What Is Low Carb To You

I'm wondering about the eating habits of people that were overweight by
more than 100lbs verses that of people in the 30lbs or under category.
In my experience I have lost weight due to what some people may think as
very strict carb counts. It seems to me that it works the best. My eating
habits before going on a diet were as follows. I ate out in restaurants
aprox. twice per month. I always drank diet pop. Twice per week I would have
a doughnut, but only one per sitting. Most of my meals were prepared at
home. Yes, alot of it was quiet high in carbs, because I believed what was
said at the time about calories should come from complex carbs. If I had
spaghetti, I would routinely have 1 or 2 whole wheat buns as well and
usually trying to hold back on the meat sauce because I didn't want to gain
weight. Most meals would have a potato, or Uncle Ben's rice, or some kind of
pasta with meat and some kind of veggie like broccoli, corn, or carrots. My
coffee was about 2 or 3 cups per day with 2 rounded teaspoons of sugar. For
snacking at night, we would usually have chips or pop corn. Hardly any
desserts after supper. Sometimes a bowl of ice cream. I don't believe, in my
opinion, that my eating habits were way out of line when compared to some
other people. In fact I would say it was at least average.
When I changed to lo-carb, I thought that my diet had changed a fair bit,
but I never felt that I was missing out. The only thing missing at meal time
was the high carb items. We were trying to eat better by eating at home
anyway, so it wasn't much of a change in that respect.
I 'm wondering about what the larger folks were eating before they went
lo-carb. Did you eat more at restaurants? Did you eat 2 or 3 donuts instead
of 1? I don't want to embarrass anyone. So you can just confirm if you feel
that over all you ate more refined, or more junk food than me. I have no
basis for what I am going to say next. Only feelings of possibility. If you
are a larger person, are you more likely to try the lo-carb products? Are
you eating what I would consider moderate carbs of more than 50gr even after
the "net grams" from lo-carb products during your weightloss? I do
understand that if you are in maintenance that you would of course be eating
more.
It seems that the larger people believe they are eating low carb, but may
in fact be eating almost as many carbs as I was before I even started to
lo-carb. Do you know what I mean? Some people seem to stall out at the point
that I started. So, if you are at 30lbs to go, how come I started the diet
at very low carb(20gr) being only 30lbs too heavy, and you are eating more
carbs when you are actually at my starting weight? If you are stalled out,
wouldn't you have to start eating like the way I did to lose weight? Is
stalling out at 30lbs to go really stalling out? Or is it because your carb
level is too high to continue losing weight because that is what your are
told to do in "ongoing weightloss", and you are actually at my starting
point? I know that I wasn't as heavy, so I don't know how it feels to be
stalled out.
I don't think I would have lost much weight at a higher carb level that
some of you are eating. But it seems that a heavier person is suppose to eat
that way because it says that you should not keep your carb levels too low
for too long. I know that some people will think this is off the wall, but
to me, it makes a lot of sense. YMMV(for all those that are going to tell me
that)
Tom
210/180/180

--



Tom + Pat Gallant

Tom wrote:
|| I'm wondering about the eating habits of people that were
|| overweight by more than 100lbs verses that of people in the 30lbs or
|| under category. In my experience I have lost weight due to what
|| some people may think as very strict carb counts. It seems to me
|| that it works the best. My eating habits before going on a diet were
|| as follows. I ate out in restaurants aprox. twice per month. I
|| always drank diet pop. Twice per week I would have a doughnut, but
|| only one per sitting. Most of my meals were prepared at home. Yes,
|| alot of it was quiet high in carbs, because I believed what was said
|| at the time about calories should come from complex carbs. If I had
|| spaghetti, I would routinely have 1 or 2 whole wheat buns as well
|| and usually trying to hold back on the meat sauce because I didn't
|| want to gain weight. Most meals would have a potato, or Uncle Ben's
|| rice, or some kind of pasta with meat and some kind of veggie like
|| broccoli, corn, or carrots. My coffee was about 2 or 3 cups per day
|| with 2 rounded teaspoons of sugar. For snacking at night, we would
|| usually have chips or pop corn. Hardly any desserts after supper.
|| Sometimes a bowl of ice cream. I don't believe, in my opinion, that
|| my eating habits were way out of line when compared to some other
|| people. In fact I would say it was at least average. When I changed
|| to lo-carb, I thought that my diet had changed a fair bit, but I
|| never felt that I was missing out. The only thing missing at meal
|| time was the high carb items. We were trying to eat better by
|| eating at home anyway, so it wasn't much of a change in that
|| respect. I 'm wondering about what the larger folks were eating
|| before they went lo-carb.

|| Did you eat more at restaurants?

