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  #21  
Old September 1st, 2006, 04:46 AM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Nunya B.
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Or spare us, really. I have yet to hear how the body can produce the fiber
and phytonutrients available in healthy whole grains. The carb itself is
only part of the picture.
--
the volleyballchick

"Gary G" wrote in message
...
Complex carbs are wonderful and I'm not sure why you would advise against
them...Maybe you can explain...GG
"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message
. com...

"nanner" wrote in message
...

"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message
I don't think there's any formula we can go by since we're all so
different and all live such different lifestyles. I consider myself
moderately active. I cannot eat over 1200c a day or I will not lose
weight. A more active or younger women may eat more and still lose. A
man would be different again. Keep in mind that carbs FATTEN humans as
well as animals so you may want to control your carb intake no matter
how many calories a day you consume.

yes, this i know. i was happy to find out that WW figured it out too LOL
that's why I finally came over to this side.



I think everyone is figuring it out. ) I myself was amazed to learn
we don't even require carbs to live. Our body can produce it's own from
protein. We get some in our low-carb veggies and fruit anyway.

The mystery can be unraveled by reading the many diet and weight loss
websites out there.

That's what i will be doing, this is very new type of thinking for me.



It was for me as well since I was never overweight until menopause and
thyroid problems hit me at the same time. Talk about a double whammy.

that's not the prob. i don't eat bread, will have moderate amounts of
whole wheat pasta, my carbier foods are plain oatmeal, corn, carrots,
onions and potatos, i eat loads of other veggies,


You can either cut out all these HIGH-carb foods mentioned above or limit
them severely. I eat cucumbers, celery, mushrooms, cabbage, broccoli,
cauliflower, string and wax beans, spinach, shard, turnip greens and
whatever LOW-carb veggie I find at the grocery store.

i don't eat fast food and i tended to
eat too much fatty meat vs lean meat (dark meat from poultry, lamb,
beef) i eat pretty well so it's hard to tweak. cheese is out for now - i
can't deal with low fat cheese


Dump the corn, pasta, oatmeal etc. These are all HIGH-carb foods that
you don't need if you're looking to lose weight.

Eat a lot of low-carb veggies and LEAN meats.


i am also eating alot of fruit, i've always had a sweet tooth and
hopefully i won't be sabotaging myself with the fruit but i see it as a
much better alternative to sugary treats (ice cream being the major
problem here)


Fruit is high in sugars (carbs). I would limit fruit to once a day.

your method seems rather random. we already know "eat less, excercise
more" works


In the end - that's what it really comes down to. But first you would
do well to have some idea of how many calories it takes *YOU* to lose
weight, then stay under that amount = weight loss! The more you get
out and walk the fater you will burn the fat.


i will ive and learn i suppose. tracking will help. i havea morning and
evening excercise routine and maybe after DS starts kindergarten next
week i wi'' be able to get out walking with DD.


Walk her to school if possible - then KEEP GOING!!! ) Wal-Mart
sells a pedometer for around $4 that's excellent and resets with the push
of a button. When I started walking again after my accident I started
with like 1/3 mile and worked up both in distance, grade and speed.

LW
Re-Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 155 lbs
Goal - 130 lbs
Height: 5'6" Female. Age: 61
Don't worry about what people think,
they don't do it very often.
===================================






  #22  
Old September 1st, 2006, 01:11 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
nanner
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"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message
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"nanner" wrote in message
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from years of experience with low carb diets (thus my calorie ignorance)
i know that the best plan is to shop around the edge of the supermarket,
that's where they keep all the real food )

produce, meat, fish, dairy, eggs


There you go!

they put all the creepy stuff in the middle. luckily i don't buy too much
in the middle. graham crackers for the kids, cannned 99% fat free broth,
peanut butter, canned tomatoes & pasta, rice for DH, frozen veggies...
i've always been majorly turned off by those 'crock pot delite" type
"hamburger helper" sorta creations (eep) Those must be soooo bad for
people!


Yes, very high in carbs, fats and salt. Guaranteed to make all but ditch
diggers gain weight.


not to mention wierd chemicals, additives and preservatives


LW
Re-Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 155 lbs
Goal - 130 lbs
Height: 5'6" Female. Age: 61
Don't worry about what people think,
they don't do it very often.
===================================



  #23  
Old September 1st, 2006, 01:24 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
nanner
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"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message
. com...

"nanner" wrote in message
...

"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message
I don't think there's any formula we can go by since we're all so
different and all live such different lifestyles. I consider myself
moderately active. I cannot eat over 1200c a day or I will not lose
weight. A more active or younger women may eat more and still lose. A
man would be different again. Keep in mind that carbs FATTEN humans as
well as animals so you may want to control your carb intake no matter
how many calories a day you consume.


yes, this i know. i was happy to find out that WW figured it out too LOL
that's why I finally came over to this side.



