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Eat To Live: Atkins diet back on top
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By JULIA WATSON UPI Food Writer WASHINGTON, March 5 (UPI) -- A friend getting ready for beach season has just gone back onto the Atkins Diet. How so last century. Hasn't she heard of the Zone? The GI diet? A mutual acquaintance swears by the Ornish regime. Haven't we been there, done Atkins? And wasn't it unhealthy for us, anyway? If we think along either of these lines, we shouldn't. A new Stanford University study finds the Atkins diet is most effective for reducing weight in women. Study leader Christopher Gardner, a professor of medicine at Stanford University's Disease Prevention Research Center in California, told Britain's Sunday Times, "So many people have been asking questions about diets for years. We think it's time to give them some answers." When his study is published this week, it will show of the four regimes under review, the Atkins diet resulted in the greatest weight loss -- with no indication of undesirable side-effects. Launched in 1972 by the late Dr. Robert Atkins with his best-selling book "Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution," the Atkins diet cuts carbohydrates like bread and sugar and boosts consumption of proteins like meat and cheese. The Ornish Diet was devised by a doctor treating heart disease. It advocates eliminating blockages to the heart through a high-fiber, low- fat vegetarian diet that was also found to reduce a patient's weight. The Zone controls the balance of insulin and eicosanoids, neither too much nor too little, by balancing protein and carbohydrates. In this good "zone," fat loss is increased while the risk of cardiovascular disease is decreased. The GI diet is based on specific foods that release glucose in a slow and manageable fashion into the bloodstream. These diets have come into prominence as the Atkins diet lost popularity, mainly due to concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of protective nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some cancers and heart disease. Gardner's study took 311 premenopausal women and divided them into four groups. Each was put onto a different diet for one year: the Atkins, the Zone, the Ornish and LEARN, which is the U.S. government's recommendation of a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet. The 77 women in the Atkins group lost an average of 10 pounds -- around twice as much as those on the Ornish and LEARN diets -- while those on the Zone lost an average of 3.5 pounds. The reduction of body mass index, triglycerides and blood pressure in the Atkins group was also higher than among the women of the other groups. These are all indicators of improved health. The head of nutrition and health research at Britain's Medical Research Council, Susan Jebb, told the Sunday Times she believes Atkins is successful because the diet allows high intakes of meat and fat, and thus was easier to follow than more austere regimes. Mothers looking for some way to tackle their children's overweight may be glad to hear of the approval for Atkins. A recent study in the journal Pediatrics suggests childhood obesity that begins as young as 3 years old can result in the early onset of puberty, sometimes as early as 9 years old. Not only are girls who reach puberty earlier than the standard age of 10 or more at greater risk of certain cancers including breast cancer, they are more likely to start drinking alcohol and have sexual intercourse earlier, too. The Atkins diet would allow young girls to eat the kind of food that won't separate them from their peers -- cheeseburgers, for instance, but without the bun. ****************************** http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...868811290.html Locusts hold key to ideal diet Louise Hall March 4, 2007 THE eating habits of locusts and caterpillars might hold the key to discovering the perfect diet, researchers say. At the University of Sydney, obesity experts are conducting a three- year trial that aims to prove people keep eating until they have satisfied their appetite for protein. The study will involve groups of volunteers kept in laboratory conditions for a week at a time and fed carefully manipulated diets. The project's chief investigator, Professor Stephen Simpson, said the study will test his "protein leverage hypothesis" that high-protein diets, such as the CSIRO Total Wellbeing and Atkins, work not because they cut out carbohydrates but because they are high in protein. The theory follows the observation that insects such as locusts move in swarms to areas providing enough protein for their diet. Humans don't move, they eat more. "If you eat a diet with a high proportion of fat and carbohydrates - the typical modern Western diet - you will keep eating until you get the amount of protein the body needs before you feel full," Professor Simpson said. "And that means you will grossly overeat." The researchers will soon begin recruiting volunteers - 24 lean and 24 obese - who will live in a special unit at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital for three periods of one week. Monitored 24 hours a day by research staff, the volunteers will be given a low, medium or high protein diet and the amount they eat and their weight will be measured. "In the week they eat a high-protein diet they should eat fewer calories," co-researcher Professor Ian Caterson said. |
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Eat To Live: Atkins diet back on top
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:35:35 -0500, Diarmid wrote:
http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...-104908-6834r/ By JULIA WATSON UPI Food Writer WASHINGTON, March 5 (UPI) -- A friend getting ready for beach season has just gone back onto the Atkins Diet. How so last century. Hasn't she heard of the Zone? The GI diet? A mutual acquaintance swears by the Ornish regime. Haven't we been there, done Atkins? And wasn't it unhealthy for us, anyway? If we think along either of these lines, we shouldn't. A new Stanford University study finds the Atkins diet is most effective for reducing weight in women. Study leader Christopher Gardner, a professor of medicine at Stanford University's Disease Prevention Research Center in California, told Britain's Sunday Times, "So many people have been asking questions about diets for years. We think it's time to give them some answers." When his study is published this week, it will show of the four regimes under review, the Atkins diet resulted in the greatest weight loss -- with no indication of undesirable side-effects. Launched in 1972 by the late Dr. Robert Atkins with his best-selling book "Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution," the Atkins diet cuts carbohydrates like bread and sugar and boosts consumption of proteins like meat and cheese. The Ornish Diet was devised by a doctor treating heart disease. It advocates eliminating blockages to the heart through a high-fiber, low- fat vegetarian diet that was also found to reduce a patient's weight. This stuff about the Ornish diet is so bad, I'm not sure where to start. The Zone controls the balance of insulin and eicosanoids, neither too much nor too little, by balancing protein and carbohydrates. In this good "zone," fat loss is increased while the risk of cardiovascular disease is decreased. The GI diet is based on specific foods that release glucose in a slow and manageable fashion into the bloodstream. These diets have come into prominence as the Atkins diet lost popularity, mainly due to concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of protective nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some cancers and heart disease. Gardner's study took 311 premenopausal women and divided them into four groups. Each was put onto a different diet for one year: the Atkins, the Zone, the Ornish and LEARN, which is the U.S. government's recommendation of a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet. The 77 women in the Atkins group lost an average of 10 pounds -- around twice as much as those on the Ornish and LEARN diets -- while those on the Zone lost an average of 3.5 pounds. The reduction of body mass index, triglycerides and blood pressure in the Atkins group was also higher than among the women of the other groups. These are all indicators of improved health. The head of nutrition and health research at Britain's Medical Research Council, Susan Jebb, told the Sunday Times she believes Atkins is successful because the diet allows high intakes of meat and fat, and thus was easier to follow than more austere regimes. Mothers looking for some way to tackle their children's overweight may be glad to hear of the approval for Atkins. A recent study in the journal Pediatrics suggests childhood obesity that begins as young as 3 years old can result in the early onset of puberty, sometimes as early as 9 years old. Not only are girls who reach puberty earlier than the standard age of 10 or more at greater risk of certain cancers including breast cancer, they are more likely to start drinking alcohol and have sexual intercourse earlier, too. The Atkins diet would allow young girls to eat the kind of food that won't separate them from their peers -- cheeseburgers, for instance, but without the bun. ****************************** http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...868811290.html Locusts hold key to ideal diet Louise Hall March 4, 2007 THE eating habits of locusts and caterpillars might hold the key to discovering the perfect diet, researchers say. At the University of Sydney, obesity experts are conducting a three- year trial that aims to prove people keep eating until they have satisfied their appetite for protein. The study will involve groups of volunteers kept in laboratory conditions for a week at a time and fed carefully manipulated diets. The project's chief investigator, Professor Stephen Simpson, said the study will test his "protein leverage hypothesis" that high-protein diets, such as the CSIRO Total Wellbeing and Atkins, work not because they cut out carbohydrates but because they are high in protein. The theory follows the observation that insects such as locusts move in swarms to areas providing enough protein for their diet. Humans don't move, they eat more. "If you eat a diet with a high proportion of fat and carbohydrates - the typical modern Western diet - you will keep eating until you get the amount of protein the body needs before you feel full," Professor Simpson said. "And that means you will grossly overeat." The researchers will soon begin recruiting volunteers - 24 lean and 24 obese - who will live in a special unit at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital for three periods of one week. Monitored 24 hours a day by research staff, the volunteers will be given a low, medium or high protein diet and the amount they eat and their weight will be measured. "In the week they eat a high-protein diet they should eat fewer calories," co-researcher Professor Ian Caterson said. And this isn't known? There are tons of studies showing an increase in protein is good. -- Bob in CT |
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Eat To Live: Atkins diet back on top
Oops. I didn't see it was cross posted.
