Gastric Bypass

thx for the welcome, Gary. I've tried all kinds of diets too and WW is the
only one I've succeeded at. I guess I need to take the plunge and go to
meetings instead of at home alone trying to do it.

Debbie


"I started at 291 and I'm 5'8''...I've lost 69 lbs since December
21,..2005...I was at one time 333 lbs...I have tried every diet you can
imagine...For me it's been a lifetime of weight issues...I honestly don't
know why I seem to have gotten a handle on it...It is my first attempt at
WW...I don't believe that WW is any miracle...It teaches control and helps
me to better understand my problems...Although I sometimes find the
meetings rather hokey I truly look forward to them...Being able to talk to
others who suffer from weight issues is helpful...Welcome aboard...GG

thx Lesanne. LOL. Just looking at what some of those ppl said they had to eat sounded like a deprivation diet to me! I don't want to not be able to eat *sweets* ever again. And they kept saying something about they couldn't have sugar either. I remember you from before, Lesanne. So you're not hungry and in a constant crappy mood cause you've cut so far back on your food intake? I think I could lose down to 160 without a problem, but I'd really like to be in the 130 range. So that's like 74 pds. I have only been at 130 a coupla times in my life (once during a divorce, and once when a teenager and once with diet pills and exercise), so I don't have a lot of confidence I can do it and sustain it. I think I can do it, just sustaining it is my worry.

Thanks again for examples. That's what I wanted to hear.


Debbie

Debbie:
I will go you one better than that and tell you what I have seen personally with gastric bypass. The most recent example was a woman who has been a dear friend of mine for years. She has battled her weight for as long as I have known her. The selling point for GBS as opposed to general lifestyle change is that it supposedly reduces the hunger people feel, and increases the feeling of fullness people get after eating smaller portions of food.
If a person is eating when they are not hungry already, this is not an advantage if you think about it logically. If you are overeating, you are almost certainly eating when not physiologically hungry. GBS is like cutting off both your hands to quit smoking. It is only effective if it stops the smoking long enough for a person to get over the bad cravings before they figure out how to smoke using their feet. If you remove the ability to overeat from a person who eats for emotional reasons, that person can either deal with the emotional reasons or find other ways to overeat. My friend is sucking on some high calorie drink or other all the time, has lost a total of about 30 pounds in the last year, and is still morbidly obese. The other two people I personally know who had GBS ? One is an alcoholic (thin and very very sick) the other is near a normal weight and has gone through some major lifestyle change and therapy similar to what I did to lose the 200 pounds I lost WITHOUT surgery. He eats pretty much like I do. I would suggest getting the diet you will have to follow after the surgery and going on that for a while. It is what you will have to do anyway. Then after four or five months on that decide if you want to permanently damage your body. I also suggest you get help with whatever it is that causes you to reach for food when you are not hungry. I know, I am not asking you to do something "easy". Those people pushing GBS aren't either, they are just salespeople.

--
Les

I remember you. Congratulations! Unbelievable!!! And there was another woman in here who had lost a lot (besides Volleyballchick, WTG chick!). Elaine was her name....

Debbie
"lesanne" wrote in message ...
I have lost 200 and kept it off for nearly three years.

Part of the reason I'm scared to anything is going under and maybe getting a
clot. LOL. I'm not gonna do it. Thanks anyway.

Debbie


I have an article in this months Slimming & Health mag (from Australia)
talking about Lap-banding the stomach.

Apparently safer than the old stomach stapling etc and reversible with
less physical trauma than of yore.

Still risk factors apply, the stomach by its very nature is an extremely
vascular organ, not to be messed with!

If you want me to scan the article and post it somewhere I would be happy
to.



"Debbie" wrote in message
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Hi All,
I have been reading this group for a coupla years and only posted a few
times.

I was wondering if you could *kindly* tell me what you have heard about
Gastric Bypass.

This is not a flame or bash against WW -- just curious.

Thanks, Debbie

Hi Debbie............it scares the hell out of me!

enough said.........

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-289.6lbs
Loss to date=69.4lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs

"Debbie" wrote in message
news:rEyAg.10294$j9.3379@trnddc02...
Hi All,
I have been reading this group for a coupla years and only posted a few
times.

I was wondering if you could *kindly* tell me what you have heard about
Gastric Bypass.

This is not a flame or bash against WW -- just curious.

Thanks, Debbie

LOL. Me too, Eddie!

Debbie


" Hi Debbie............it scares the hell out of me!

enough said.........

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-289.6lbs
Loss to date=69.4lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs

"Debbie" wrote in message
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Thanks Gary.

I was debating it, but after getting on the web and seeing some of the
risks, I'm not so sure I shouldn't give WW a decent try. I've lost 30-40
pds on WW at home a coupla times by myself, but always put it back on.

I'm 5"5" and 205 pds. I was wondering if over time these gastric ppl end
up putting the weight back on if they don't change their eating habits.

There was a special on TV some time ago that showed some did put it back on.
It's major surgery with all the risks. 205 is not dangerously obese. Give
WW another try.

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 160 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height 5'6"
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"Debbie" wrote in message
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thx for the welcome, Gary. I've tried all kinds of diets too and WW is the
only one I've succeeded at. I guess I need to take the plunge and go to
meetings instead of at home alone trying to do it.

You just may get the support there you need to stick with it over the
long-haul. :-) Go for it.

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 160 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height 5'6"
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I think I need lots more research before I jump into it. I wish I would have
seen that special.

Yeah, 205 is manageable if I'd just do it. LOL. I'd hate to die from
surgery when I could have done it if I'd tried a little harder.

I just heard that dieters have a 95 % failure rate. Very discouraging. Then
I see that Gastric Bypass patients may lose lots in the beginning, but then
if they don't diet they could gain it all back over time. Gosh, neverending
battle.

Debbie



There was a special on TV some time ago that showed some did put it back
on. It's major surgery with all the risks. 205 is not dangerously obese.
Give WW another try.

LW
Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 160 lbs
Goal - 130lbs
Height 5'6"
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Debbie wrote:

I just heard that dieters have a 95 % failure rate. Very discouraging.

Well, you'd fail too, if you grudgingly decided Monday morning to start
a diet that meant a week of nothing but prune juice and iceberg lettuce
twice a day, and then the office had birthday cake that afternoon.

That's the problem with those statistics: while true, they include *all*
diet attempts (well, all reported, anyway, but that's enough). WW has a
*much* lower failure rate, and from what I recall, the only times there
have been failures are when people stopped following the program for
whatever reason. Well.. that's circular reasoning, I guess. My point
is that WW-followers don't fail because the *diet* is bad, they fail
because they stop doing it. Whereas with all those other crazy things
(not everything is crazy, but prune juice and lettuce was), the failure
is because that sort of diet is not sustainable. It's a weekend crash
diet, not a Diet as in 'standard food intake'.

So, I guess my point is, don't be too discouraged. Once you omit the
failures that are a result of unsustainable craziness, I suspect the
failure rate is more like a third of that (which'd be about 32%).
Sadly, unsustainable craziness is what most people assume that's what a
'diet' is, so that's what they try. If only they knew.

-Tay

415.4/333.6/170 lb