I think everyone is figuring it out. ) I myself was amazed to learn
we don't even require carbs to live. Our body can produce it's own from
protein. We get some in our low-carb veggies and fruit anyway.

The mystery can be unraveled by reading the many diet and weight loss
websites out there.


That's what i will be doing, this is very new type of thinking for me.



It was for me as well since I was never overweight until menopause and
thyroid problems hit me at the same time. Talk about a double whammy.


yikes

that's not the prob. i don't eat bread, will have moderate amounts of
whole wheat pasta, my carbier foods are plain oatmeal, corn, carrots,
onions and potatos, i eat loads of other veggies,


You can either cut out all these HIGH-carb foods mentioned above or limit
them severely. I eat cucumbers, celery, mushrooms, cabbage, broccoli,
cauliflower, string and wax beans, spinach, shard, turnip greens and
whatever LOW-carb veggie I find at the grocery store.

i don't eat fast food and i tended to
eat too much fatty meat vs lean meat (dark meat from poultry, lamb, beef)
i eat pretty well so it's hard to tweak. cheese is out for now - i can't
deal with low fat cheese


Dump the corn, pasta, oatmeal etc. These are all HIGH-carb foods that you
don't need if you're looking to lose weight.


i am not eating tons of these but i have added them to my diet (i was a long
time Atkins dieter (since '97) and now I am here, on WW, and these foods are
part of the Core plan. The plan says they can be eaten at one meal a day. I
am hoping that by eating a more balanced diet that includes more fruit and
some of these starchier veggies I will beat the "LC/binge/LC/binge"
rollercoaster from hell that I have been on this past year (putting back on
18 lbs ). To my understanding (from LC land) you can't do Low Fat and Low
Carb.


Eat a lot of low-carb veggies and LEAN meats.


i am also eating alot of fruit, i've always had a sweet tooth and
hopefully i won't be sabotaging myself with the fruit but i see it as a
much better alternative to sugary treats (ice cream being the major
problem here)


Fruit is high in sugars (carbs). I would limit fruit to once a day.


I find that i am able to control my sugar craving and not binge of bad food
by eating fruit. It's only been a week but it's been a much healthier food
week than i have had in months.

It's allowed on Core and since I am new to the plan I will trust it and see
what happens - if i don't lose weight this way I will cut back on the fruit
and higher carb veggies. I've seen your name at asd-lc and you know the
mantra over there, "Read the book" so I am going to go with the plan before
I reinvent it.


your method seems rather random. we already know "eat less, excercise
more" works


In the end - that's what it really comes down to. But first you would
do well to have some idea of how many calories it takes *YOU* to lose
weight, then stay under that amount = weight loss! The more you get out
and walk the fater you will burn the fat.


i will ive and learn i suppose. tracking will help. i havea morning and
evening excercise routine and maybe after DS starts kindergarten next
week i wi'' be able to get out walking with DD.


Walk her to school if possible - then KEEP GOING!!! ) Wal-Mart sells
a pedometer for around $4 that's excellent


i have to go there today anyway - maybe i will look for it, thanks

and resets with the push of a button. When I started walking again after
my accident I started with like 1/3 mile and worked up both in distance,
grade and speed.


that's fantastic. i don't think i will be able to walk her to school but I
may be able to get a walk in while they are both in school ( that will be
only 2x a week but better than nothing)


LW
Re-Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 155 lbs
Goal - 130 lbs
Height: 5'6" Female. Age: 61
Don't worry about what people think,
they don't do it very often.
===================================




  #24  
Old September 1st, 2006, 02:30 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
tanukiki
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Posts: 134
Default calories?

"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
on core I count the 35 wpa's and that is it, use the book to determine
your
portions, Lee
nanner wrote in message
...
Forgot to mention i am doing Core



Right on Lee. I am loving Core due to the lower amount of counting it
requires. Much less stressful for me right now.

--

Tanukiki (mom of 2 wonderful boys)

Pre-baby #2 weight 239 (in 2004)
Started WW 01/21/06
Reached 10% 03/18/06
205.4/179.4/150 -- currently about 186 (only doing prog half-a** b/w
04/05-08/12/06)

--
Leader of the Cult of Worshippers of BiPolar Long-Haired Sexy Anime Guys
with Swords


  #25  
Old September 1st, 2006, 02:49 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Gary G
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Posts: 443
Default calories?

I also was a Atkins dieter and I must admit at first it was very
successful...But now with WW I can eat anything in moderation...I also do
core...It's great to be able to enjoy oatmeal for breakfast maybe a grain or
potato at dinner...Rather than low carb it is now smart carbs...Carbs are
not evil...Really...GG
"nanner" wrote in message
...

"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message
. com...

"nanner" wrote in message
...