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:50:44 -0500, Bob in CT wrote: On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:35:35 -0500, Diarmid wrote: http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...-104908-6834r/ By JULIA WATSON UPI Food Writer WASHINGTON, March 5 (UPI) -- A friend getting ready for beach season has just gone back onto the Atkins Diet. How so last century. Hasn't she heard of the Zone? The GI diet? A mutual acquaintance swears by the Ornish regime. Haven't we been there, done Atkins? And wasn't it unhealthy for us, anyway? If we think along either of these lines, we shouldn't. A new Stanford University study finds the Atkins diet is most effective for reducing weight in women. Study leader Christopher Gardner, a professor of medicine at Stanford University's Disease Prevention Research Center in California, told Britain's Sunday Times, "So many people have been asking questions about diets for years. We think it's time to give them some answers." When his study is published this week, it will show of the four regimes under review, the Atkins diet resulted in the greatest weight loss -- with no indication of undesirable side-effects. Launched in 1972 by the late Dr. Robert Atkins with his best-selling book "Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution," the Atkins diet cuts carbohydrates like bread and sugar and boosts consumption of proteins like meat and cheese. The Ornish Diet was devised by a doctor treating heart disease. It advocates eliminating blockages to the heart through a high-fiber, low- fat vegetarian diet that was also found to reduce a patient's weight. This stuff about the Ornish diet is so bad, I'm not sure where to start. The Zone controls the balance of insulin and eicosanoids, neither too much nor too little, by balancing protein and carbohydrates. In this good "zone," fat loss is increased while the risk of cardiovascular disease is decreased. The GI diet is based on specific foods that release glucose in a slow and manageable fashion into the bloodstream. These diets have come into prominence as the Atkins diet lost popularity, mainly due to concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of protective nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some cancers and heart disease. Gardner's study took 311 premenopausal women and divided them into four groups. Each was put onto a different diet for one year: the Atkins, the Zone, the Ornish and LEARN, which is the U.S. government's recommendation of a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet. The 77 women in the Atkins group lost an average of 10 pounds -- around twice as much as those on the Ornish and LEARN diets -- while those on the Zone lost an average of 3.5 pounds. The reduction of body mass index, triglycerides and blood pressure in the Atkins group was also higher than among the women of the other groups. These are all indicators of improved health. The head of nutrition and health research at Britain's Medical Research Council, Susan Jebb, told the Sunday Times she believes Atkins is successful because the diet allows high intakes of meat and fat, and thus was easier to follow than more austere regimes. Mothers looking for some way to tackle their children's overweight may be glad to hear of the approval for Atkins. A recent study in the journal Pediatrics suggests childhood obesity that begins as young as 3 years old can result in the early onset of puberty, sometimes as early as 9 years old. Not only are girls who reach puberty earlier than the standard age of 10 or more at greater risk of certain cancers including breast cancer, they are more likely to start drinking alcohol and have sexual intercourse earlier, too. The Atkins diet would allow young girls to eat the kind of food that won't separate them from their peers -- cheeseburgers, for instance, but without the bun. ****************************** http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...868811290.html Locusts hold key to ideal diet Louise Hall March 4, 2007 THE eating habits of locusts and caterpillars might hold the key to discovering the perfect diet, researchers say. At the University of Sydney, obesity experts are conducting a three- year trial that aims to prove people keep eating until they have satisfied their appetite for protein. The study will involve groups of volunteers kept in laboratory conditions for a week at a time and fed carefully manipulated diets. The project's chief investigator, Professor Stephen Simpson, said the study will test his "protein leverage hypothesis" that high-protein diets, such as the CSIRO Total Wellbeing and Atkins, work not because they cut out carbohydrates but because they are high in protein. The theory follows the observation that insects such as locusts move in swarms to areas providing enough protein for their diet. Humans don't move, they eat more. "If you eat a diet with a high proportion of fat and carbohydrates - the typical modern Western diet - you will keep eating until you get the amount of protein the body needs before you feel full," Professor Simpson said. "And that means you will grossly overeat." The researchers will soon begin recruiting volunteers - 24 lean and 24 obese - who will live in a special unit at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital for three periods of one week. Monitored 24 hours a day by research staff, the volunteers will be given a low, medium or high protein diet and the amount they eat and their weight will be measured. "In the week they eat a high-protein diet they should eat fewer calories," co-researcher Professor Ian Caterson said. And this isn't known? There are tons of studies showing an increase in protein is good. -- Bob in CT |