Heck yeah....fast food, mostly. All of the fast food places between work
and home knew me well.

|| Did you
|| eat 2 or 3 donuts instead of 1?

I'd eat a dozen driving home from the dount shop. I'd eat two or three on
the way to work, and then eat breakfast -biscuts and sausage. I would eat
entire apple pies (the kind you'd buy at a deli) for dinner. You were a
lightweight in every since of the word compared to the old me. I ate a
lot -- and most of it was sugar-filled junk food. Quick, easy and void of
nutrition was the rule of hte day.

I don't want to embarrass anyone. So
|| you can just confirm if you feel that over all you ate more refined,
|| or more junk food than me. I have no basis for what I am going to
|| say next. Only feelings of possibility. If you are a larger person,
|| are you more likely to try the lo-carb products?

?? LC torillas? Yes.

Are you eating what
|| I would consider moderate carbs of more than 50gr even after the
|| "net grams" from lo-carb products during your weightloss?

"net grams" allow for subtracting fiber carbs, too, not just SAs.

I do
|| understand that if you are in maintenance that you would of course
|| be eating more. It seems that the larger people believe they are
|| eating low carb, but may in fact be eating almost as many carbs as I
|| was before I even started to lo-carb. Do you know what I mean?

Don't group larger people like this. Some larger people do their homework,
others don't. Just as with smaller people.

Some
|| people seem to stall out at the point that I started. So, if you are
|| at 30lbs to go, how come I started the diet at very low carb(20gr)
|| being only 30lbs too heavy, and you are eating more carbs when you
|| are actually at my starting weight?

That all depends. You haven't factored in exercise, LBM, age, general
activity, etc.

If you are stalled out, wouldn't
|| you have to start eating like the way I did to lose weight?

I'm not sure what's special about the way you're eating. Simply eating at a
level of 30g won't necessary bring weight loss. Some people simply like to
eat more than others. If you're only 30 lbs overweight, it could be that
getting to normal weight is simply more in your "world view" than someone
who has been 150 lbs overweight for years. Me personally, I just can't see
ever weighing 180 lbs. It just won't happen because I can't see myself
being that small (of course, I'm a big dude).

Is
|| stalling out at 30lbs to go really stalling out?

What exactly do you mean by stalling out? Unable to lose weight or simply
not really willing to lose weight by working hard at it?

Or is it because
|| your carb level is too high to continue losing weight because that
|| is what your are told to do in "ongoing weightloss", and you are
|| actually at my starting point?

You were at a steady state of 30 lbs overweight. You managed to create a
deficit that allowed you to lose 30 lbs. Someone that's 150 lbs overweight
can probably create a deficit and lose weight quickly at first, but after a
while, and the while will likely be longer than the period it takes you to
lose 30 lbs, the bigger person might become bored. Then it gets hard and
they simply may not try as hard as before. It's easy to lose quickly at
first, but eventually it takes real effort to keep going. I'd rather just
have 30 lbs to lose than 150 lbs anyday. Light at the end of the tunnel
kind of thing....

I know that I wasn't as heavy, so I
|| don't know how it feels to be stalled out. I don't think I would
|| have lost much weight at a higher carb level that some of you are
|| eating.

??? You do realize that some people can lose weight quite effectively on a
low fat (high carb) diet, right? I lost 100 lbs that way and I was a type 2
diabetic at the time. I simply had the time to do enough exercise at my
weight to create and maintain a calorie deficit.


But it seems that a heavier person is suppose to eat that
|| way because it says that you should not keep your carb levels too
|| low for too long.

