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Old March 5th, 2007, 07:35 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.nutrition,sci.med.cardiology,misc.health.alternative
Diarmid
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Default Eat To Live: Atkins diet back on top

http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...-104908-6834r/

By JULIA WATSON

UPI Food Writer

WASHINGTON, March 5 (UPI) -- A friend getting ready for beach season
has just gone back onto the Atkins Diet. How so last century. Hasn't
she heard of the Zone? The GI diet? A mutual acquaintance swears by
the Ornish regime.

Haven't we been there, done Atkins? And wasn't it unhealthy for us,
anyway?

If we think along either of these lines, we shouldn't. A new Stanford
University study finds the Atkins diet is most effective for reducing
weight in women.

Study leader Christopher Gardner, a professor of medicine at Stanford
University's Disease Prevention Research Center in California, told
Britain's Sunday Times, "So many people have been asking questions
about diets for years. We think it's time to give them some answers."

When his study is published this week, it will show of the four
regimes under review, the Atkins diet resulted in the greatest weight
loss -- with no indication of undesirable side-effects.

Launched in 1972 by the late Dr. Robert Atkins with his best-selling
book "Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution," the Atkins diet cuts carbohydrates
like bread and sugar and boosts consumption of proteins like meat and
cheese.

The Ornish Diet was devised by a doctor treating heart disease. It
advocates eliminating blockages to the heart through a high-fiber, low-
fat vegetarian diet that was also found to reduce a patient's weight.

The Zone controls the balance of insulin and eicosanoids, neither too
much nor too little, by balancing protein and carbohydrates. In this
good "zone," fat loss is increased while the risk of cardiovascular
disease is decreased.

The GI diet is based on specific foods that release glucose in a slow
and manageable fashion into the bloodstream.

These diets have come into prominence as the Atkins diet lost
popularity, mainly due to concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out
carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and
cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of protective
nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some cancers and heart
disease.

Gardner's study took 311 premenopausal women and divided them into
four groups. Each was put onto a different diet for one year: the
Atkins, the Zone, the Ornish and LEARN, which is the U.S. government's
recommendation of a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet.

The 77 women in the Atkins group lost an average of 10 pounds --
around twice as much as those on the Ornish and LEARN diets -- while
those on the Zone lost an average of 3.5 pounds.

The reduction of body mass index, triglycerides and blood pressure in
the Atkins group was also higher than among the women of the other
groups. These are all indicators of improved health.

The head of nutrition and health research at Britain's Medical
Research Council, Susan Jebb, told the Sunday Times she believes
Atkins is successful because the diet allows high intakes of meat and
fat, and thus was easier to follow than more austere regimes.

Mothers looking for some way to tackle their children's overweight may
be glad to hear of the approval for Atkins.

A recent study in the journal Pediatrics suggests childhood obesity
that begins as young as 3 years old can result in the early onset of
puberty, sometimes as early as 9 years old.

Not only are girls who reach puberty earlier than the standard age of
10 or more at greater risk of certain cancers including breast cancer,
they are more likely to start drinking alcohol and have sexual
intercourse earlier, too.

The Atkins diet would allow young girls to eat the kind of food that
won't separate them from their peers -- cheeseburgers, for instance,
but without the bun.

******************************

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...868811290.html

Locusts hold key to ideal diet

Louise Hall

March 4, 2007

THE eating habits of locusts and caterpillars might hold the key to
discovering the perfect diet, researchers say.

At the University of Sydney, obesity experts are conducting a three-
year trial that aims to prove people keep eating until they have
satisfied their appetite for protein.

The study will involve groups of volunteers kept in laboratory
conditions for a week at a time and fed carefully manipulated diets.

The project's chief investigator, Professor Stephen Simpson, said the
study will test his "protein leverage hypothesis" that high-protein
diets, such as the CSIRO Total Wellbeing and Atkins, work not because
they cut out carbohydrates but because they are high in protein.

The theory follows the observation that insects such as locusts move
in swarms to areas providing enough protein for their diet.