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Diarmid wrote:
.. :: :: The head of nutrition and health research at Britain's Medical :: Research Council, Susan Jebb, Isn't she on record are being anti-Atkins? |
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Eat To Live: Atkins diet back on top
"Diarmid" quoted:
http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...ns_diet_back_o... By JULIA WATSON UPI Food Writer If we think along either of these lines, we shouldn't. A new Stanford University study finds the Atkins diet is most effective for reducing weight in women. Another short term study. Nice. Time for longer term ones please. Launched in 1972 by the late Dr. Robert Atkins with his best-selling book "Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution," the Atkins diet cuts carbohydrates like bread and sugar and boosts consumption of proteins like meat and cheese. ... These diets have come into prominence as the Atkins diet lost popularity, mainly due to concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of protective nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some cancers and heart disease. Just once I want to read about a study that's actually about doing what the directions say for Atkins and not this made up crap about eliminating veggies and such! |
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Bob in CT wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:35:35 -0500, Diarmid wrote: http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...-104908-6834r/ By JULIA WATSON UPI Food Writer WASHINGTON, March 5 (UPI) -- A friend getting ready for beach season has just gone back onto the Atkins Diet. How so last century. Hasn't she heard of the Zone? The GI diet? A mutual acquaintance swears by the Ornish regime. Haven't we been there, done Atkins? And wasn't it unhealthy for us, anyway? SNIP SMIP Gardner's study took 311 premenopausal women and divided them into four groups. Each was put onto a different diet for one year: the Atkins, the Zone, the Ornish and LEARN, which is the U.S. government's recommendation of a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet. The 77 women in the Atkins group lost an average of 10 pounds -- around twice as much as those on the Ornish and LEARN diets -- while those on the Zone lost an average of 3.5 pounds. The reduction of body mass index, triglycerides and blood pressure in the Atkins group was also higher than among the women of the other groups. These are all indicators of improved health. The head of nutrition and health research at Britain's Medical Research Council, Susan Jebb, told the Sunday Times she believes Atkins is successful because the diet allows high intakes of meat and fat, and thus was easier to follow than more austere regimes. SNIP SNIP ****************************** http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...868811290.html Locusts hold key to ideal diet Louise Hall March 4, 2007 THE eating habits of locusts and caterpillars might hold the key to discovering the perfect diet, researchers say. At the University of Sydney, obesity experts are conducting a three- year trial that aims to prove people keep eating until they have satisfied their appetite for protein. The study will involve groups of volunteers kept in laboratory conditions for a week at a time and fed carefully manipulated diets. The project's chief investigator, Professor Stephen Simpson, said the study will test his "protein leverage hypothesis" that high-protein diets, such as the CSIRO Total Wellbeing and Atkins, work not because they cut out carbohydrates but because they are high in protein. The theory follows the observation that insects such as locusts move in swarms to areas providing enough protein for their diet. Humans don't move, they eat more. "If you eat a diet with a high proportion of fat and carbohydrates - the typical modern Western diet - you will keep eating until you get the amount of protein the body needs before you feel full," Professor Simpson said. "And that means you will grossly overeat." The researchers will soon begin recruiting volunteers - 24 lean and 24 obese - who will live in a special unit at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital for three periods of one week. Monitored 24 hours a day by research staff, the volunteers will be given a low, medium or high protein diet and the amount they eat and their weight will be measured. "In the week they eat a high-protein diet they should eat fewer calories," co-researcher Professor Ian Caterson said. And this isn't known? There are tons of studies showing an increase in protein is good. The issue of protein being good or not so good isn't the issue at all. The evident issue is that PROTEIN IS AN APPETITE REGULATOR. They drew the inference from protein consumption behaviors in insects MOVE TO WHERE THERE IS MORE PROTEIN, and a statement about protein consumption behavior in humans. EAT MORE WHERE YOU ARE. It isn't about protein being "good" at all, but about consumption patterns. Supposedly, one is to tie the first story on the evident superiority of the Atkins diet to the second study on the consumption of protein as an appetite regulator. Thus, you presumably have better appetite control with a "Atkins/Protein" diet and you have better weight loss. |