Well, Atkins says to keep it as high as you can to still get weight loss.
That's an approach. However, Atkins doesn't know me, nor my demons. So, in
the end, I do what I think needs to be done (count calories as well as carbs
while exercising). I don't think it is just about carb levels all of time.
Some of us just like to eat...years of practice makes old habits....

I know that some people will think this is off
|| the wall, but to me, it makes a lot of sense. YMMV(for all those
|| that are going to tell me that) Tom 210/180/180
||

What you're saying probably does apply to some people.

Tom wrote:
|| I'm wondering about the eating habits of people that were
|| overweight by more than 100lbs verses that of people in the 30lbs or
|| under category. In my experience I have lost weight due to what
|| some people may think as very strict carb counts. It seems to me
|| that it works the best. My eating habits before going on a diet were
|| as follows. I ate out in restaurants aprox. twice per month. I
|| always drank diet pop. Twice per week I would have a doughnut, but
|| only one per sitting. Most of my meals were prepared at home. Yes,
|| alot of it was quiet high in carbs, because I believed what was said
|| at the time about calories should come from complex carbs. If I had
|| spaghetti, I would routinely have 1 or 2 whole wheat buns as well
|| and usually trying to hold back on the meat sauce because I didn't
|| want to gain weight. Most meals would have a potato, or Uncle Ben's
|| rice, or some kind of pasta with meat and some kind of veggie like
|| broccoli, corn, or carrots. My coffee was about 2 or 3 cups per day
|| with 2 rounded teaspoons of sugar. For snacking at night, we would
|| usually have chips or pop corn. Hardly any desserts after supper.
|| Sometimes a bowl of ice cream. I don't believe, in my opinion, that
|| my eating habits were way out of line when compared to some other
|| people. In fact I would say it was at least average. When I changed
|| to lo-carb, I thought that my diet had changed a fair bit, but I
|| never felt that I was missing out. The only thing missing at meal
|| time was the high carb items. We were trying to eat better by
|| eating at home anyway, so it wasn't much of a change in that
|| respect. I 'm wondering about what the larger folks were eating
|| before they went lo-carb.

|| Did you eat more at restaurants?

Heck yeah....fast food, mostly. All of the fast food places between work
and home knew me well.

|| Did you
|| eat 2 or 3 donuts instead of 1?

I'd eat a dozen driving home from the dount shop. I'd eat two or three on
the way to work, and then eat breakfast -biscuts and sausage. I would eat
entire apple pies (the kind you'd buy at a deli) for dinner. You were a
lightweight in every since of the word compared to the old me. I ate a
lot -- and most of it was sugar-filled junk food. Quick, easy and void of
nutrition was the rule of hte day.

I don't want to embarrass anyone. So
|| you can just confirm if you feel that over all you ate more refined,
|| or more junk food than me. I have no basis for what I am going to
|| say next. Only feelings of possibility. If you are a larger person,
|| are you more likely to try the lo-carb products?

?? LC torillas? Yes.

Are you eating what
|| I would consider moderate carbs of more than 50gr even after the
|| "net grams" from lo-carb products during your weightloss?

"net grams" allow for subtracting fiber carbs, too, not just SAs.

I do
|| understand that if you are in maintenance that you would of course
|| be eating more. It seems that the larger people believe they are
|| eating low carb, but may in fact be eating almost as many carbs as I
|| was before I even started to lo-carb. Do you know what I mean?

Don't group larger people like this. Some larger people do their homework,
others don't. Just as with smaller people.

Some
|| people seem to stall out at the point that I started. So, if you are
|| at 30lbs to go, how come I started the diet at very low carb(20gr)
|| being only 30lbs too heavy, and you are eating more carbs when you
|| are actually at my starting weight?

That all depends. You haven't factored in exercise, LBM, age, general
activity, etc.

If you are stalled out, wouldn't
|| you have to start eating like the way I did to lose weight?

I'm not sure what's special about the way you're eating. Simply eating at a
level of 30g won't necessary bring weight loss. Some people simply like to
eat more than others. If you're only 30 lbs overweight, it could be that
getting to normal weight is simply more in your "world view" than someone
who has been 150 lbs overweight for years. Me personally, I just can't see
ever weighing 180 lbs. It just won't happen because I can't see myself
being that small (of course, I'm a big dude).