Humans don't move, they eat more.

"If you eat a diet with a high proportion of fat and carbohydrates -
the typical modern Western diet - you will keep eating until you get
the amount of protein the body needs before you feel full," Professor
Simpson said. "And that means you will grossly overeat."

The researchers will soon begin recruiting volunteers - 24 lean and 24
obese - who will live in a special unit at Royal Prince Alfred
Hospital for three periods of one week.

Monitored 24 hours a day by research staff, the volunteers will be
given a low, medium or high protein diet and the amount they eat and
their weight will be measured.

"In the week they eat a high-protein diet they should eat fewer
calories," co-researcher Professor Ian Caterson said.

  #2  
Old March 5th, 2007, 07:50 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.nutrition,sci.med.cardiology,misc.health.alternative
Bob in CT[_2_]
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Default Eat To Live: Atkins diet back on top

On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:35:35 -0500, Diarmid wrote:

http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...-104908-6834r/

By JULIA WATSON

UPI Food Writer

WASHINGTON, March 5 (UPI) -- A friend getting ready for beach season
has just gone back onto the Atkins Diet. How so last century. Hasn't
she heard of the Zone? The GI diet? A mutual acquaintance swears by
the Ornish regime.

Haven't we been there, done Atkins? And wasn't it unhealthy for us,
anyway?

If we think along either of these lines, we shouldn't. A new Stanford
University study finds the Atkins diet is most effective for reducing
weight in women.

Study leader Christopher Gardner, a professor of medicine at Stanford
University's Disease Prevention Research Center in California, told
Britain's Sunday Times, "So many people have been asking questions
about diets for years. We think it's time to give them some answers."

When his study is published this week, it will show of the four
regimes under review, the Atkins diet resulted in the greatest weight
loss -- with no indication of undesirable side-effects.

Launched in 1972 by the late Dr. Robert Atkins with his best-selling
book "Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution," the Atkins diet cuts carbohydrates
like bread and sugar and boosts consumption of proteins like meat and
cheese.

The Ornish Diet was devised by a doctor treating heart disease. It
advocates eliminating blockages to the heart through a high-fiber, low-
fat vegetarian diet that was also found to reduce a patient's weight.


This stuff about the Ornish diet is so bad, I'm not sure where to start.

The Zone controls the balance of insulin and eicosanoids, neither too
much nor too little, by balancing protein and carbohydrates. In this
good "zone," fat loss is increased while the risk of cardiovascular
disease is decreased.

The GI diet is based on specific foods that release glucose in a slow
and manageable fashion into the bloodstream.

These diets have come into prominence as the Atkins diet lost
popularity, mainly due to concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out
carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and
cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of protective
nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some cancers and heart
disease.

Gardner's study took 311 premenopausal women and divided them into
four groups. Each was put onto a different diet for one year: the
Atkins, the Zone, the Ornish and LEARN, which is the U.S. government's
recommendation of a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet.

The 77 women in the Atkins group lost an average of 10 pounds --
around twice as much as those on the Ornish and LEARN diets -- while
those on the Zone lost an average of 3.5 pounds.

The reduction of body mass index, triglycerides and blood pressure in
the Atkins group was also higher than among the women of the other
groups. These are all indicators of improved health.

The head of nutrition and health research at Britain's Medical
Research Council, Susan Jebb, told the Sunday Times she believes
Atkins is successful because the diet allows high intakes of meat and
fat, and thus was easier to follow than more austere regimes.

Mothers looking for some way to tackle their children's overweight may
be glad to hear of the approval for Atkins.

A recent study in the journal Pediatrics suggests childhood obesity
that begins as young as 3 years old can result in the early onset of
puberty, sometimes as early as 9 years old.

Not only are girls who reach puberty earlier than the standard age of
10 or more at greater risk of certain cancers including breast cancer,
they are more likely to start drinking alcohol and have sexual
intercourse earlier, too.

The Atkins diet would allow young girls to eat the kind of food that
won't separate them from their peers -- cheeseburgers, for instance,
but without the bun.

