Weight loss per week

Ilene Bilenky wrote:
In article ,
Chris Braun wrote:

But I would start the same
day eating and exercising as I do now with hope that I would
eventually achieve the same result.

A co-worker of mine had a highest weight around 300 lbs. She got gastric
bypass surgery 1 1/2 years ago, and reportedly went from about 275 to
175. I just saw her after a long time, and she looked well. I asked her
how it felt to be a health(ier) weight, after stuggling for so many
years with weight and food, etc. She said she's been "eating too much"
and fears gaining it back. She said kind of sadly that she likes being
able to breathe better, but that she feels she's eating in the same
mindset that got her fat, but just can't do it as fast or as much. I
think she might gain it back if she can't get her mindset in healthy
order.

A co-worker of mine had weight loss surgery about 15 years ago. She
managed to go from 275 to 120 but never learned to change her eating
habits. Immediately after the surgery she ate a decent diet but
gradually she went back to her old style of eating. She was popping
M&M's, sipping on shakes, etc. She never exercised before or after the
surgery. I saw her about a year ago and I would estimate her weight is
in the 275-300 range again.

Beverly wrote:
Ilene Bilenky wrote:

In article ,
Chris Braun wrote:


But I would start the same
day eating and exercising as I do now with hope that I would
eventually achieve the same result.

A co-worker of mine had a highest weight around 300 lbs. She got gastric
bypass surgery 1 1/2 years ago, and reportedly went from about 275 to
175. I just saw her after a long time, and she looked well. I asked her
how it felt to be a health(ier) weight, after stuggling for so many
years with weight and food, etc. She said she's been "eating too much"
and fears gaining it back. She said kind of sadly that she likes being
able to breathe better, but that she feels she's eating in the same
mindset that got her fat, but just can't do it as fast or as much. I
think she might gain it back if she can't get her mindset in healthy
order.


A co-worker of mine had weight loss surgery about 15 years ago. She
managed to go from 275 to 120 but never learned to change her eating
habits. Immediately after the surgery she ate a decent diet but
gradually she went back to her old style of eating. She was popping
M&M's, sipping on shakes, etc. She never exercised before or after the
surgery. I saw her about a year ago and I would estimate her weight is
in the 275-300 range again.


How sad.

--
jmk in NC

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:18:13 -0400, jmk wrote:

Beverly wrote:
Ilene Bilenky wrote:

In article ,
Chris Braun wrote:


But I would start the same
day eating and exercising as I do now with hope that I would
eventually achieve the same result.

A co-worker of mine had a highest weight around 300 lbs. She got gastric
bypass surgery 1 1/2 years ago, and reportedly went from about 275 to
175. I just saw her after a long time, and she looked well. I asked her
how it felt to be a health(ier) weight, after stuggling for so many
years with weight and food, etc. She said she's been "eating too much"
and fears gaining it back. She said kind of sadly that she likes being
able to breathe better, but that she feels she's eating in the same
mindset that got her fat, but just can't do it as fast or as much. I
think she might gain it back if she can't get her mindset in healthy
order.


A co-worker of mine had weight loss surgery about 15 years ago. She
managed to go from 275 to 120 but never learned to change her eating
habits. Immediately after the surgery she ate a decent diet but
gradually she went back to her old style of eating. She was popping
M&M's, sipping on shakes, etc. She never exercised before or after the
surgery. I saw her about a year ago and I would estimate her weight is
in the 275-300 range again.


How sad.

Yeah, it really is. Imagine going through all that, and subjecting
your body to all that trauma, and then gaining it back. I expect
that's a lot harder on your body than just staying heavy would have
been.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

"Chris Braun" wrote in message
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:18:13 -0400, jmk wrote:

Beverly wrote:
Ilene Bilenky wrote:

In article ,
Chris Braun wrote:


But I would start the same
day eating and exercising as I do now with hope that I would
eventually achieve the same result.

A co-worker of mine had a highest weight around 300 lbs. She got gastric
bypass surgery 1 1/2 years ago, and reportedly went from about 275 to
175. I just saw her after a long time, and she looked well. I asked her
how it felt to be a health(ier) weight, after stuggling for so many
years with weight and food, etc. She said she's been "eating too much"
and fears gaining it back. She said kind of sadly that she likes being
able to breathe better, but that she feels she's eating in the same
mindset that got her fat, but just can't do it as fast or as much. I
think she might gain it back if she can't get her mindset in healthy
order.