Is
|| stalling out at 30lbs to go really stalling out?

What exactly do you mean by stalling out? Unable to lose weight or simply
not really willing to lose weight by working hard at it?

Or is it because
|| your carb level is too high to continue losing weight because that
|| is what your are told to do in "ongoing weightloss", and you are
|| actually at my starting point?

You were at a steady state of 30 lbs overweight. You managed to create a
deficit that allowed you to lose 30 lbs. Someone that's 150 lbs overweight
can probably create a deficit and lose weight quickly at first, but after a
while, and the while will likely be longer than the period it takes you to
lose 30 lbs, the bigger person might become bored. Then it gets hard and
they simply may not try as hard as before. It's easy to lose quickly at
first, but eventually it takes real effort to keep going. I'd rather just
have 30 lbs to lose than 150 lbs anyday. Light at the end of the tunnel
kind of thing....

I know that I wasn't as heavy, so I
|| don't know how it feels to be stalled out. I don't think I would
|| have lost much weight at a higher carb level that some of you are
|| eating.

??? You do realize that some people can lose weight quite effectively on a
low fat (high carb) diet, right? I lost 100 lbs that way and I was a type 2
diabetic at the time. I simply had the time to do enough exercise at my
weight to create and maintain a calorie deficit.


But it seems that a heavier person is suppose to eat that
|| way because it says that you should not keep your carb levels too
|| low for too long.

Well, Atkins says to keep it as high as you can to still get weight loss.
That's an approach. However, Atkins doesn't know me, nor my demons. So, in
the end, I do what I think needs to be done (count calories as well as carbs
while exercising). I don't think it is just about carb levels all of time.
Some of us just like to eat...years of practice makes old habits....

I know that some people will think this is off
|| the wall, but to me, it makes a lot of sense. YMMV(for all those
|| that are going to tell me that) Tom 210/180/180
||

What you're saying probably does apply to some people.

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:59:58 -0500, Roger Zoul
wrote:

Tom wrote:
|| I'm wondering about the eating habits of people that were
|| overweight by more than 100lbs verses that of people in the 30lbs or
|| under category. In my experience I have lost weight due to what
|| some people may think as very strict carb counts. It seems to me
|| that it works the best. My eating habits before going on a diet were
|| as follows. I ate out in restaurants aprox. twice per month. I
|| always drank diet pop. Twice per week I would have a doughnut, but
|| only one per sitting. Most of my meals were prepared at home. Yes,
|| alot of it was quiet high in carbs, because I believed what was said
|| at the time about calories should come from complex carbs. If I had
|| spaghetti, I would routinely have 1 or 2 whole wheat buns as well
|| and usually trying to hold back on the meat sauce because I didn't
|| want to gain weight. Most meals would have a potato, or Uncle Ben's
|| rice, or some kind of pasta with meat and some kind of veggie like
|| broccoli, corn, or carrots. My coffee was about 2 or 3 cups per day
|| with 2 rounded teaspoons of sugar. For snacking at night, we would
|| usually have chips or pop corn. Hardly any desserts after supper.
|| Sometimes a bowl of ice cream. I don't believe, in my opinion, that
|| my eating habits were way out of line when compared to some other
|| people. In fact I would say it was at least average. When I changed
|| to lo-carb, I thought that my diet had changed a fair bit, but I
|| never felt that I was missing out. The only thing missing at meal
|| time was the high carb items. We were trying to eat better by
|| eating at home anyway, so it wasn't much of a change in that
|| respect. I 'm wondering about what the larger folks were eating
|| before they went lo-carb.

|| Did you eat more at restaurants?

Heck yeah....fast food, mostly. All of the fast food places between work
and home knew me well.

|| Did you
|| eat 2 or 3 donuts instead of 1?

I'd eat a dozen driving home from the dount shop. I'd eat two or three
on
the way to work, and then eat breakfast -biscuts and sausage. I would eat
entire apple pies (the kind you'd buy at a deli) for dinner. You were a
lightweight in every since of the word compared to the old me. I ate a
lot -- and most of it was sugar-filled junk food. Quick, easy and void
of
nutrition was the rule of hte day.