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Doug Freyburger wrote:
"Diarmid" quoted: http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...ns_diet_back_o... By JULIA WATSON UPI Food Writer If we think along either of these lines, we shouldn't. A new Stanford University study finds the Atkins diet is most effective for reducing weight in women. Another short term study. Nice. Time for longer term ones please. Launched in 1972 by the late Dr. Robert Atkins with his best-selling book "Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution," the Atkins diet cuts carbohydrates like bread and sugar and boosts consumption of proteins like meat and cheese. ... These diets have come into prominence as the Atkins diet lost popularity, mainly due to concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of protective nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some cancers and heart disease. Just once I want to read about a study that's actually about doing what the directions say for Atkins and not this made up crap about eliminating veggies and such! What about the "disruptive" concerns of nutritionists..... concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of protective nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some cancers and heart disease. There probably never were any such "studies" as indicated above, but rather repeated expressions of opinions and opinions that somehow, this has got to be bad ..... |
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"Doug Freyburger" wrote in part:
"Diarmid" quoted: http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...ns_diet_back_o... By JULIA WATSON UPI Food Writer If we think along either of these lines, we shouldn't. A new Stanford University study finds the Atkins diet is most effective for reducing weight in women. Another short term study. Nice. Time for longer term ones please. Launched in 1972 by the late Dr. Robert Atkins with his best-selling book "Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution," the Atkins diet cuts carbohydrates like bread and sugar and boosts consumption of proteins like meat and cheese. ... These diets have come into prominence as the Atkins diet lost popularity, mainly due to concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of protective nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some cancers and heart disease. Just once I want to read about a study that's actually about doing what the directions say for Atkins and not this made up crap about eliminating veggies and such! Ain't it the truth. -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA |
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Jbuch wrote:
::: And this isn't known? There are tons of studies showing an ::: increase in protein is good. ::: :: :: The issue of protein being good or not so good isn't the issue at :: all. I know people who still say "All that protein isn't good for you." What about that Special K Protein Water and the conversation here? :: :: The evident issue is that PROTEIN IS AN APPETITE REGULATOR. :: Actually, I'm willing to bet that's what Bob meant. :: They drew the inference from protein consumption behaviors in insects :: MOVE TO WHERE THERE IS MORE PROTEIN, and a statement about protein :: consumption behavior in humans. EAT MORE WHERE YOU ARE. :: :: It isn't about protein being "good" at all, but about consumption :: patterns. :: We like to eat until we get enough protein! Protein Power! :: Supposedly, one is to tie the first story on the evident superiority :: of the Atkins diet to the second study on the consumption of protein :: as an appetite regulator. :: :: Thus, you presumably have better appetite control with a :: "Atkins/Protein" diet and you have better weight loss. And many of us think Atkins is high fat, not high protein. But many of us probably get sufficient protein trying to get enough fat, so that Atkins works by accident (or so they would say). Has anyone else noticed that both carbs and fat (taken separately) make protein take good? Eat something that's mostly protein and it tastes like YUCK. Put some carb in the mix, or some fat in the mix, and protein is good. But put carbs and fat in there and you get something that is generally deadly, since it tends to get overconsumed. |
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Jbuch wrote:
:: Doug Freyburger wrote: ::: ::: Just once I want to read about a study that's actually about doing ::: what the directions say for Atkins and not this made up crap about ::: eliminating veggies and such! ::: :: :: :: What about the "disruptive" concerns of nutritionists..... ::: concerns from nutritionists. Cutting out ::::: carbohydrates by eliminating fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains and ::::: cereal, might, some studies claimed, deprive the body of ::::: protective nutrients and lead to a risk of osteoporosis, some ::::: cancers and heart disease. :: :: :: There probably never were any such "studies" as indicated above, but :: rather repeated expressions of opinions and opinions that somehow, :: this has got to be bad ..... No doubt. People express opinions about mere notions, like what some few people supposedly do or might do when they "hear" how some woman lost 50 lbs on Atkins, just eating nothing but bacon and cheese. |
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