A co-worker of mine had weight loss surgery about 15 years ago. She
managed to go from 275 to 120 but never learned to change her eating
habits. Immediately after the surgery she ate a decent diet but
gradually she went back to her old style of eating. She was popping
M&M's, sipping on shakes, etc. She never exercised before or after the
surgery. I saw her about a year ago and I would estimate her weight is
in the 275-300 range again.


How sad.

Yeah, it really is. Imagine going through all that, and subjecting
your body to all that trauma, and then gaining it back. I expect
that's a lot harder on your body than just staying heavy would have
been.

That is a lot for the body to go through. IIRC, Christina Onassis died
rather young primarily from complications of her tremendous weight swings
through her adult life.
--
the volleyballchick

I would go with a monthly weighin. I hear doing it daily or even
weekly can cause people to get discouraged by the fluctuation or of
weight loss bottoms out for a little.

"Nunya B." wrote:

"Ignoramus23305" wrote in message
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On 16 Aug 2005 14:48:04 -0700, Doug Freyburger wrote:
Ignoramus23305 wrote:

I would rather be "anal" (as Annie put it) and "frustrated" (due to
setting ambitious goals) than fat.

You say that as if they are mutually exclusive as in one can only be anal
*or* fat. One can be anal without being condescending. One can also be
anal and plump, anal and fat, anal and a decent human being. Take your
choice.

The way I really think of it now, "anal" is an easier to spell
version of the word "conscientious", at least in regards to my new WOE.
Of course, the a word sounds much more negative than the c word. It
makes much more sense to say to oneself "I don't want to weigh my food
because that's so anal!" than to use the word conscientious in that
sentence. I do know that when tell my coworkers that I am weighing out
my food, they give me looks that suggest they are thinking in terms of
the more negative word.

And yeah, whether one is anal or conscientious, really has no bearing
no how nice of a person they might be.

--

Annie

As of 8-19-05: 258/213.5/140 Standing at 5 foot 4.

..5 pound loss from 8-12-05.

44.5 pounds lost. 73.5 left to go. Started February/07/05

Come visit my weight-loss web site, Annie Takes Off.
http://webpages.charter.net/lenny13/DietFrontPage.html

"Annie Benson Lennaman" wrote in
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"Nunya B." wrote:

"Ignoramus23305" wrote in message
...
On 16 Aug 2005 14:48:04 -0700, Doug Freyburger
wrote:
Ignoramus23305 wrote:

I would rather be "anal" (as Annie put it) and "frustrated" (due to
setting ambitious goals) than fat.

You say that as if they are mutually exclusive as in one can only be anal
*or* fat. One can be anal without being condescending. One can also be
anal and plump, anal and fat, anal and a decent human being. Take your
choice.

The way I really think of it now, "anal" is an easier to spell
version of the word "conscientious", at least in regards to my new WOE.
Of course, the a word sounds much more negative than the c word. It
makes much more sense to say to oneself "I don't want to weigh my food
because that's so anal!" than to use the word conscientious in that
sentence. I do know that when tell my coworkers that I am weighing out
my food, they give me looks that suggest they are thinking in terms of
the more negative word.

And yeah, whether one is anal or conscientious, really has no bearing
no how nice of a person they might be.

I weigh my food. I also keep a food journal. I think a person can be
conscientious without being anal. They're really not the same thing. Also,
a person who is not anal is not necessarily a completely disorganized slob.

http://www.answers.com/conscientious
characterized by extreme care and great effort

http://www.answers.com/anal%20retentive
A person characterized as anal retentive is perceived to be worrying too
much about "nit-picking" little details of form, style and etiquette or
otherwise being overly uptight or distressed over ordinarily minor problems.

I believe that I've been able to snip without changing the context of the
information.

There is nothing wrong with being anal retentive for most people. It's when
they attempt to belittle others who don't fit into their tiny little view of
what is right and wrong in the world that it becomes a problem for others.
Simply put, be as neurotic as it takes to make you happy, just keep it on
your side of the fence. (not you personally, Annie, it's the general
"you").
--
the volleyballchick
has many wonderful anal retentive friends

"Ignoramus15893" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:51:52 -0500, Annie Benson Lennaman
wrote:


"Nunya B." wrote:

"Ignoramus23305" wrote in message
...
On 16 Aug 2005 14:48:04 -0700, Doug Freyburger
wrote:
Ignoramus23305 wrote:

I would rather be "anal" (as Annie put it) and "frustrated" (due to
setting ambitious goals) than fat.