I don't want to embarrass anyone. So
|| you can just confirm if you feel that over all you ate more refined,
|| or more junk food than me. I have no basis for what I am going to
|| say next. Only feelings of possibility. If you are a larger person,
|| are you more likely to try the lo-carb products?

?? LC torillas? Yes.


I've noticed a ton of LC tortillas lately.



--
Bob in CT

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:59:58 -0500, Roger Zoul
wrote:

Tom wrote:
|| I'm wondering about the eating habits of people that were
|| overweight by more than 100lbs verses that of people in the 30lbs or
|| under category. In my experience I have lost weight due to what
|| some people may think as very strict carb counts. It seems to me
|| that it works the best. My eating habits before going on a diet were
|| as follows. I ate out in restaurants aprox. twice per month. I
|| always drank diet pop. Twice per week I would have a doughnut, but
|| only one per sitting. Most of my meals were prepared at home. Yes,
|| alot of it was quiet high in carbs, because I believed what was said
|| at the time about calories should come from complex carbs. If I had
|| spaghetti, I would routinely have 1 or 2 whole wheat buns as well
|| and usually trying to hold back on the meat sauce because I didn't
|| want to gain weight. Most meals would have a potato, or Uncle Ben's
|| rice, or some kind of pasta with meat and some kind of veggie like
|| broccoli, corn, or carrots. My coffee was about 2 or 3 cups per day
|| with 2 rounded teaspoons of sugar. For snacking at night, we would
|| usually have chips or pop corn. Hardly any desserts after supper.
|| Sometimes a bowl of ice cream. I don't believe, in my opinion, that
|| my eating habits were way out of line when compared to some other
|| people. In fact I would say it was at least average. When I changed
|| to lo-carb, I thought that my diet had changed a fair bit, but I
|| never felt that I was missing out. The only thing missing at meal
|| time was the high carb items. We were trying to eat better by
|| eating at home anyway, so it wasn't much of a change in that
|| respect. I 'm wondering about what the larger folks were eating
|| before they went lo-carb.

|| Did you eat more at restaurants?

Heck yeah....fast food, mostly. All of the fast food places between work
and home knew me well.

|| Did you
|| eat 2 or 3 donuts instead of 1?

I'd eat a dozen driving home from the dount shop. I'd eat two or three
on
the way to work, and then eat breakfast -biscuts and sausage. I would eat
entire apple pies (the kind you'd buy at a deli) for dinner. You were a
lightweight in every since of the word compared to the old me. I ate a
lot -- and most of it was sugar-filled junk food. Quick, easy and void
of
nutrition was the rule of hte day.

I don't want to embarrass anyone. So
|| you can just confirm if you feel that over all you ate more refined,
|| or more junk food than me. I have no basis for what I am going to
|| say next. Only feelings of possibility. If you are a larger person,
|| are you more likely to try the lo-carb products?

?? LC torillas? Yes.


I've noticed a ton of LC tortillas lately.



