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Rich wrote:
Maximize calories/dollar seems rational when on a budget. Do you think that is the conscious thought process though? Most economic forces aren't. In this case the drive is not to be hungry. Which foods do that the cheapest? Fat and sugar? Which foods are convenient and tastey? Fast foods. It's so rational it's painful. I haven't listened to the segment in the link but maybe income is related to education, and educated people make better choices? Just a thought. Education in this case will pretty much tell you you can't afford to eat better than you are for the same money. |
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TC wrote:
There is no cheaper and easier to prepare food than bread and/or pasta. And soda is pretty cheap too, often cheaper than milk. No fruits or veggies in your list and those are what are associated with health. |
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David wrote:
I'm in northern California where everything costs more, and our lettuce is usually $.99. I don't think it's "rationale" for anyone to eat a lot of fast food. Drive to other places and you'll see very little fresh lettuce and it will cost a fortune. My lettuce at safeway cost a $1.99 per head. Tomatoes are very expensive too. |
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RK wrote:
I just went to the market last night (after yelling at me for a week, lol i'm bad) anyhow.. a head of Lettuce was $1.17 in Central Ohio. Now tomatoes were $2.96 for 3 midsized ones. I agree.. about the fast food.. I know I certainly need to lay off it. But when the kid isn't home.. and hubbys just worked 18hrs and I can't stand more then 10mins.. it's much easier for him to pick up something on the way home. Why all my labs are good but my trigs and hdl because I can't exercise and eat too much fast food, lol and yet I'm not overweight. go figure. Some people smoke and are just fine too. It's good to be you, at least in this way. |
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Stacey Bender wrote in message ... Matthew wrote: Not where I shop. I can buy a weeks worth of fruits and vegetables for less than $15. Lucky me. If you don't eat any i could buy a years worth for $0/year :-) More informative would be where do you live and what are your prices per pound? I eat about 15 servings (1/2 cup) of fruit, 30 servings (1 cup) of leafy green vegetables, and 20 servings (1/2 cup) of other vegetables each week. The only prices I remember from last week were the really good ones: 10 oranges for $1 and cabbage at .25/lb. Eating fast food on limited income is actually the mostrational thing to do. Perhaps for certain variations on the word rational. Maximize calories/dollar seems rational when on a budget. And eating only the calories necessary seems rational when on a budget. And eating affordable food that actually tastes good seems rational at any income level. I let it slide the first time, but how do you figure fast food has the highest calorie/dollar ratio. How much a do potatoes cost where you are? Rice? Beans? Eggs? Whole milk? Matthew |
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"Stacey Bender" wrote in message ... Rich wrote: Maximize calories/dollar seems rational when on a budget. Do you think that is the conscious thought process though? Most economic forces aren't. In this case the drive is not to be hungry. Which foods do that the cheapest? Fat and sugar? Which foods are convenient and tastey? Fast foods. It's so rational it's painful. You're describing an impulse purchase, rationality is lost on impulses I haven't listened to the segment in the link but maybe income is related to education, and educated people make better choices? Just a thought. Education in this case will pretty much tell you you can't afford to eat better than you are for the same money. I disagree, read the examples others have posted. |
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"Stacey Bender" wrote in message ... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=3854505 This was a very interesting program. I hadn't really thought about the link between money and diet before, but it makes sense. If you earn less than 42K/year, which 50% of the US does, you have $4/day for food. How can you possibly eat health for that little? You can't. A head of lettuce is about $2. Fruit and veggies, even if available, are not purchasable at that income. Not true at all....our local grocery has head of lettuce for less than a dollar or a 3lb bag pre cut for less than $2....our local produce market has oranges for 33cents a lb and apples at 39 cents lb. and banana's for 38 cents a lb..... and/or one can go down to my freezer and get home frozen in season berries, peaches etc...but filling the freezer does require effort...... Even basic (broc, cauliflower, spinach, corn, peas etc.) store bought frozen vegs are not particularly expensive. So what are you left with? Fast food, where you can get enough calories for the money. Eating fast food on limitted income is actually the most rational thing to do. Or make your own hamburger or fast food item for 1/3 the cost..... regretably although far from all "poor" people are a bit lazy.....Rod |