******************************

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...868811290.html

Locusts hold key to ideal diet

Louise Hall

March 4, 2007

THE eating habits of locusts and caterpillars might hold the key to
discovering the perfect diet, researchers say.

At the University of Sydney, obesity experts are conducting a three-
year trial that aims to prove people keep eating until they have
satisfied their appetite for protein.

The study will involve groups of volunteers kept in laboratory
conditions for a week at a time and fed carefully manipulated diets.

The project's chief investigator, Professor Stephen Simpson, said the
study will test his "protein leverage hypothesis" that high-protein
diets, such as the CSIRO Total Wellbeing and Atkins, work not because
they cut out carbohydrates but because they are high in protein.

The theory follows the observation that insects such as locusts move
in swarms to areas providing enough protein for their diet.

Humans don't move, they eat more.

"If you eat a diet with a high proportion of fat and carbohydrates -
the typical modern Western diet - you will keep eating until you get
the amount of protein the body needs before you feel full," Professor
Simpson said. "And that means you will grossly overeat."

The researchers will soon begin recruiting volunteers - 24 lean and 24
obese - who will live in a special unit at Royal Prince Alfred
Hospital for three periods of one week.

Monitored 24 hours a day by research staff, the volunteers will be
given a low, medium or high protein diet and the amount they eat and
their weight will be measured.

"In the week they eat a high-protein diet they should eat fewer
calories," co-researcher Professor Ian Caterson said.


And this isn't known? There are tons of studies showing an increase in
protein is good.

--
Bob in CT
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Old March 5th, 2007, 09:08 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Bob in CT[_2_]
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Default Eat To Live: Atkins diet back on top

Oops. I didn't see it was cross posted.

On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:50:44 -0500, Bob in CT
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:35:35 -0500, Diarmid
wrote:

http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...-104908-6834r/

By JULIA WATSON

UPI Food Writer

WASHINGTON, March 5 (UPI) -- A friend getting ready for beach season
has just gone back onto the Atkins Diet. How so last century. Hasn't
she heard of the Zone? The GI diet? A mutual acquaintance swears by
the Ornish regime.

Haven't we been there, done Atkins? And wasn't it unhealthy for us,
anyway?

If we think along either of these lines, we shouldn't. A new Stanford
University study finds the Atkins diet is most effective for reducing
weight in women.

Study leader Christopher Gardner, a professor of medicine at Stanford
University's Disease Prevention Research Center in California, told
Britain's Sunday Times, "So many people have been asking questions
about diets for years. We think it's time to give them some answers."

When his study is published this week, it will show of the four
regimes under review, the Atkins diet resulted in the greatest weight
loss -- with no indication of undesirable side-effects.

Launched in 1972 by the late Dr. Robert Atkins with his best-selling
book "Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution," the Atkins diet cuts carbohydrates
like bread and sugar and boosts consumption of proteins like meat and
cheese.

The Ornish Diet was devised by a doctor treating heart disease. It
advocates eliminating blockages to the heart through a high-fiber, low-
fat vegetarian diet that was also found to reduce a patient's weight.


This stuff about the Ornish diet is so bad, I'm not sure where to start.

The Zone controls the balance of insulin and eicosanoids, neither too
much nor too little, by balancing protein and carbohydrates. In this
good "zone," fat loss is increased while the risk of cardiovascular
disease is decreased.

The GI diet is based on specific foods that release glucose in a slow
and manageable fashion into the bloodstream.

These diets have come into prominence as the Atkins diet lost
popularity, mainly due to concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out
carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and
cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of protective
nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some cancers and heart
disease.

Gardner's study took 311 premenopausal women and divided them into
four groups. Each was put onto a different diet for one year: the
Atkins, the Zone, the Ornish and LEARN, which is the U.S. government's
recommendation of a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet.

The 77 women in the Atkins group lost an average of 10 pounds --
around twice as much as those on the Ornish and LEARN diets -- while
those on the Zone lost an average of 3.5 pounds.