--
Bob in CT

Bob Mauri wrote:
|| On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:59:58 -0500, Roger Zoul
|| wrote:
||
||| Tom wrote:
||||| I'm wondering about the eating habits of people that were
||||| overweight by more than 100lbs verses that of people in the 30lbs
||||| or under category. In my experience I have lost weight due to
||||| what
||||| some people may think as very strict carb counts. It seems to me
||||| that it works the best. My eating habits before going on a diet
||||| were as follows. I ate out in restaurants aprox. twice per month.
||||| I
||||| always drank diet pop. Twice per week I would have a doughnut, but
||||| only one per sitting. Most of my meals were prepared at home. Yes,
||||| alot of it was quiet high in carbs, because I believed what was
||||| said at the time about calories should come from complex carbs.
||||| If I had spaghetti, I would routinely have 1 or 2 whole wheat
||||| buns as well
||||| and usually trying to hold back on the meat sauce because I didn't
||||| want to gain weight. Most meals would have a potato, or Uncle
||||| Ben's rice, or some kind of pasta with meat and some kind of
||||| veggie like broccoli, corn, or carrots. My coffee was about 2 or
||||| 3 cups per day with 2 rounded teaspoons of sugar. For snacking at
||||| night, we would usually have chips or pop corn. Hardly any
||||| desserts after supper. Sometimes a bowl of ice cream. I don't
||||| believe, in my opinion, that my eating habits were way out of
||||| line when compared to some other people. In fact I would say it
||||| was at least average. When I changed to lo-carb, I thought that
||||| my diet had changed a fair bit, but I never felt that I was
||||| missing out. The only thing missing at meal time was the high
||||| carb items. We were trying to eat better by
||||| eating at home anyway, so it wasn't much of a change in that
||||| respect. I 'm wondering about what the larger folks were eating
||||| before they went lo-carb.
|||
||||| Did you eat more at restaurants?
|||
||| Heck yeah....fast food, mostly. All of the fast food places
||| between work and home knew me well.
|||
||||| Did you
||||| eat 2 or 3 donuts instead of 1?
|||
||| I'd eat a dozen driving home from the dount shop. I'd eat two or
||| three on
||| the way to work, and then eat breakfast -biscuts and sausage. I
||| would eat entire apple pies (the kind you'd buy at a deli) for
||| dinner. You were a lightweight in every since of the word compared
||| to the old me. I ate a lot -- and most of it was sugar-filled junk
||| food. Quick, easy and void of
||| nutrition was the rule of hte day.
|||
||| I don't want to embarrass anyone. So
||||| you can just confirm if you feel that over all you ate more
||||| refined, or more junk food than me. I have no basis for what I am
||||| going to
||||| say next. Only feelings of possibility. If you are a larger
||||| person, are you more likely to try the lo-carb products?
|||
||| ?? LC torillas? Yes.
|||
||
|| I've noticed a ton of LC tortillas lately.

I like the ones from Sami's Bakery.

Bob Mauri wrote:
|| On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:59:58 -0500, Roger Zoul
|| wrote:
||
||| Tom wrote:
||||| I'm wondering about the eating habits of people that were
||||| overweight by more than 100lbs verses that of people in the 30lbs
||||| or under category. In my experience I have lost weight due to
||||| what
||||| some people may think as very strict carb counts. It seems to me
||||| that it works the best. My eating habits before going on a diet
||||| were as follows. I ate out in restaurants aprox. twice per month.
||||| I
||||| always drank diet pop. Twice per week I would have a doughnut, but
||||| only one per sitting. Most of my meals were prepared at home. Yes,
||||| alot of it was quiet high in carbs, because I believed what was
||||| said at the time about calories should come from complex carbs.
||||| If I had spaghetti, I would routinely have 1 or 2 whole wheat
||||| buns as well
||||| and usually trying to hold back on the meat sauce because I didn't
||||| want to gain weight. Most meals would have a potato, or Uncle
||||| Ben's rice, or some kind of pasta with meat and some kind of
||||| veggie like broccoli, corn, or carrots. My coffee was about 2 or
||||| 3 cups per day with 2 rounded teaspoons of sugar. For snacking at
||||| night, we would usually have chips or pop corn. Hardly any
||||| desserts after supper. Sometimes a bowl of ice cream. I don't
||||| believe, in my opinion, that my eating habits were way out of
||||| line when compared to some other people. In fact I would say it
||||| was at least average. When I changed to lo-carb, I thought that
||||| my diet had changed a fair bit, but I never felt that I was
||||| missing out. The only thing missing at meal time was the high
||||| carb items. We were trying to eat better by
||||| eating at home anyway, so it wasn't much of a change in that
||||| respect. I 'm wondering about what the larger folks were eating
||||| before they went lo-carb.
|||
||||| Did you eat more at restaurants?
|||
||| Heck yeah....fast food, mostly. All of the fast food places
||| between work and home knew me well.
|||
||||| Did you
||||| eat 2 or 3 donuts instead of 1?
|||
||| I'd eat a dozen driving home from the dount shop. I'd eat two or
||| three on
||| the way to work, and then eat breakfast -biscuts and sausage. I
||| would eat entire apple pies (the kind you'd buy at a deli) for
||| dinner. You were a lightweight in every since of the word compared
||| to the old me. I ate a lot -- and most of it was sugar-filled junk
||| food. Quick, easy and void of
||| nutrition was the rule of hte day.
|||
||| I don't want to embarrass anyone. So
||||| you can just confirm if you feel that over all you ate more
||||| refined, or more junk food than me. I have no basis for what I am
||||| going to
||||| say next. Only feelings of possibility. If you are a larger
||||| person, are you more likely to try the lo-carb products?
|||
||| ?? LC torillas? Yes.
|||
||
|| I've noticed a ton of LC tortillas lately.