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"Stacey Bender" wrote in message ... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=3854505 This was a very interesting program. I hadn't really thought about the link between money and diet before, but it makes sense. If you earn less than 42K/year, which 50% of the US does, you have $4/day for food. I can't believe that $42k is your poverty line. That's pretty well the average wage in the UK, so most Britains are managing on that kind of family income. How can you possibly eat health for that little? You can't. A head of lettuce is about $2. Fruit and veggies, even if available, are not purchasable at that income. Well, let's see. I made turkey tortilla wraps for supper tonight; I used a package of high-carb wraps plus 2 low-carb ones, total cost about £1. A head of lettuce, an apple, a few sticks of celery, a red onion and some home-made yoghurt must have cost maybe 50p more. The turkey cost £2.50, but I stole a big piece out for the kids' packed lunch tomorrow (pasta salad). So for around £1 a head, I got 4 main meals plus 2 kid-size lunches. The problem with being poor is not particularly that good food is unobtainable - I've been there, and the real issue is that good food from good ingredients takes such a lot of time. You have to source the ingredients (either by shopping around, or even growing them), then cheap meats often need long, slow cooking. If you're working full-time, it's way too easy just to take the line of least resistance and go for fast food. It's much easier to make savings if you have a little bit more of a cushion.. Nicky. -- A1c 10.5/4.5/6 Weight 95/76/72Kg 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine T2 DX 05/2004 |
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Nicky, they didn't say that 42K was the poverty line. It says 42K is the
middle income, with 50% below that figure, there are a lot of families living on that amount. It all depends where you live. A single on 42K would be near the poverty line in CA or HI but could live high on the hog in TX or AL on that amount. Anon "Nicky" wrote in message ... "Stacey Bender" wrote in message ... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=3854505 This was a very interesting program. I hadn't really thought about the link between money and diet before, but it makes sense. If you earn less than 42K/year, which 50% of the US does, you have $4/day for food. I can't believe that $42k is your poverty line. That's pretty well the average wage in the UK, so most Britains are managing on that kind of family income. How can you possibly eat health for that little? You can't. A head of lettuce is about $2. Fruit and veggies, even if available, are not purchasable at that income. Well, let's see. I made turkey tortilla wraps for supper tonight; I used a package of high-carb wraps plus 2 low-carb ones, total cost about £1. A head of lettuce, an apple, a few sticks of celery, a red onion and some home-made yoghurt must have cost maybe 50p more. The turkey cost £2.50, but I stole a big piece out for the kids' packed lunch tomorrow (pasta salad). So for around £1 a head, I got 4 main meals plus 2 kid-size lunches. The problem with being poor is not particularly that good food is unobtainable - I've been there, and the real issue is that good food from good ingredients takes such a lot of time. You have to source the ingredients (either by shopping around, or even growing them), then cheap meats often need long, slow cooking. If you're working full-time, it's way too easy just to take the line of least resistance and go for fast food. It's much easier to make savings if you have a little bit more of a cushion.. Nicky. -- A1c 10.5/4.5/6 Weight 95/76/72Kg 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine T2 DX 05/2004 |
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"Anon" wrote in message ... Nicky, they didn't say that 42K was the poverty line. It says 42K is the middle income, with 50% below that figure, there are a lot of families living on that amount. It all depends where you live. A single on 42K would be near the poverty line in CA or HI but could live high on the hog in TX or AL on that amount. Right - but presumably you've got a similar bell-curve distribution to the UK, so a Pareto analysis says 80% of people have something like that income. I just don't believe it's not possible for most of your population to eat reasonably on that amount of money! Nicky. -- A1c 10.5/4.5/6 Weight 95/76/72Kg 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine T2 DX 05/2004 |
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