The reduction of body mass index, triglycerides and blood pressure in
the Atkins group was also higher than among the women of the other
groups. These are all indicators of improved health.

The head of nutrition and health research at Britain's Medical
Research Council, Susan Jebb, told the Sunday Times she believes
Atkins is successful because the diet allows high intakes of meat and
fat, and thus was easier to follow than more austere regimes.

Mothers looking for some way to tackle their children's overweight may
be glad to hear of the approval for Atkins.

A recent study in the journal Pediatrics suggests childhood obesity
that begins as young as 3 years old can result in the early onset of
puberty, sometimes as early as 9 years old.

Not only are girls who reach puberty earlier than the standard age of
10 or more at greater risk of certain cancers including breast cancer,
they are more likely to start drinking alcohol and have sexual
intercourse earlier, too.

The Atkins diet would allow young girls to eat the kind of food that
won't separate them from their peers -- cheeseburgers, for instance,
but without the bun.

******************************

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...868811290.html

Locusts hold key to ideal diet

Louise Hall

March 4, 2007

THE eating habits of locusts and caterpillars might hold the key to
discovering the perfect diet, researchers say.

At the University of Sydney, obesity experts are conducting a three-
year trial that aims to prove people keep eating until they have
satisfied their appetite for protein.

The study will involve groups of volunteers kept in laboratory
conditions for a week at a time and fed carefully manipulated diets.

The project's chief investigator, Professor Stephen Simpson, said the
study will test his "protein leverage hypothesis" that high-protein
diets, such as the CSIRO Total Wellbeing and Atkins, work not because
they cut out carbohydrates but because they are high in protein.

The theory follows the observation that insects such as locusts move
in swarms to areas providing enough protein for their diet.

Humans don't move, they eat more.

"If you eat a diet with a high proportion of fat and carbohydrates -
the typical modern Western diet - you will keep eating until you get
the amount of protein the body needs before you feel full," Professor
Simpson said. "And that means you will grossly overeat."

The researchers will soon begin recruiting volunteers - 24 lean and 24
obese - who will live in a special unit at Royal Prince Alfred
Hospital for three periods of one week.

Monitored 24 hours a day by research staff, the volunteers will be
given a low, medium or high protein diet and the amount they eat and
their weight will be measured.

"In the week they eat a high-protein diet they should eat fewer
calories," co-researcher Professor Ian Caterson said.


And this isn't known? There are tons of studies showing an increase in
protein is good.




--
Bob in CT
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Old March 5th, 2007, 09:19 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Roger Zoul
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Default Eat To Live: Atkins diet back on top

Diarmid wrote:
..
::
:: The head of nutrition and health research at Britain's Medical
:: Research Council, Susan Jebb,

Isn't she on record are being anti-Atkins?


  #5  
Old March 5th, 2007, 09:29 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.nutrition,sci.med.cardiology,misc.health.alternative
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Default Eat To Live: Atkins diet back on top

"Diarmid" quoted:

http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...ns_diet_back_o...
By JULIA WATSON
UPI Food Writer

If we think along either of these lines, we shouldn't. A new Stanford
University study finds the Atkins diet is most effective for reducing
weight in women.


Another short term study. Nice. Time for longer term ones please.

Launched in 1972 by the late Dr. Robert Atkins with his best-selling
book "Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution," the Atkins diet cuts carbohydrates
like bread and sugar and boosts consumption of proteins like meat and
cheese.
...
These diets have come into prominence as the Atkins diet lost
popularity, mainly due to concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out
carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and
cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of protective
nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some cancers and heart
disease.


Just once I want to read about a study that's actually about doing
what the directions say for Atkins and not this made up crap about
eliminating veggies and such!

  #6  
Old March 5th, 2007, 10:09 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.nutrition,sci.med.cardiology,misc.health.alternative
Jbuch
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Default Eat To Live: Atkins diet back on top

Bob in CT wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:35:35 -0500, Diarmid wrote:

http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...-104908-6834r/


By JULIA WATSON

UPI Food Writer

WASHINGTON, March 5 (UPI) -- A friend getting ready for beach season
has just gone back onto the Atkins Diet. How so last century. Hasn't
she heard of the Zone? The GI diet? A mutual acquaintance swears by
the Ornish regime.