"Lá~ká~ Wáná" wrote in message
I don't think there's any formula we can go by since we're all so
different and all live such different lifestyles. I consider myself
moderately active. I cannot eat over 1200c a day or I will not lose
weight. A more active or younger women may eat more and still lose. A
man would be different again. Keep in mind that carbs FATTEN humans as
well as animals so you may want to control your carb intake no matter
how many calories a day you consume.

yes, this i know. i was happy to find out that WW figured it out too LOL
that's why I finally came over to this side.



I think everyone is figuring it out. ) I myself was amazed to learn
we don't even require carbs to live. Our body can produce it's own from
protein. We get some in our low-carb veggies and fruit anyway.

The mystery can be unraveled by reading the many diet and weight loss
websites out there.

That's what i will be doing, this is very new type of thinking for me.



It was for me as well since I was never overweight until menopause and
thyroid problems hit me at the same time. Talk about a double whammy.


yikes

that's not the prob. i don't eat bread, will have moderate amounts of
whole wheat pasta, my carbier foods are plain oatmeal, corn, carrots,
onions and potatos, i eat loads of other veggies,


You can either cut out all these HIGH-carb foods mentioned above or limit
them severely. I eat cucumbers, celery, mushrooms, cabbage, broccoli,
cauliflower, string and wax beans, spinach, shard, turnip greens and
whatever LOW-carb veggie I find at the grocery store.

i don't eat fast food and i tended to
eat too much fatty meat vs lean meat (dark meat from poultry, lamb,
beef) i eat pretty well so it's hard to tweak. cheese is out for now - i
can't deal with low fat cheese


Dump the corn, pasta, oatmeal etc. These are all HIGH-carb foods that
you don't need if you're looking to lose weight.


i am not eating tons of these but i have added them to my diet (i was a
long time Atkins dieter (since '97) and now I am here, on WW, and these
foods are part of the Core plan. The plan says they can be eaten at one
meal a day. I am hoping that by eating a more balanced diet that includes
more fruit and some of these starchier veggies I will beat the
"LC/binge/LC/binge" rollercoaster from hell that I have been on this past
year (putting back on 18 lbs ). To my understanding (from LC land) you
can't do Low Fat and Low Carb.


Eat a lot of low-carb veggies and LEAN meats.


i am also eating alot of fruit, i've always had a sweet tooth and
hopefully i won't be sabotaging myself with the fruit but i see it as a
much better alternative to sugary treats (ice cream being the major
problem here)


Fruit is high in sugars (carbs). I would limit fruit to once a day.


I find that i am able to control my sugar craving and not binge of bad
food by eating fruit. It's only been a week but it's been a much healthier
food week than i have had in months.

It's allowed on Core and since I am new to the plan I will trust it and
see what happens - if i don't lose weight this way I will cut back on the
fruit and higher carb veggies. I've seen your name at asd-lc and you know
the mantra over there, "Read the book" so I am going to go with the plan
before I reinvent it.


your method seems rather random. we already know "eat less, excercise
more" works


In the end - that's what it really comes down to. But first you would
do well to have some idea of how many calories it takes *YOU* to lose
weight, then stay under that amount = weight loss! The more you get
out and walk the fater you will burn the fat.


i will ive and learn i suppose. tracking will help. i havea morning and
evening excercise routine and maybe after DS starts kindergarten next
week i wi'' be able to get out walking with DD.


Walk her to school if possible - then KEEP GOING!!! ) Wal-Mart
sells a pedometer for around $4 that's excellent


i have to go there today anyway - maybe i will look for it, thanks

and resets with the push of a button. When I started walking again after
my accident I started with like 1/3 mile and worked up both in distance,
grade and speed.


that's fantastic. i don't think i will be able to walk her to school but I
may be able to get a walk in while they are both in school ( that will be
only 2x a week but better than nothing)


LW
Re-Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 155 lbs
Goal - 130 lbs
Height: 5'6" Female. Age: 61
Don't worry about what people think,
they don't do it very often.
===================================






  #26  
Old September 1st, 2006, 03:43 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
nanner
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Posts: 228
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"Gary G" wrote in message
...
I also was a Atkins dieter and I must admit at first it was very
successful...But now with WW I can eat anything in moderation...I also do
core...It's great to be able to enjoy oatmeal for breakfast maybe a grain
or potato at dinner...Rather than low carb it is now smart carbs...Carbs
are not evil...Really...GG


LC definitely worked for me. I quit smoking, caffiene and sugar together,
lost 30 lbs and maintained for 2 years. I no longer had migraines, had my
anxiety and panic under control too. Had kids, got fat, lost 40 lbs on LC,
maintained for a while then found i was constantly battling myself. Cravings
would lead to binging and i couldn't keep it going. So after a year of
on-again-off-again LC/sugar binging and feeling awful about myself and
regaining 18 lbs I've decided to try something different.