I like the ones from Sami's Bakery.

Graphic Queen wrote:
|| On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:24:07 -0500, "Bob Mauri"
|| wrote:
||
||| On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:59:58 -0500, Roger Zoul
||| wrote:
|||
|||| Tom wrote:
|||||| I'm wondering about the eating habits of people that were
|||||| overweight by more than 100lbs verses that of people in the
|||||| 30lbs or under category. In my experience I have lost weight
|||||| due to what
|||||| some people may think as very strict carb counts. It seems to me
|||||| that it works the best. My eating habits before going on a diet
|||||| were as follows. I ate out in restaurants aprox. twice per
|||||| month. I
|||||| always drank diet pop. Twice per week I would have a doughnut,
|||||| but only one per sitting. Most of my meals were prepared at
|||||| home. Yes, alot of it was quiet high in carbs, because I
|||||| believed what was said at the time about calories should come
|||||| from complex carbs. If I had spaghetti, I would routinely have 1
|||||| or 2 whole wheat buns as well
|||||| and usually trying to hold back on the meat sauce because I
|||||| didn't want to gain weight. Most meals would have a potato, or
|||||| Uncle Ben's rice, or some kind of pasta with meat and some kind
|||||| of veggie like broccoli, corn, or carrots. My coffee was about 2
|||||| or 3 cups per day with 2 rounded teaspoons of sugar. For
|||||| snacking at night, we would usually have chips or pop corn.
|||||| Hardly any desserts after supper. Sometimes a bowl of ice cream.
|||||| I don't believe, in my opinion, that my eating habits were
|||||| way out of line when compared to some other people. In fact I
|||||| would say it was at least average. When I changed to lo-carb, I
|||||| thought that my diet had changed a fair bit, but I never felt
|||||| that I was missing out. The only thing missing at meal time
|||||| was the high carb items. We were trying to eat better by
|||||| eating at home anyway, so it wasn't much of a change in that
|||||| respect. I 'm wondering about what the larger folks were eating
|||||| before they went lo-carb.
||||
|||||| Did you eat more at restaurants?
||||
|||| Heck yeah....fast food, mostly. All of the fast food places
|||| between work and home knew me well.
||||
|||||| Did you
|||||| eat 2 or 3 donuts instead of 1?
||||
|||| I'd eat a dozen driving home from the dount shop. I'd eat two or
|||| three on
|||| the way to work, and then eat breakfast -biscuts and sausage. I
|||| would eat entire apple pies (the kind you'd buy at a deli) for
|||| dinner. You were a lightweight in every since of the word
|||| compared to the old me. I ate a lot -- and most of it was
|||| sugar-filled junk food. Quick, easy and void of
|||| nutrition was the rule of hte day.
||||
|||| I don't want to embarrass anyone. So
|||||| you can just confirm if you feel that over all you ate more
|||||| refined, or more junk food than me. I have no basis for what I
|||||| am going to
|||||| say next. Only feelings of possibility. If you are a larger
|||||| person, are you more likely to try the lo-carb products?
||||
|||| ?? LC torillas? Yes.
||||
|||
||| I've noticed a ton of LC tortillas lately.
||
|| What kind would you suggest as having the best taste and lowest in
|| carbs?

I suggest you read the labels carefully, check the labal math for hidden
carbs, and just try some. Personally, I don't really care too much about
how the tortillas taste as I usually have something inside them and I can
deal with something that isn't exactly wonderful. OTOH, you may desire them
to taste good. The Mission brand tastes good to me, but I believe they lie
on the label and have more carbs than the label claims, so I generally avoid
them for everyday use.

