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How a real scientist can make a difference. Eventually.



 
 
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 01:51 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Dogman
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:43:43 -0300, James Warren
wrote:


I'm sure it probably happens from time to time.


Yeah, just like it rains in Seattle from time to time!

The FDA has to take some of the
blame for failing to do due diligence.


The FDA is part of the problem, not the solution!

Sheesh.

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about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 01:53 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:44:30 -0300, James Warren
wrote:

[...]
Did you follow any of mine?

I didn't think so.


Actually I did.


Then why did you ask me about books, for example? I listed an entire
page of them.

See? You can't lie any better than Trader can.

“If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.”
-- Mark Twain

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"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty
about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 02:12 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:43:43 -0300, James Warren
wrote:


Read this book, James, you'll find out all you ever wanted to know
about your exalted medical and scientific communities:

Fraud and Misconduct in Biomedical Research
http://www.amazon.com/Fraud-Miscondu.../dp/1853157864

It's expensive, but your library can probably get it for you,
especially if you live near a major university.

Pay particular attention to the parts on Robert Gallo, the AIDS Inc.
crime lord you've sworn allegiance to.

Warning: Don't eat a heavy meal before you start reading it!

--
Dogman

"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty
about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 03:36 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
James Warren[_2_]
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On 22/05/2012 9:48 PM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:33:08 -0300, James
wrote:

[...]
Of your list, I know something about Avandia, Actos and HRT. I don't think there is
evidence of any deliberate attempt to deceive or harm anyone. Mistakes happen.

You were on the O.J. jury, weren't you?

Sheesh.


Do you mean to say that there is evidence of deception and deliberate harm?
Show it to us please.


Did you not read that article I posted today? That's typical, it's not
an anomaly.

How can a person of even normal intelligence come away with any other
conclusion, that they did it deliberately, and with deception!

And they do it all the time!

Now stop telling us to show you stuff; go find it yourself!

If you have to do a little work to find this stuff, you might actually
be more inclined to believe it.


One anecdote does not rampant practice make.

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Old May 23rd, 2012, 03:37 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
James Warren[_2_]
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On 22/05/2012 9:51 PM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:43:43 -0300, James
wrote:


I'm sure it probably happens from time to time.


Yeah, just like it rains in Seattle from time to time!

The FDA has to take some of the
blame for failing to do due diligence.


The FDA is part of the problem, not the solution!

Sheesh.


I'm sad to have to tell you this but we don't live in a perfect world.

--
-jw
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 03:38 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
James Warren[_2_]
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On 22/05/2012 9:53 PM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:44:30 -0300, James
wrote:

[...]
Did you follow any of mine?

I didn't think so.


Actually I did.


Then why did you ask me about books, for example? I listed an entire
page of them.


I don't recall even one in reply to me. How about just one from'
the other side?


See? You can't lie any better than Trader can.

“If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.”
-- Mark Twain



--
-jw
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 03:45 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
James Warren[_2_]
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On 22/05/2012 10:12 PM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:43:43 -0300, James
wrote:


Read this book, James, you'll find out all you ever wanted to know
about your exalted medical and scientific communities:

Fraud and Misconduct in Biomedical Research
http://www.amazon.com/Fraud-Miscondu.../dp/1853157864

It's expensive, but your library can probably get it for you,
especially if you live near a major university.


Whoa. That's a pricey book. I don't see any reviews for the book so it is
hard to assess its value.


Pay particular attention to the parts on Robert Gallo, the AIDS Inc.
crime lord you've sworn allegiance to.

Warning: Don't eat a heavy meal before you start reading it!



--
-jw
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 11:07 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
James Warren[_2_]
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On 23/05/2012 12:10 AM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:45:08 -0300, James
wrote:


Read this book, James, you'll find out all you ever wanted to know
about your exalted medical and scientific communities:

Fraud and Misconduct in Biomedical Research
http://www.amazon.com/Fraud-Miscondu.../dp/1853157864

It's expensive, but your library can probably get it for you,
especially if you live near a major university.


Whoa. That's a pricey book. I don't see any reviews for the book so it is
hard to assess its value.


That's why I said you can probably find it at your library!

Jeez, what a freakin' maroon.

I've never, ever encountered anyone who could find excuse after excuse
for remaining ignorant, like you can.

You da man!


Under the circumstances I find it difficult to go very far out of my way
on your recommendation.


--
Dogman

"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty
about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman



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-jw
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 11:09 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
James Warren[_2_]
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On 23/05/2012 12:11 AM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:38:12 -0300, James
wrote:


Then why did you ask me about books, for example? I listed an entire
page of them.


I don't recall even one in reply to me. How about just one from'
the other side?


That's your problem.


So you refuse.


--
Dogman

"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty
about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman



--
-jw
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 11:10 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
James Warren[_2_]
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Default How a real scientist can make a difference. Eventually.

On 23/05/2012 12:12 AM, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 23:37:02 -0300, James
wrote:


The FDA is part of the problem, not the solution!

Sheesh.


I'm sad to have to tell you this but we don't live in a perfect world.


It's about time that you've finally have figured that out!


You have been a fine exemplar of that all along.


--
Dogman

"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty
about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman



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-jw
 




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