You say that as if they are mutually exclusive as in one can only be
anal
*or* fat. One can be anal without being condescending. One can also be
anal and plump, anal and fat, anal and a decent human being. Take your
choice.

The way I really think of it now, "anal" is an easier to spell
version of the word "conscientious", at least in regards to my new WOE.
Of course, the a word sounds much more negative than the c word. It
makes much more sense to say to oneself "I don't want to weigh my food
because that's so anal!" than to use the word conscientious in that
sentence. I do know that when tell my coworkers that I am weighing out
my food, they give me looks that suggest they are thinking in terms of
the more negative word.

And yeah, whether one is anal or conscientious, really has no bearing
no how nice of a person they might be.


I like to express behaviors in less pleasing terms, because this way
there is no implicit approval of them through language. That makes for
less decision making biases. Deborah Tannen wrote several popular
books explaining how use of certain words and expressions and manner
of speaking influences human perception. Very interesting reading.

If you are going to do that, you need to make sure the words you use are
actually words that can be interchanged. The english language is full of
subtle nuance that simply because of the perceptions of which you describe
are very easily misinterpreted. If you want the world to think you're an
abrasive asshole, then so be it. If you want your message to be taken
seriously then you need to use language that isn't going to turn off your
audience by the end of the first sentence. Your message is useless if the
audience isn't getting it.
--
the volleyballchick

Annie,

I saw your stats down the bottom - congratulations! Very impressive. Without reading all the posts in here, how exactly did you do it? I have tried Weight Watchers and I starved. It was helpful though because I became more conscious of what I ate. But I couldn't handle it for more than a few weeks. I recently have been using Isagenix (i think I linked it correctly). You do really lose weight fast, but you hav eto be committed to the program. They suggest using it 9 days EVERY month. I guess to lose weight, avoid burnout, and then keep it going every month thereafter. I'm only about 10lbs down on it so far (day 6), but will let you kow. Or if you've used it before please let me know your experience.

Cindy

"Annie Benson Lennaman" wrote in message . ..


"Nunya B." wrote:

"Ignoramus23305" wrote in message
...
On 16 Aug 2005 14:48:04 -0700, Doug Freyburger wrote:
Ignoramus23305 wrote:

I would rather be "anal" (as Annie put it) and "frustrated" (due to
setting ambitious goals) than fat.

You say that as if they are mutually exclusive as in one can only be anal
*or* fat. One can be anal without being condescending. One can also be
anal and plump, anal and fat, anal and a decent human being. Take your
choice.

The way I really think of it now, "anal" is an easier to spell
version of the word "conscientious", at least in regards to my new WOE.
Of course, the a word sounds much more negative than the c word. It
makes much more sense to say to oneself "I don't want to weigh my food
because that's so anal!" than to use the word conscientious in that
sentence. I do know that when tell my coworkers that I am weighing out
my food, they give me looks that suggest they are thinking in terms of
the more negative word.

And yeah, whether one is anal or conscientious, really has no bearing
no how nice of a person they might be.

--

Annie

As of 8-19-05: 258/213.5/140 Standing at 5 foot 4.

.5 pound loss from 8-12-05.

44.5 pounds lost. 73.5 left to go. Started February/07/05

Come visit my weight-loss web site, Annie Takes Off.
http://webpages.charter.net/lenny13/DietFrontPage.html

Cindy Worskendt wrote:

Annie,

I saw your stats down the bottom - congratulations! Very impressive.
Without reading all the posts in here, how exactly did you do it? I have
tried Weight Watchers and I starved. It was helpful though because I
became more conscious of what I ate. But I couldn't handle it for more
than a few weeks. I recently have been using Isagenix
http://discounts.isagenix.com (i think I linked it correctly). You do
really lose weight fast, but you hav eto be committed to the program.
They suggest using it 9 days EVERY month. I guess to lose weight, avoid
burnout, and then keep it going every month thereafter. I'm only about
10lbs down on it so far (day 6), but will let you kow. Or if you've used
it before please let me know your experience.

Cindy

You don't need overpriced scams. The only thing that'll lighten is your
wallet. It will make you unhealthy, not healthy. Buying Isagenix just
marks you as a patsy for all sorts of frauds. Beware!

Dally
244/164/155