thinking and sometimes
my perception of reality is real twisted... but still... doesn't
stop me being unreasonable.

Try valerian root, it has a great calming down effect and also has no
bad side effects. Sold in the supplement section of any drugstore. It
is basically an extract of valerian root. Has been used for centuries.

I've been taking Valerian root for some time now, and I swear by it.

"determined" wrote in message
...

"Reality Check" wrote in message
...
Well, I've been feeling a little under lately... not getting enough
strength
this week for my weight training although my running improved. I've
been
craving chocolates and I've been eating out so much at night... although
I
have been steadily losing weight... not much... like 2 lbs every 3
weeks.
(I'm 129lbs 5'2")

I'm also irritable and stress out over the littlest things. I wish I
was
a
lot calmer. The thing is that I'm aware of all of this but I can't help
getting myself stressed out at times. What do I do with my hormones?
They
say exercise help diminish PMS symptoms but I exercise every single day
and
I still get it. I am also aware that hormone imbalance can affect the
way
I'm thinking and sometimes my perception of reality is real twisted...
but
still... doesn't stop me being unreasonable.

Anyone have any bad experience with PMS or some hormonal imbalance as
such?
What do you do to relieve yourself of it? Do you stress out and snap
easily?

Thanks for listening... hope to hear your experiences.

I'm on the depo shot and haven't had pms for years...



I've been on depo for years and I suffere from depo pms... the week or so
before a shot I get really irratible.

"Reality Check" wrote in message
...

"Ignoramus30622" wrote in message
...

snip

Try valerian root, it has a great calming down effect and also has no
bad side effects. Sold in the supplement section of any drugstore. It
is basically an extract of valerian root. Has been used for centuries.

Hmmm I have a jar of this at home... the weird smelling stuff. I'll see
if
it works. Thanks for the tip

I guess I'm okay with losing weight slowly... I'm giving myself about 4
months to lose 10lbs. My "normal weight" is around 122lbs so I'm not far
off. I just feel that PMS is getting the better of me with the way I
think
and perceive reality. I have not a lot of patience with people.... but
I'm
probably making it sound worse that it really is.

Any jpegs? I've been 49kg for the past three years, struggling to get down
to 45kg. (I'm 4ft11".) But I don't worry too much about the scale nowadays;
I've lost and gained inches in the right places.

"Reality Check" wrote in message
...

"Ignoramus30622" wrote in message
...

Try valerian root, it has a great calming down effect and also has no
bad side effects. Sold in the supplement section of any drugstore. It
is basically an extract of valerian root. Has been used for centuries.

Hmmm I have a jar of this at home... the weird smelling stuff. I'll see
if it works. Thanks for the tip

I take valerian when I have trouble sleeping. When I first opened the
bottle, my husband and I agreed (I'm not sure which of us said it
first) that the stuff "smells like ass." So now my husband always
refers to the valerian as "the ass pills."

Works like a charm, though, without side effects or any woozy
morning-after grogginess.

Dawn

I have JPGs but not brave enough to share with everyone I'm afraid!

I have not lost a kg this year at all and we're already 2 weeks in. :-(

"Fredericks" ice_corona at yahoo dot co dot uk wrote in message
...

"Reality Check" wrote in message
...

"Ignoramus30622" wrote in message
...

snip

Try valerian root, it has a great calming down effect and also has no
bad side effects. Sold in the supplement section of any drugstore. It
is basically an extract of valerian root. Has been used for centuries.

Hmmm I have a jar of this at home... the weird smelling stuff. I'll see
if
it works. Thanks for the tip

I guess I'm okay with losing weight slowly... I'm giving myself about 4
months to lose 10lbs. My "normal weight" is around 122lbs so I'm not
far
off. I just feel that PMS is getting the better of me with the way I
think
and perceive reality. I have not a lot of patience with people.... but
I'm
probably making it sound worse that it really is.

Any jpegs? I've been 49kg for the past three years, struggling to get down
to 45kg. (I'm 4ft11".) But I don't worry too much about the scale
nowadays;
I've lost and gained inches in the right places.

Yeah they smell really funny. Do they slow down your metabolism? I'm
trying to lose weight.


"Dawn Taylor" wrote in message
...
"Reality Check" wrote in message
...

"Ignoramus30622" wrote in message
...

Try valerian root, it has a great calming down effect and also has no
bad side effects. Sold in the supplement section of any drugstore. It
is basically an extract of valerian root. Has been used for centuries.

Hmmm I have a jar of this at home... the weird smelling stuff. I'll see
if it works. Thanks for the tip

I take valerian when I have trouble sleeping. When I first opened the
bottle, my husband and I agreed (I'm not sure which of us said it
first) that the stuff "smells like ass." So now my husband always
refers to the valerian as "the ass pills."

Works like a charm, though, without side effects or any woozy
morning-after grogginess.

Dawn

I have chocolates craving (even as I type!) My breasts feel like they're
going to explode and I have no motivation to do anything.. although I do
force myself to do things. My cycle is very irregular.. I think the last
time I had my period was 6 weeks ago. I get depressed every 2-4 months
during PMS.


"Patricia Heil" wrote in message
...


I used to have major cravings for Doritos and potato chips
during PMS. It got easier when I put more fat free milk in
my eating program. I'm past that now.

Reality Check wrote:

Well, I've been feeling a little under lately... not getting enough
strength
this week for my weight training although my running improved. I've
been
craving chocolates and I've been eating out so much at night... although
I
have been steadily losing weight... not much... like 2 lbs every 3
weeks.
(I'm 129lbs 5'2")

I'm also irritable and stress out over the littlest things. I wish I
was a
lot calmer. The thing is that I'm aware of all of this but I can't help
getting myself stressed out at times. What do I do with my hormones?
They
say exercise help diminish PMS symptoms but I exercise every single day
and
I still get it. I am also aware that hormone imbalance can affect the
way
I'm thinking and sometimes my perception of reality is real twisted...
but
still... doesn't stop me being unreasonable.

Anyone have any bad experience with PMS or some hormonal imbalance as
such?
What do you do to relieve yourself of it? Do you stress out and snap
easily?

Thanks for listening... hope to hear your experiences.