Haven't we been there, done Atkins? And wasn't it unhealthy for us,
anyway?

SNIP

SMIP


Gardner's study took 311 premenopausal women and divided them into
four groups. Each was put onto a different diet for one year: the
Atkins, the Zone, the Ornish and LEARN, which is the U.S. government's
recommendation of a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet.

The 77 women in the Atkins group lost an average of 10 pounds --
around twice as much as those on the Ornish and LEARN diets -- while
those on the Zone lost an average of 3.5 pounds.

The reduction of body mass index, triglycerides and blood pressure in
the Atkins group was also higher than among the women of the other
groups. These are all indicators of improved health.

The head of nutrition and health research at Britain's Medical
Research Council, Susan Jebb, told the Sunday Times she believes
Atkins is successful because the diet allows high intakes of meat and
fat, and thus was easier to follow than more austere regimes.

SNIP

SNIP

******************************

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...868811290.html


Locusts hold key to ideal diet

Louise Hall

March 4, 2007

THE eating habits of locusts and caterpillars might hold the key to
discovering the perfect diet, researchers say.

At the University of Sydney, obesity experts are conducting a three-
year trial that aims to prove people keep eating until they have
satisfied their appetite for protein.

The study will involve groups of volunteers kept in laboratory
conditions for a week at a time and fed carefully manipulated diets.

The project's chief investigator, Professor Stephen Simpson, said the
study will test his "protein leverage hypothesis" that high-protein
diets, such as the CSIRO Total Wellbeing and Atkins, work not because
they cut out carbohydrates but because they are high in protein.

The theory follows the observation that insects such as locusts move
in swarms to areas providing enough protein for their diet.

Humans don't move, they eat more.

"If you eat a diet with a high proportion of fat and carbohydrates -
the typical modern Western diet - you will keep eating until you get
the amount of protein the body needs before you feel full," Professor
Simpson said. "And that means you will grossly overeat."

The researchers will soon begin recruiting volunteers - 24 lean and 24
obese - who will live in a special unit at Royal Prince Alfred
Hospital for three periods of one week.

Monitored 24 hours a day by research staff, the volunteers will be
given a low, medium or high protein diet and the amount they eat and
their weight will be measured.

"In the week they eat a high-protein diet they should eat fewer
calories," co-researcher Professor Ian Caterson said.


And this isn't known? There are tons of studies showing an increase in
protein is good.


The issue of protein being good or not so good isn't the issue at all.

The evident issue is that PROTEIN IS AN APPETITE REGULATOR.

They drew the inference from protein consumption behaviors in insects
MOVE TO WHERE THERE IS MORE PROTEIN, and a statement about protein
consumption behavior in humans. EAT MORE WHERE YOU ARE.

It isn't about protein being "good" at all, but about consumption patterns.

Supposedly, one is to tie the first story on the evident superiority of
the Atkins diet to the second study on the consumption of protein as an
appetite regulator.

Thus, you presumably have better appetite control with a
"Atkins/Protein" diet and you have better weight loss.
  #7  
Old March 5th, 2007, 10:13 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.nutrition,sci.med.cardiology,misc.health.alternative
Jbuch
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Default Eat To Live: Atkins diet back on top

Doug Freyburger wrote:
"Diarmid" quoted:

http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...ns_diet_back_o...
By JULIA WATSON
UPI Food Writer

If we think along either of these lines, we shouldn't. A new Stanford
University study finds the Atkins diet is most effective for reducing
weight in women.



Another short term study. Nice. Time for longer term ones please.


Launched in 1972 by the late Dr. Robert Atkins with his best-selling
book "Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution," the Atkins diet cuts carbohydrates
like bread and sugar and boosts consumption of proteins like meat and
cheese.
...
These diets have come into prominence as the Atkins diet lost
popularity, mainly due to concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out
carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and
cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of protective
nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some cancers and heart
disease.