Graphic Queen wrote:
|| On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:24:07 -0500, "Bob Mauri"
|| wrote:
||
||| On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:59:58 -0500, Roger Zoul
||| wrote:
|||
|||| Tom wrote:
|||||| I'm wondering about the eating habits of people that were
|||||| overweight by more than 100lbs verses that of people in the
|||||| 30lbs or under category. In my experience I have lost weight
|||||| due to what
|||||| some people may think as very strict carb counts. It seems to me
|||||| that it works the best. My eating habits before going on a diet
|||||| were as follows. I ate out in restaurants aprox. twice per
|||||| month. I
|||||| always drank diet pop. Twice per week I would have a doughnut,
|||||| but only one per sitting. Most of my meals were prepared at
|||||| home. Yes, alot of it was quiet high in carbs, because I
|||||| believed what was said at the time about calories should come
|||||| from complex carbs. If I had spaghetti, I would routinely have 1
|||||| or 2 whole wheat buns as well
|||||| and usually trying to hold back on the meat sauce because I
|||||| didn't want to gain weight. Most meals would have a potato, or
|||||| Uncle Ben's rice, or some kind of pasta with meat and some kind
|||||| of veggie like broccoli, corn, or carrots. My coffee was about 2
|||||| or 3 cups per day with 2 rounded teaspoons of sugar. For
|||||| snacking at night, we would usually have chips or pop corn.
|||||| Hardly any desserts after supper. Sometimes a bowl of ice cream.
|||||| I don't believe, in my opinion, that my eating habits were
|||||| way out of line when compared to some other people. In fact I
|||||| would say it was at least average. When I changed to lo-carb, I
|||||| thought that my diet had changed a fair bit, but I never felt
|||||| that I was missing out. The only thing missing at meal time
|||||| was the high carb items. We were trying to eat better by
|||||| eating at home anyway, so it wasn't much of a change in that
|||||| respect. I 'm wondering about what the larger folks were eating
|||||| before they went lo-carb.
||||
|||||| Did you eat more at restaurants?
||||
|||| Heck yeah....fast food, mostly. All of the fast food places
|||| between work and home knew me well.
||||
|||||| Did you
|||||| eat 2 or 3 donuts instead of 1?
||||
|||| I'd eat a dozen driving home from the dount shop. I'd eat two or
|||| three on
|||| the way to work, and then eat breakfast -biscuts and sausage. I
|||| would eat entire apple pies (the kind you'd buy at a deli) for
|||| dinner. You were a lightweight in every since of the word
|||| compared to the old me. I ate a lot -- and most of it was
|||| sugar-filled junk food. Quick, easy and void of
|||| nutrition was the rule of hte day.
||||
|||| I don't want to embarrass anyone. So
|||||| you can just confirm if you feel that over all you ate more
|||||| refined, or more junk food than me. I have no basis for what I
|||||| am going to
|||||| say next. Only feelings of possibility. If you are a larger
|||||| person, are you more likely to try the lo-carb products?
||||
|||| ?? LC torillas? Yes.
||||
|||
||| I've noticed a ton of LC tortillas lately.
||
|| What kind would you suggest as having the best taste and lowest in
|| carbs?

I suggest you read the labels carefully, check the labal math for hidden
carbs, and just try some. Personally, I don't really care too much about
how the tortillas taste as I usually have something inside them and I can
deal with something that isn't exactly wonderful. OTOH, you may desire them
to taste good. The Mission brand tastes good to me, but I believe they lie
on the label and have more carbs than the label claims, so I generally avoid
them for everyday use.

: || What kind would you suggest as having the best taste and lowest in
: || carbs?
:
: I suggest you read the labels carefully, check the labal math for hidden
: carbs, and just try some. Personally, I don't really care too much about
: how the tortillas taste as I usually have something inside them and I can
: deal with something that isn't exactly wonderful. OTOH, you may desire
them
: to taste good. The Mission brand tastes good to me, but I believe they
lie
: on the label and have more carbs than the label claims, so I generally
avoid
: them for everyday use.

What makes you think they're not being accurate? I think the Mission Lo-Carb
tortillas are the best I've ever had! I get the wheat version.

Pat in TX
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