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Old June 6th, 2006, 06:58 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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I saw one of the neighbors today while I was walking the dog. She
noticed my weight loss, complimented me & asked me how I did it. So I
told her: I ate less food and that, at least five days a week, I walk
for thirty minutes or more. "No pills?" She asked. Nope. "Did you have
that surgery where they tie your stomach?" Nope. "Ummm... what pills
did you take?" None. "Did the doctor give you a prescription for
medicine?" No. "Did you have that surgery?"

Anyway, she wouldn't let it go. She wants to lose thirty pounds
herself, and she says that her son is really overweight and she wants
him to lose weight too. She came up with about fifty different ways to
ask the same damn question of "what magic trick did you use?"

She's the third person in three days who has really pushed for
information and was not able to accept the truth. They're in denial, I
guess.

Would have been the perfect opportunity to sell 'em some snake oil.

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Old June 6th, 2006, 12:39 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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mike90732 wrote:
I saw one of the neighbors today while I was walking the dog. She
noticed my weight loss, complimented me & asked me how I did it. So I
told her: I ate less food and that, at least five days a week, I walk
for thirty minutes or more. "No pills?" She asked. Nope. "Did you have
that surgery where they tie your stomach?" Nope. "Ummm... what pills
did you take?" None. "Did the doctor give you a prescription for
medicine?" No. "Did you have that surgery?"



Heh, funny story.

I know I might know this if I was paying more attention, but does your
current WOE involve careful monitoring? I think that's the element I've
missed out on over the past few years. People like this woman here mantras
like "eat less, move more" and they think "oh I can do that" and they do,
kind of, for a while, off and on.... but it ends up in frustration, and in
the end a disbelief that eating less and exercising can actually lead to
qualitative bodily change.

So for me, I'm hoping that "paying close attention" can be the "magic
bullet" of which she was speaking...

Kirk, 227/221/180

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Old June 6th, 2006, 01:36 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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"Kirk Is" wrote in message
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Heh, funny story.

I know I might know this if I was paying more attention, but does your
current WOE involve careful monitoring? I think that's the element I've
missed out on over the past few years. People like this woman here mantras
like "eat less, move more" and they think "oh I can do that" and they do,
kind of, for a while, off and on.... but it ends up in frustration, and in
the end a disbelief that eating less and exercising can actually lead to
qualitative bodily change.

So for me, I'm hoping that "paying close attention" can be the "magic
bullet" of which she was speaking...

Kirk, 227/221/180


You may be on to something. :-)

Like many (most?) serious dieters, at first my weight came off very easily.
However, the closer I got to goal, the losses slowed down dramatically (and
disappeared, some weeks).

I finally broke down and bought myself a nutritional scale after being very
resistant to the idea (basically thought it would just be too much trouble).
Well, that was the key to being able to finally get off the plateau I had
been on for weeks. I was amazed at how drastically I had been
underestimating portion sizes and caloric content.

Obviously, portion control has never been one of my strong suits. ;-) I'm
hoping that with continued use of the scale I will train myself to practice
more realistic portion control. The scale doesn't lie!

Jane
235/137/127


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Old June 6th, 2006, 01:56 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 08:36:57 -0400, "babeone"
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"Kirk Is" wrote in message
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Heh, funny story.

I know I might know this if I was paying more attention, but does your
current WOE involve careful monitoring? I think that's the element I've
missed out on over the past few years. People like this woman here mantras
like "eat less, move more" and they think "oh I can do that" and they do,
kind of, for a while, off and on.... but it ends up in frustration, and in
the end a disbelief that eating less and exercising can actually lead to
qualitative bodily change.

So for me, I'm hoping that "paying close attention" can be the "magic
bullet" of which she was speaking...

Kirk, 227/221/180


You may be on to something. :-)

Like many (most?) serious dieters, at first my weight came off very easily.
However, the closer I got to goal, the losses slowed down dramatically (and
disappeared, some weeks).

I finally broke down and bought myself a nutritional scale after being very
resistant to the idea (basically thought it would just be too much trouble).
Well, that was the key to being able to finally get off the plateau I had
been on for weeks. I was amazed at how drastically I had been
underestimating portion sizes and caloric content.

Obviously, portion control has never been one of my strong suits. ;-) I'm
hoping that with continued use of the scale I will train myself to practice
more realistic portion control. The scale doesn't lie!

Jane
235/137/127


That's really why I still keep weighing and measuring. Once before,
about 7-8 years ago, I lost a fair bit of weight, but I just
completely plateaued at around 200 lbs. I wasn't counting calories,
just "eating right", and I think I just got to a point where I was
eating enough to maintain that weight. But not counting calories, I
never really knew how much I was eating. And then I had some
stressful things happen in my life and got sick and had to stop
exercising for a while, and after that I let the eating creep up
gradually -- still eating mostly healthy stuff -- and my weight went
right back up. So now I feel like I want to keep monitoring it, at
least for the forseeable future.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
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Old June 6th, 2006, 05:06 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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mike90732 wrote:


She's the third person in three days who has really pushed for
information and was not able to accept the truth. They're in denial, I
guess.