Most carbs are not evil but I can't say the same for refined sugar and high
fructose corn syrup. I think those may, in fact, be evil!!


  #27  
Old September 1st, 2006, 04:11 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Stormmee
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I do prefer flex because of the "control" factor but because of all that is
going on core is less stressful, and more healthy so I figure when I go back
to flex I will be eating better and therefore will make up whatever I am not
losing now, Lee
tanukiki wrote in message
news:NBWJg.2$xh4.1@trnddc04...
"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
on core I count the 35 wpa's and that is it, use the book to determine
your
portions, Lee
nanner wrote in message
...
Forgot to mention i am doing Core



Right on Lee. I am loving Core due to the lower amount of counting it
requires. Much less stressful for me right now.

--

Tanukiki (mom of 2 wonderful boys)

Pre-baby #2 weight 239 (in 2004)
Started WW 01/21/06
Reached 10% 03/18/06
205.4/179.4/150 -- currently about 186 (only doing prog half-a** b/w
04/05-08/12/06)

--
Leader of the Cult of Worshippers of BiPolar Long-Haired Sexy Anime Guys
with Swords




  #28  
Old September 1st, 2006, 05:11 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
tanukiki
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Posts: 134
Default calories?

"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
I do prefer flex because of the "control" factor but because of all that is
going on core is less stressful, and more healthy so I figure when I go
back
to flex I will be eating better and therefore will make up whatever I am
not
losing now, Lee
tanukiki wrote in message
news:NBWJg.2$xh4.1@trnddc04...
"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
on core I count the 35 wpa's and that is it, use the book to determine
your
portions, Lee
nanner wrote in message
...
Forgot to mention i am doing Core



Right on Lee. I am loving Core due to the lower amount of counting it
requires. Much less stressful for me right now.

--

Tanukiki (mom of 2 wonderful boys)



I agree with you 100%. That is what is great about WW though- the
flexibility b/w the 2 plans.

--

Tanukiki (mom of 2 wonderful boys)

Pre-baby #2 weight 239 (in 2004)
Started WW 01/21/06
Reached 10% 03/18/06
205.4/179.4/150 -- currently about 186 (only doing prog half-a** b/w
04/05-08/12/06)

--
Leader of the Cult of Worshippers of BiPolar Long-Haired Sexy Anime Guys
with Swords


  #29  
Old September 1st, 2006, 05:19 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Stormmee
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Posts: 2,513
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truth is I am very careful about my wpa's so the reason I am not losing as
well as some others on core is that I tend to not eat enough, odd but I know
at least what I am eating is healthy, tomorrow is the ast day of my week and
I have eaten 3 points of non core food, and on that day I earned 2 activity
points, so as you can see, little activity but otherwise good food. Lee
tanukiki wrote in message
news:qYYJg.33$I71.20@trnddc01...
"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
I do prefer flex because of the "control" factor but because of all that

is
going on core is less stressful, and more healthy so I figure when I go
back
to flex I will be eating better and therefore will make up whatever I am
not
losing now, Lee
tanukiki wrote in message
news:NBWJg.2$xh4.1@trnddc04...
"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
on core I count the 35 wpa's and that is it, use the book to

determine
your
portions, Lee
nanner wrote in message
...
Forgot to mention i am doing Core


Right on Lee. I am loving Core due to the lower amount of counting it
requires. Much less stressful for me right now.

--

Tanukiki (mom of 2 wonderful boys)



I agree with you 100%. That is what is great about WW though- the
flexibility b/w the 2 plans.

--

Tanukiki (mom of 2 wonderful boys)

Pre-baby #2 weight 239 (in 2004)
Started WW 01/21/06
Reached 10% 03/18/06
205.4/179.4/150 -- currently about 186 (only doing prog half-a** b/w
04/05-08/12/06)

--
Leader of the Cult of Worshippers of BiPolar Long-Haired Sexy Anime Guys
with Swords




  #30  
Old September 1st, 2006, 05:37 PM posted to alt.support.diet.weightwatchers
Lá~ká~ Wáná
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Posts: 521
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"Gary G" wrote in message
...
Complex carbs are wonderful and I'm not sure why you would advise against


Because they can run 100c each. Having several pieces of fruit a day and
easily add up to 300c a day. That's the same as breakfast or lunch.
Fruit will still raise your insulin levels which encourages your body to
store fat. I myself eat one apple, pear or small bananas a day. I limit my
carbs. I've noticed in the past that the less carbs, any carbs that I eat,
the faster I lose weight. I'm stuck at 155/156 now so will drop my carbs
again.........

LW
Re-Start - 7/5/06 - 170lbs
Today - 155 lbs
Goal - 130 lbs
Height: 5'6" Female. Age: 61
Don't worry about what people think,
they don't do it very often.
===================================

 




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