Just once I want to read about a study that's actually about doing
what the directions say for Atkins and not this made up crap about
eliminating veggies and such!



What about the "disruptive" concerns of nutritionists.....
concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out
carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and
cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of protective
nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some cancers and heart
disease.



There probably never were any such "studies" as indicated above, but
rather repeated expressions of opinions and opinions that somehow, this
has got to be bad .....
  #8  
Old March 5th, 2007, 10:20 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.nutrition,sci.med.cardiology,misc.health.alternative
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Default Eat To Live: Atkins diet back on top

"Doug Freyburger" wrote in part:

"Diarmid" quoted:

http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...ns_diet_back_o...
By JULIA WATSON
UPI Food Writer

If we think along either of these lines, we shouldn't. A new Stanford
University study finds the Atkins diet is most effective for reducing
weight in women.


Another short term study. Nice. Time for longer term ones please.

Launched in 1972 by the late Dr. Robert Atkins with his best-selling
book "Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution," the Atkins diet cuts carbohydrates
like bread and sugar and boosts consumption of proteins like meat and
cheese.
...
These diets have come into prominence as the Atkins diet lost
popularity, mainly due to concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out
carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and
cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of protective
nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some cancers and heart
disease.


Just once I want to read about a study that's actually about doing
what the directions say for Atkins and not this made up crap about
eliminating veggies and such!


Ain't it the truth.
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
  #9  
Old March 5th, 2007, 10:22 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Roger Zoul
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Default Eat To Live: Atkins diet back on top

Jbuch wrote:
::: And this isn't known? There are tons of studies showing an
::: increase in protein is good.
:::
::
:: The issue of protein being good or not so good isn't the issue at
:: all.

I know people who still say "All that protein isn't good for you."

What about that Special K Protein Water and the conversation here?


::
:: The evident issue is that PROTEIN IS AN APPETITE REGULATOR.
::

Actually, I'm willing to bet that's what Bob meant.

:: They drew the inference from protein consumption behaviors in insects
:: MOVE TO WHERE THERE IS MORE PROTEIN, and a statement about protein
:: consumption behavior in humans. EAT MORE WHERE YOU ARE.
::
:: It isn't about protein being "good" at all, but about consumption
:: patterns.
::

We like to eat until we get enough protein! Protein Power!

:: Supposedly, one is to tie the first story on the evident superiority
:: of the Atkins diet to the second study on the consumption of protein
:: as an appetite regulator.
::
:: Thus, you presumably have better appetite control with a
:: "Atkins/Protein" diet and you have better weight loss.

And many of us think Atkins is high fat, not high protein. But many of us
probably get sufficient protein trying to get enough fat, so that Atkins
works by accident (or so they would say).

Has anyone else noticed that both carbs and fat (taken separately) make
protein take good? Eat something that's mostly protein and it tastes like
YUCK. Put some carb in the mix, or some fat in the mix, and protein is good.
But put carbs and fat in there and you get something that is generally
deadly, since it tends to get overconsumed.


  #10  
Old March 5th, 2007, 10:32 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Roger Zoul
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Default Eat To Live: Atkins diet back on top

Jbuch wrote:
:: Doug Freyburger wrote:
:::
::: Just once I want to read about a study that's actually about doing
::: what the directions say for Atkins and not this made up crap about
::: eliminating veggies and such!
:::
::
::
:: What about the "disruptive" concerns of nutritionists.....
::: concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out
::::: carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and
::::: cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of
::::: protective nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some
::::: cancers and heart disease.
::
::
:: There probably never were any such "studies" as indicated above, but
:: rather repeated expressions of opinions and opinions that somehow,
:: this has got to be bad .....

No doubt. People express opinions about mere notions, like what some few
people supposedly do or might do when they "hear" how some woman lost 50 lbs
on Atkins, just eating nothing but bacon and cheese.


 




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