Denial is HUGE!! I've seen it in my life as well. Everything from "I
don't have time to exercise" (when the person doesn't work at all and
has plenty of time) and "I can lose weight just doing that popular
low-carb thing" (then they don't follow it as you're supposed to and
wonder why they aren't losing).

People just have to come to the conclusion that it's simple math. Less
in, more out. Basic. Whether or not they ever get that is up to them.

Having lost 52.5 pounds now, I'm having the same experience. Everyone
wants the magic bullet. There just isn't one.

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Old June 6th, 2006, 06:23 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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"mike90732" wrote in message
oups.com...
I saw one of the neighbors today while I was walking the dog. She
noticed my weight loss, complimented me & asked me how I did it. So I
told her: I ate less food and that, at least five days a week, I walk
for thirty minutes or more. "No pills?" She asked. Nope. "Did you have
that surgery where they tie your stomach?" Nope. "Ummm... what pills
did you take?" None. "Did the doctor give you a prescription for
medicine?" No. "Did you have that surgery?"

Anyway, she wouldn't let it go. She wants to lose thirty pounds
herself, and she says that her son is really overweight and she wants
him to lose weight too. She came up with about fifty different ways to
ask the same damn question of "what magic trick did you use?"

She's the third person in three days who has really pushed for
information and was not able to accept the truth. They're in denial, I
guess.

Would have been the perfect opportunity to sell 'em some snake oil.


People are f***ing lazy... I had overweight friends and relatives who hated
that I was losing weight. They would complain about their weight, as they
were sipping on a 1200 calorie starbuck's frappacino, and talk about how
they had no time for exercise. The way to truly lose weight is not
something that appeals to many people in this day and age. You can't do it
by sitting on your ass all day, it does actually require sweat and effort.
--
OregonChick
138/136.8/125



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Old June 6th, 2006, 07:58 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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The woman across the street does the exact same thing. About once a
month she comments on my weight loss, then asks me to explain the
whole WW Core Plan....again.

And then admits that she couldn't give up her junk food.

Fine...enjoy your junk food. And your insulin shots.
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Old June 6th, 2006, 08:30 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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oregonchick wrote:


People are f***ing lazy... I had overweight friends and relatives who hated
that I was losing weight. They would complain about their weight, as they
were sipping on a 1200 calorie starbuck's frappacino, and talk about how
they had no time for exercise.



I had the same experience oregonchick! I can't tell you how many times
I've heard that "if I had time to exercise like you do..." Please. I'm
not currently working right now so yeah, I've got more time in the day
than the average person, but you know what? I exercised when I was
working full-time too. It's a matter of priorities and MAKING the time.

Plus, I'm not sure what these people are considering exercise. It's like
they believe they have to get a trainer and be in the gym 24/7. Well,
no. You can start slowly and just walk around the block at a good pace
every day or whatever. One of the people I heard the no time excuse from
has a treadmill in her house!! Hello!! Use that. Excuses, excuses...

something that appeals to many people in this day and age. You can't do it
by sitting on your ass all day, it does actually require sweat and effort.



Couldn't have said it better.



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Old June 6th, 2006, 08:59 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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Sinequanon wrote:
Fine...enjoy your junk food. And your insulin shots.


No kidding! This is the problem that a lot of people don't want to face:
you want to enjoy your junk food, you can "enjoy" the medical maladies
that come with it most notably diabetes, which can be a real bitch in
terms of wrecking havoc on your body. Seriously people, that doughnut
just ain't worth it.


Well, don't get it wrong: i think the most current belief is that it's not
what you eat in and of itself, it's the high correlation between
consistently poor food choices and obesity.

Not to preach, because I know I'm in no way immune or above this, it's the
entitlement culture we're all soaking in.

People feel that they "deserve" that daily treat, or two, or three, even
if they have no evidence of having instincts that would let them
compensate for that kind of indulgence, and aren't willing to monitor
closely like I am now. (Which is the theme of the Hacker's Diet)

Funny thing is, same goes for consumer goods, and houses, etc. People get
so exposed to the "good life" through the media, and easy credit is so
widely available, that people just spend and spend and have no concept of
living within their means, and get a bigger better house than they
actually need, and other big ticket luxuries.

(Feh, not that I've been good at saving lately (though I'm out of debt and
have some money kicking around)-- actually, budgeting of money is an
interesting mirror of the budgeting of calories that I'm doing now, and I
should probably consider a similar approach, studying what money goes out
as closely as I study what food is coming in...)

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it's tough to get up a really sincere-sounding round of cheers when
I've come up with a plan I think is worth cheering." --Maximus, X-Factor
 




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